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ntba

join:2012-02-08

[DSL] Question for people who have switched from Sympatico.

Hello fellow savvyteks, just joined to pose something curious that has been on my mind and figured after switching to teksavvy I might as well ask now!

For those of you here who have switched from Bell Sympatico High Speed service to Teksavvy DSL....

I've been with bell for my DSL needs since approx 2002,2003(?) and despite all the numerous problems people have had with bell, my ride was quite pleasant.

From that time up until last month, bell has been providing me my original service contract from when I first joined, that is, I've been getting 6000/800 since they switched and best of all NO CAP.

I'm curious if anyone else has had this? They most deff do not offer anything of the sort anymore but I was wondering if anyone knows why I was still kept on that plan and never charged extra for bandwidth usage? Was it some contractual obligation or just a fluke?

The reason for the switch was not the service, but the price, one thing they did do was keep increasing the price until I folded and left, I started out paying $45/month and as of a few years back ever so slowly crept the price up to roughly $80 a month. I stuck with it only because of the massive amounts of internet TV that is being pumped into my house where I can easily do 300GB+/month. When I saw teksavvy offered the same speed and no caps for my original price, I jumped ship and haven't look back.

Any thoughts?

PS. Teksavvy has been the smoothest and most hassle free transition I've ever done, a great service so far!


Crowbar1

join:2009-06-23
Toronto , ON

BHELL forced you off unlimited with their relentless price increases . There is no more unlimited with HBELL AFAIK ...



scruffy

join:2007-07-24
Canada

said by Crowbar1:

There is no more unlimited with HBELL AFAIK ...

You could get grandfathered on an existing unlimited plan, but basically you can't make any changes to your account or if you "abused" your downloads, they would force you onto a newer capped plan.

My neighbor was grandfathered on a 6mb unlimited plan, but iirc they got "forced" onto a new plan around the time the new Fibe plans came out.


EdT

join:2009-06-12
Saint-Laurent, QC

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reply to ntba
You most likely were on their their grandfather plan that had unlimited cap which was their original HSE package since 2000. They tried to ween people off this plan by offering them a faster profile at a lower cost for 12 months, little did they know this was BHell plan all along to get people off this old plan and once their 12 months was over, the real cost of their newer profile would sink in.

Little did I know was that you had to call BHell every year to negotiate a new contract or else your monthly payments would go up through the roof. They never even notified me of a speed increase or sent me a new modem that could use these newer speeds which is the whole point of their modem rental scheme. So for 7 years I had only their 1Mbps Nortel modem while they were charging me a 5Mbps profile and to make it even worse they were charging me the original 2001 modem rental fee of $8/month which had since dropped to $2/month !



kyrio
LURK MORE

join:2010-03-24
East York, ON

said by EdT:

So for 7 years I had only their 1Mbps Nortel modem while they were charging me a 5Mbps profile and to make it even worse they were charging me the original 2001 modem rental fee of $8/month which had since dropped to $2/month !

Did you tell them to give you your money back? You could easily win a case against them if they don't refund the money for renting you incompatible hardware / scamming you like that.

ntba

join:2012-02-08

reply to ntba
WOW.

I was hoping for some clarification to satisfy my curiosity. Looks like I got a whole lot more

EDT, your experience hit the nail right on the head. That is exactly what happened to me. Apart from having the nortel modem and being stuck at a meg, this is exactly it!

I remember a number of years ago calling them up to ask if I could purchase a modem to get rid of the rental fee, I was given the "you cannot, its so when we have upgrades you don't have to pay for a new one" speech and its been on the back of my mind up until this day.

Never once was I contacted to upgrade my equipment and what threw me off was the fact that when it was bumped up to 6Meg I noticed the change and assumed since I had hardware which could handle it, no one needed to contact me.

The mystical "upgrade" never came...

I assumed when my charges kept going up that it was because of some contractual obligation that they couldn't break off my service as it was, but by increasing the charges would force my hand to a new plan. It worked, only not in their favor.

It was still a good value you could say, as I would have been destroyed by the overages in terms of bandwidth and I would have never thought to renegotiate anything. This has just opened my eyes to what was going on and I now see why everyone on here refers to them as "BHELL"

I have seen the light, brothers and sisters. It is bright and hot and feels a lot like anger...but there is salvation, and thy name is TekSavvy.

Thank you for opening my eyes to this



CliqueofOne

join:2003-08-22
Brantford, ON

I was grandfathered on the Sympatico/Bell unlimited 5/800 plan. But I left because I was paying way too much for what I was using. The most that I ever used was during the last winter Olympics, when I hit around 30GB. I averaged about 15 to 20 GB a month at a cost of around $70.



alienzzz
Kill Bell

join:2011-02-17
Verdun, QC
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I quit Bell back in the early years when they first introduced a 5GB cap (2002/3?). They wouldn't grandfather the unlimited plan back then. Never looked back. This way I also got rid of the Nortel modem.

Those of you who stuck with the Nortel modem, I suppose this means you lived through the 5 GB cap times after which it became unlimited once again?

If I remember correctly the maximum upload on the Nortel was 120 kbits/sec. And that's it.



EdT

join:2009-06-12
Saint-Laurent, QC

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reply to kyrio
I got the run around with the CSRs, so I fired up a nasty letter to the CEO of BCE and the next morning the VP of residential service phoned me and gave a year of free internet service. He even called back two days later to see if have gotten the new modem. I had gotten the new modem, the CSR then said it would take a week to change the profile, again the VP pulled some strings to have it done in an hour. The head of Bell system networks then called me to tell me the profile was change and if I was happy with the changes. So I stayed with them for another 3 more years until their pricing started to go through the roof once your annual contract expires. This is when another can of worms opened up, they would manually change my monthly billing for every 12 months so that it reflected the price of the contract, but every month the bill would be wrong(always more expensive), the taxes would never add up, not QC or even ON taxation(What kind of taxation were they using ?, still a mystery to this day !) so I had to called them almost every month to have it corrected. So finally I gave up putting up with this retarded company that I had to phone every month plus they had increase the price to $57 for a 7Mbps/800 60G plan and new customers had a 12 month promotional rebate for $24.95.

I told their retention department what kind of retarded company is this that has new customers pay less and old customers pay more and the customer has to phone every month for the past 3 years because the billing is always wrong ?

You don't want your old customers ? ...bye !

So that was my 10 years experience with BHell Sympatico, they even had the galls to ask me if I wanted to upgrade my service with them, I said "what ?", you guys can't even take care of my current plan properly and now you want me to pay even more ! ...LoL

I have been with Teksavvy for about 2 years now, never had to phone them once for wrong billing !



EdT

join:2009-06-12
Saint-Laurent, QC

reply to alienzzz
I had this Nortel modem from 2000 to 2007, $8/month modem rental !
I am laughing now about how crazy this turned out to be ! ...LoL


ntba

join:2012-02-08

Ohh I remember that temporary cap they had, every month I would be over! Even "back in the day" I was downloading like a madman, and would feel it at the end of every billing cycle.

My retention rep either wasn't very good or maybe switching to TekSavvy just made so much sense he knew he was wrong, but gave it a shot anyway

"Why are you leaving?"

"Because I get the same thing at half the cost!"

End of story



alienzzz
Kill Bell

join:2011-02-17
Verdun, QC
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·ELECTRONICBOX

said by ntba:

Ohh I remember that temporary cap they had, every month I would be over! Even "back in the day" I was downloading like a madman, and would feel it at the end of every billing cycle.

Yes, basically when the cap was introduced I called in to cancel. The guy tried to assure me that nobody could POSSIBLY download 5 GBs. Then he logged into my profile and saw 40 GB usage. He just went "oh..." and let me cancel. I have been with an IISP every since. Of course bell continued billing me random crap after I cancelled and I never understood why. Eventually I cancelled my credit card so they would stop.

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