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Eug

join:2007-04-14
Toronto, ON

reply to yoyomhz

Re: Farmers Market food may one day kill you

said by kim:

I've done a lot of canning of tomato sauce and never had a jar spoil, ever. I do know some Italians who expect bad jars every year and after watching them can I was not surprised at all.

Well, you just proved my point. Not everyone is well trained in the arts of food preparation. This shouldn't be surprising. While I do understand some of the risks, I myself don't know all the tips and tricks of how to avoid those risks, and similarly I don't necessarily expect some random woman making apricot chutney for her new hobby as a farmers market vendor in her retirement to know either.

said by A Lurker:

Those who enjoy the jam - just check that they aren't using pectin. If they are you might as well buy the store bought stuff. Real jam should have fruit and sugar... maybe a little lemon juice for bright coloured ones (such as apricot). I still have home-grown vac sealed fruit for jam in the freezer. I ran out of jars and had way too much other stuff to do when the fruit season was at its peak.

I prefer jam with some pectin but less sugar than is usually used.

My GF makes chili jam, of varying heats. I eat the mild, and she eats the super spicy stuff. Most recipes call for maybe 5-10 jalapenos per batch, she uses 10 scotch bonnets per batch for the mild, and up to 35 scotch bonnets per batch for the hot (which I think is crazy).

We give them to our friends, and they love it so much they say we should sell them. I tell them they're best consumed sooner rather than later. We've never had one go bad, but I worry.

said by yoyomhz:

Meat? I don't think they sell meat at farmers markets.

They do all over the place.
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Stewy
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join:2007-12-12
Kitchener, ON

reply to Robrr

said by Robrr:

thats some serious overreaction to blame Weston for selling Maple Leaf Foods products.

I'm not blaming Weston for that, I'm looking at the hypocrisy of it all, look at it this way, how many people are getting sick and die by specifically buying reprocessed high carb, high sugar products from Canada's largest food processing and distribution company as compared to farmers markets or organic farms ?, where you can't even buy some of those products.

People have been eating produce from farms for thousands of years, even if someone in this modern age would die from eating something from a "farm", think about it scientifically and mathematically what would the percentage of death ratio numbers be between the massive food processing and distribution and Farm be ?

said by urbanriot:

Most of my Toronto friends stick with Plan B (organic farms). I don't know if that's within the same context of this Weston guy's comments, since he was specifically attacking markets.

Of course it is, this is what it's all about they are cutting into their profits, this has nothing to do with your health or safety it's all about the safety of their profits through fear mongering.

said by dirtyjeffer:

Sobeys is Canada's second largest food chain...that's like saying you are going to boycott Corporate greed and no longer get service through Bell and are going to Rogers instead.

Just like Rogers and Bell when you don't have a choice you have to choose between the lesser of two evils. Sobey's may be a tad more expensive but at least they have more quality and the staff there are much more pleasant for some reason.
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jaberi

join:2010-08-13

Galen Weston slammed for offhand quip on farmers markets

"I'm just saying that to be dramatic though," he quickly added.

»ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybre···861.html


snafu
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join:2004-02-16
Mississauga

reply to Stewy

Re: Farmers Market food may one day kill you

some of the best cheese, meat and veggies I've had came from farmers markets

and one question: If they don't need expensive applications of pesticides, why are the organic fruits and vegetables more expensive ??


Kardinal
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reply to Stewy
We have cheeses and all sorts of meats (elk, yak, bison, beef, lamb, etc) at my local farmer's market, as well as two or three boutique bakeries, spice/seasoning stands and the usual vegetable and fruit vendors. There are regular inspections of the stands and the products they have for sale.
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jfmezei
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join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
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reply to snafu

said by snafu:

and one question: If they don't need expensive applications of pesticides, why are the organic fruits and vegetables more expensive ??


Because those products are marketed at people who are richer and willing to pay more for fruits/vegies without pesticides.

In fairness, depending on farming techniques, yields may be lower without pesticides so the cost per fruit is higher since more fruits will have to be sold for juice instead of real fruits.



A Lurker
Premium
join:2007-10-27
Burlington, ON

reply to Black Box

said by Black Box:

Avoid rare steaks. If it is still pink on the inside, it's not cooked yet.

Ack, a steak that isn't rare is not worth eating.


yoyomhz

join:2003-02-15
Beverly Hills, CA

reply to snafu

said by snafu:

...and one question: If they don't need expensive applications of pesticides, why are the organic fruits and vegetables more expensive ??

Imagine this: Ten Helicopters and airplanes dumping 'expensive' agent orange on ten thousand acres in Vietnam, to kill all the leaves on the trees in ten days, compared to 10,000 labourers @ $10.00/hr, pulling the leaves off those trees by hand, and each labourer doing one acre in a month.

What would cost more?

What would be better for the people's health?

LondonOntGuy

join:2004-05-12
London, ON
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reply to Stewy
I wish I could say I'll never shop at a Loblaw's brand store ever again, but that's not realistic. I'll only go there out of convenience for now on. For now on, I'll go to Food Basics or Metro. Price Chopper is okay, but they're too far out of my way to be of any use to me.



J E F F
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join:2004-04-01
Kitchener, ON
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reply to bt
Because, as we all know, no one has ever gotten sick from supermarket food.....

He said it because the Farmers Market is competition. It's a growing competition. Vendors, or actual farmers, can make more profit selling food there than selling to National Grocers.

Looked, I worked with Weston 15 years ago. He is someone that can make your life miserable. His only concern is money...not your health. If anyone knew the shit that goes on there, you'd all be sending flowers and thank-you notes to your MP's in Ottawa.
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A Lurker
Premium
join:2007-10-27
Burlington, ON

reply to Stewy
Just an interesting recall....

»ca.news.yahoo.com/national-agenc···243.html

"The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is warning people not to consume food from certain packages of Country Morning Beef Burgers and No Name Club Pack Beef Steakettes because of fears they may be contaminated with E. coli."



dirtyjeffer
Anons on ignore.
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join:2002-02-21
London, ON

said by A Lurker:

Just an interesting recall....

»ca.news.yahoo.com/national-agenc···243.html

"The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is warning people not to consume food from certain packages of Country Morning Beef Burgers and No Name Club Pack Beef Steakettes because of fears they may be contaminated with E. coli."

yea, but i think Weston's point was places like Loblaws (and other large chains) go through rigorous testing procedures, so that is why this stuff gets caught...he was simply saying that farmers market stuff should be treated equally, and honestly, he is right.
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urbanriot
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join:2004-10-18
Canada
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said by dirtyjeffer:

he was simply saying that farmers market stuff should be treated equally, and honestly, he is right.

Is that what he was saying?

So his chain is also going to "kill some people?"

I'm pretty sure he wasn't saying that at all.

Robrr

join:2008-04-19
Mississauga, ON
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said by urbanriot:

said by dirtyjeffer:

he was simply saying that farmers market stuff should be treated equally, and honestly, he is right.

Is that what he was saying?

So his chain is also going to "kill some people?"

I'm pretty sure he wasn't saying that at all.

If people cook like their burgers like they are suppose to, this is a non issue.

Unfortunately people think burgers cooked to medium is acceptable which it isn't.


dirtyjeffer
Anons on ignore.
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join:2002-02-21
London, ON

reply to urbanriot
issues with food will happen...it's a fact of life when you are dealing with it...his point was, farmers market vendors and suppliers aren't as rigorously tested and kept an eye on as the big chains...stuff happens at farmers markets, you just don't hear about it...that was his point.
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LondonOntGuy

join:2004-05-12
London, ON

reply to Stewy
Only time I ever got sick from eating vegetables was from a Loblaws store. Both times it was one of those 'fresh' salads they have.

Needless to say, I don't buy store made salads anymore.

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