Topic 'Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)' in forum 'Verizon FIOS TV' - dslreports.com

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:37:59 EDT

matcarl posted :

said by skohly:

Just create (2) overflow channels that show nothing but a screen when not in use saying FIOS overflow sports channel, similar to what they do with The NFL Redzone channel and the College football and basketball channel. When no games it's not using any HD bandwidth. What is the problem with that?

I haven't tuned to Red Zone in awhile, but I believe the splash screen was still being broadcast in HD from the provider, so it's still taking up the bandwidth and even if it wasn't, it still has to all be accounted for in case the channel is running at the same time as another. These few part-time channels aren't going to make a huge difference anyway in the grand scheme of things.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:29:34 EDT

nascar posted : Thanks!

said by nycdave:

said by nascar:

Dave... Any word on getting all 4 in HD? :D

said by nycdave:

Have you heard of overflow channels? MSG2 and MSG+2 are overflow channels - DTV carries them, as do some other MSO's....

Check the MSG SD channels starting at 78, and you will see them listed there.....

Still 'in the pipeline' for sometime this year.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:24:01 EDT

skohly posted :

said by UnnDunn:

said by nyrmetros:

Why can't verizon turn a channel on and off as needed??

Because tons of things will break if then turn on/off channels with the frequency and spontenaety they would need.

At a minimum, if they turned off the overflows, the guide data for them would be deleted and you would not be able to schedule recordings in advance. It would also have to update authentication tables and encryption keys for all customers. Favorites lists, parental control settings and all sorts of other stuff would be disrupted.

And even if Verizon engineered it so that wouldn't be a problem on FiOS boxes, it would still affect those with TiVos or Windows Media Center CableCARD users, who get their guide data from a different service which does not update nearly as quickly. CableCARD users would be re-scanning all the time, and their CableCARDs would be constantly taking new encryption data, which increases the chance of failure.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:08:29 EDT

nycdave posted :

said by nascar:

Dave... Any word on getting all 4 in HD? :D

said by nycdave:

Still 'in the pipeline' for sometime this year.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:44:51 EDT

UnnDunn posted :

said by nyrmetros:

Why can't verizon turn a channel on and off as needed??

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:42:26 EDT

Jackarino posted : I'm just happy to have MSG in HD

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:27:05 EDT

nascar posted : Dave... Any word on getting all 4 in HD? :D

said by nycdave:

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:43:08 EDT

nyrmetros posted :

said by Greg2600:

said by 45612019:

What the hell is the point of MSG2HD? I just examined its programming for the next few days and it appears to be an identical copy of MSGHD.

This is an unprecedented waste of space. Even the redundant "west" feeds aren't as pointless as this.

Verizon's stupidity never ceases to amaze me. :uhh:

The problem is that Verizon is not capable of turning on a channel and turning it back off. Look at NFL RedZone, or the ESPN College channel. They only run during a specific time, and the rest of the week the channel's QAM spot is taken.

Why can't verizon turn a channel on and off as needed?? Very glad that fios has added the msg overflow channels in HD!

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:57:20 EDT

Greg2600 posted :

said by 45612019:

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:47:39 EDT

nycdave posted : Have you heard of overflow channels? MSG2 and MSG+2 are overflow channels - DTV carries them, as do some other MSO's....

Check the MSG SD channels starting at 78, and you will see them listed there.....

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:35:21 EDT

45612019 posted : What the hell is the point of MSG2HD? I just examined its programming for the next few days and it appears to be an identical copy of MSGHD.

This is an unprecedented waste of space. Even the redundant "west" feeds aren't as pointless as this.

Verizon's stupidity never ceases to amaze me. :uhh:

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:11:36 EDT

MuDvAyNe posted : Well it is about the addition of HD channels. I was stuck watching the Rangers Broadcast while the Devils was in SD. :uhh:

Wheres MSG+ 2 HD when MSG 2 HD was added last week. You are telling me FiOS which supposedly saved room for these channels cannot fit +2 now :D
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Mets, Cowboys, Devils

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 07:20:22 EDT

nascar posted : This thread is about the addition of HD channels and not the content or results of what is on the channel. If it now is, it should be promptly closed.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:37:14 EDT

MuDvAyNe posted :

said by nyrmetros:

said by MuDvAyNe:

Guess no MSG + 2 HD. I am stuck watching the Rangers broadcast!!

better broadcast. crap game.

I will give you the better broadcast but the game was not crap at all. I do miss Doc calling the devils.
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Mets, Cowboys, Devils

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:21:50 EDT

nysports4evr posted : Painful ending.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:28:47 EDT

nyrmetros posted :

said by MuDvAyNe:

Guess no MSG + 2 HD. I am stuck watching the Rangers broadcast!!

better broadcast. crap game.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:04:05 EDT

bohratom posted :

said by MuDvAyNe:

Guess no MSG + 2 HD. I am stuck watching the Rangers broadcast!!

Ditto.... :mad:

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:51:49 EDT

MuDvAyNe posted : Guess no MSG + 2 HD. I am stuck watching the Rangers broadcast!!
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Mets, Cowboys, Devils

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Thu, 02 Feb 2012 09:16:51 EDT

tnsprin posted : In NY (LI)

MSG 78 HD 578
msg2 79 HD 579
MSG+ 80 HD 580
MSG+2 81 No HD yet

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:46:30 EDT

robjlevin posted : Those names are meaningless, really. What I can tell you is that every game on the overflows has been broadcast in HD even if there were two overflow games at the same time.

The other night MSG, MSG+, MSG Buffalo, MSG2 and MSG+2 were all active with HD broadcasts. DirecTV had every one of them.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:32:37 EDT

icemannyr1 posted : Besides being an overflow for the teams MSG broadcasts sometimes FOX Sports Network programming is shown on MSG+2 when there is a local game on MSG+.

Any word if MSG+2 will be added? Is FiOS waiting for the next event to be broadcast on MSG+2?

Tue., Feb. 7 New Jersey at NY Rangers 7:00 p.m. MSG+2

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:19:52 EDT

TitusTroy posted : it's simple- NBA is way more popular then the NHL...Knicks will (and should) get priority over the Rangers...if the NHL was more popular then the opposite would happen

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:02:40 EDT

nysports4evr posted :

said by nyrmetros:

So I can now watch the Rangers in HD when the stupid knicks get msg proper for no deserved reason....

Even an under performing Knicks team will get higher TV ratings than the Rangers, doing well. I don't really care any more now that they're both in HD.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:06:16 EDT

nyrmetros posted : So I can now watch the Rangers in HD when the stupid knicks get msg proper for no deserved reason....

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:33:00 EDT

nascar posted : Resubmitted this. I know they are working on it.

said by Steely:

No HD changes in VHO8 Mercer County...

MSG HD 579
MSG+ HD 581

MSG 79, pressing "c" resolves to MSG HD 579
MSG2 80, pressing "c" resolves to MSG HD 579
MSG+ 81, pressing "c" resolves to MSG+ HD 581
MSG2+ 82, pressing "c" resolves to MSG+ HD 581

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:59:36 EDT

Steely posted : No HD changes in VHO8 Mercer County...

MSG HD 579
MSG+ HD 581

MSG 79, pressing "c" resolves to MSG HD 579
MSG2 80, pressing "c" resolves to MSG HD 579
MSG+ 81, pressing "c" resolves to MSG+ HD 581
MSG2+ 82, pressing "c" resolves to MSG+ HD 581

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:54:34 EDT

nycdave posted :

said by TitusTroy:

I wish Verizon would have used that space for MSG2 HD and added another HD channel...I'm not a hockey fan so the overflow games don't matter to me because I'm mainly interested in the Knicks who are always on MSG

I mean if MSG2 is showing the exact same content as MSG HD for 20 hours a day then what's the real point?...the only time it matters is those 3-4 hours when a new game is shown...this is worse then the West Coast feeds of HBO, Cinemax etc...at least those have a 3 hour delay...with MSG it's the exact same content...surely Verizon could have added Cartoon Network or BBC-America HD instead of MSG2

National channel adds are not the same as regional/local channel/RSN adds....

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:51:12 EDT

Greg2600 posted : That space was already allocated for local programming in HD. It doesn't count on their nationwide HD space.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:37:20 EDT

TitusTroy posted : I wish Verizon would have used that space for MSG2 HD and added another HD channel...I'm not a hockey fan so the overflow games don't matter to me because I'm mainly interested in the Knicks who are always on MSG

I mean if MSG2 is showing the exact same content as MSG HD for 20 hours a day then what's the real point?...the only time it matters is those 3-4 hours when a new game is shown...this is worse then the West Coast feeds of HBO, Cinemax etc...at least those have a 3 hour delay...with MSG it's the exact same content...surely Verizon could have added Cartoon Network or BBC-America HD instead of MSG2

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:09:52 EDT

nascar posted : The "Press C" issue should be resolved or get resolved soon too.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:11:59 EDT

TitusTroy posted : Verizon is stepping up to the plate in 2012...the only point of MSG 2 is for overflow games so it's good to see it now available on FiOS

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:05:58 EDT

matcarl posted : I know nysports, but that was the only way Verizon could set it up. Cablevision was not happy with that setup when Verizon first started carrying the SD channels.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:58:36 EDT

nysports4evr posted :

said by matcarl:

said by nysports4evr:

said by Greg2600:

I suppose they're only going to activate it if there's a game?

The channel is only active when there's a game regardless of provider, MSG and MSG+ are the only 24/7 channels.

Verizon carries a simulcast of the main channel when the extra game is not on, so it really is on 24/7 on Verizon.

Interesting. On Cablevision/iO and DirecTV the channels are only active for pre-game, gametime, and post-game.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:57:15 EDT

jr461 posted : 579 is up and running with guide data in VHO7.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:26:52 EDT

matcarl posted :

said by nysports4evr:

said by Greg2600:

I suppose they're only going to activate it if there's a game?

The channel is only active when there's a game regardless of provider, MSG and MSG+ are the only 24/7 channels.

Verizon carries a simulcast of the main channel when the extra game is not on, so it really is on 24/7 on Verizon.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:17:46 EDT

nysports4evr posted :

said by Greg2600:

I suppose they're only going to activate it if there's a game?

The channel is only active when there's a game regardless of provider, MSG and MSG+ are the only 24/7 channels.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:56:19 EDT

matcarl posted :

said by nascar:

What do you mean? Also working on getting guide data.

said by matcarl:

MSG SD & HD are all screwed up this morning. Cablevision's way of revenge?

Guide data is there. What I meant by all messed up is the signal is F'd up. The screen was green and full of static.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:17:54 EDT

nascar posted : What do you mean? Also working on getting guide data.

said by matcarl:

MSG SD & HD are all screwed up this morning. Cablevision's way of revenge?

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:56:42 EDT

matcarl posted : MSG SD & HD are all screwed up this morning. Cablevision's way of revenge?

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Wed, 01 Feb 2012 02:48:47 EDT

MuDvAyNe posted : It is still live and almost 3am... Hopefully this means it will be showing up in the guide soon.
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Mets, Cowboys, Devils

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:50:44 EDT

bohratom posted : Nice, active in VHO7 at least for tonight...

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:28:28 EDT

FiosTV1080I posted : Hopefully soon, bein they added ch. 579 today , i'm thinkin sometime in Feb 2012, see what happens!

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:09:21 EDT

Greg2600 posted : I suppose they're only going to activate it if there's a game?

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:36:38 EDT

nyrmetros posted :

said by andyboy:

Beat me to the punch. Very cool. Was resigned to choosing between devils announcers or SD.

Don't see 579 at all...

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:34:55 EDT

nysports4evr posted : OT: This game is going to kill me.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:29:19 EDT

MuDvAyNe posted : 581 doesn't work. No love for the Islander fans
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Mets, Cowboys, Devils

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:28:12 EDT

anon posted : Is this permanent? :)

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:21:29 EDT

nysports4evr posted : I'm on DirecTV myself but a friend of mine on FiOS told me about this. Great news for FiOS customers! Didn't expect them to get the alternate channels this quickly.

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:20:17 EDT

skohly posted :

said by nysports4evr:

Anyone else notice the Rangers (on MSG 2) are on HD on 579?

YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!! I have it

Re: [HD] MSG2/MSG2PLUS HD (NYC)

Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:20:10 EDT

andyboy posted : Beat me to the punch. Very cool. Was resigned to choosing between devils announcers or SD.