| Cost to apply for a criminal pardon in Canada to quadruple OTTAWA - It's official: The cost of applying for a criminal pardon will quadruple.
The pardon application fee will jump to $631 — up from $150 — on Feb. 23 despite a prolonged outcry against the move from many in the justice community.
The federal government says recent changes that made it harder to get a pardon have also made the process of screening applications more
work-intensive and costly.
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 ARPremium,ExMod 2001-04
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Toronto, ON | They should make it even more expensive. Raise revenue through these convict aholes and cut our taxes a bit. |
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| said by AR:They should make it even more expensive. Raise revenue through these convict aholes and cut our taxes a bit.
I'm on the fence about this one. First of all, this will not even be a drop in the bucket.. Maybe a drop in the entire ocean. Second of all, a poor smalltimer who made a single mistake will have to shell out quite a bit of cash, while the big crooks won't even feel the difference.
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said by AR:They should make it even more expensive. Raise revenue through these convict aholes and cut our taxes a bit.
Knowing a couple of people who were convicted of serious crimes and who are now productive members of society and who did apply for pardons, I don't think this is a particulalrly good move. But what can you expect from the current government?
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said by FiReSTaRT:Second of all, a poor smalltimer who made a single mistake will have to shell out quite a bit of cash, while the big crooks won't even feel the difference.
Good point.
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yay, lets create a underclass of criminals to fill the Tories new prisons.
That's a responsible government. |
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| said by pat_lc2000:yay, lets create a underclass of criminals to fill the Tories new prisons.
That's a responsible government.
... pardons are for people outside of prison. |
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| said by urbanriot:... pardons are for people outside of prison.
They're also for people who have since been outstanding citizen but who still can't get a good job because of their criminal record. It's really counter-productive to raise the cost of trying to better one's life. |
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| I can't argue with that; however, if the governmental costs are really that high, I don't have a solution, and the government says they are... so the question is, before everyone freaks out over the price we should probably determine if the price is the cost or 'marked up'. |
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Peterborough, ON | reply to jaberi
Considering it takes a minimum of 4 years from conviction is saving $150.00 a year in anticipation of this that onerous? |
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said by urbanriot:I can't argue with that; however, if the governmental costs are really that high, I don't have a solution, and the government says they are... so the question is, before everyone freaks out over the price we should probably determine if the price is the cost or 'marked up'.
The government says many things, some true, some blatantly false. For the life of me why it costs $600 bucks to see if you've been clean for a couple of years astounds me.
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said by peterboro:Considering it takes a minimum of 4 years from conviction is saving $150.00 a year in anticipation of this that onerous?
BZZZT  according to Pardons Canada, it could be anywhere from 5 months to 10yrs to apply for a Pardon.
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Peterborough, ON | said by elwoodblues: BZZZT according to Pardons Canada, it could be anywhere from 5 months to 10yrs to apply for a Pardon. Your buzzer has been disabled. 2 years after summary conviction and all court ordered probation requirements fulfilled and the process itself takes 2 years minimum unless you have connections. |
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London, ON | reply to jaberi
meh...it costs time and resources (money) to do all the work to issue a pardon...the people who committed the offences in the first place should bear the costs, not the rest of us.
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Since there is apparently a delay in the process of applying for and receiving a pardon, why not have a sliding scale of fees for the pardon based on the tax returns of the individual once they have been released from prison?
Two years of returns, assuming that they are working should be enough to prove whether they can afford a higher fee or not and since all citizens have to file tax returns anyways.
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Peterborough, ON | said by NefCanuck: Two years of returns, assuming that they are working should be enough to prove whether they can afford a higher fee or not and since all citizens have to file tax returns anyways. That still requires Canadians to subsidize what is discretionary negative behaviours by other Canadians. |
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Of course getting a job often requires a clean criminal record, for which you need a pardon.
So the vicious cycle starts, but don't worry. We are building a bunch of prisons. |
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London, ON | said by pat_lc2000:So the vicious cycle starts, but don't worry. We are building a bunch of prisons.
who is "we"?
how about the fact that our (Ontario) prisons are already over capacity as it is and the prisons we do have are old and either need updating or need replacement.
BC is doing just that:
»www.vancouversun.com/business/em···ory.html
no one seems to be making a big stink of the Provincial Liberals building new prisons, but for some reason, if the Federal Conservatives talk about it, the end of the world is nigh. 
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Peterborough, ON | said by dirtyjeffer: how about the fact that our (Ontario) prisons are already over capacity as it is and the prisons we do have are old and either need updating or need replacement. Demographics support the fact that we will need less prison and jail space. You see DJ, as you yourself have posted ad nausea, you are not as likely to be a moronic heathen in your old age now. |
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we as Canadians.
With crime going down (ahhh! math that disproves me says the Tories) the only reason to build new prisons is to replace old ones.
Also I'm soooooooooooo glad Canada is doing a Public Private partnership in prisons now. Why don't we just say fuck it and join the US. |
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