 FaxCap join:2002-05-25 Surrey, BC Reviews:
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| The clean up in Japan Good article in the NP showing before and after pictures of the earthquake clean up.
»news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/09···tsunami/
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 Warez_ZealotRural land of the rising sun join:2006-04-19 Hamilton, ON | Hard to believe they did such a good cleanup so quickly. I gotta admit, they probably worked really hard to pull it off.
If that was Canada or the USA I think the mess would have been worse a year later!  |
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 | reply to FaxCap Dramatic change. Still I wonder about some of those smaller towns which had been all but erased by the wave. The debris can be removed; however nothing can replace the thousands of lives that had been lost that day. Will the few survivors return, or will these once towns remain an empty grid of pavement? |
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 Warez_ZealotRural land of the rising sun join:2006-04-19 Hamilton, ON | I have a feeling all those cleanup pics are the Sendai greater area, while the smaller coast towns haven't really been touched. Getting the heavy equipment into those towns would actually be VERY difficult if you saw the narrow roads that access those towns. Even if they did it by train, the tunnels are designed for passenger trains, so they would have to disassemble bigger cranes and diggers. |
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| reply to Warez_Zealot said by Warez_Zealot:Hard to believe they did such a good cleanup so quickly. I gotta admit, they probably worked really hard to pull it off.
If that was Canada or the USA I think the mess would have been worse a year later!  Yep first they'd have to strike a committee in order to discuss how to clean it up. Then they'd strike a sub committee on who is going to pay for it Then they'd strike a sub sub committee to figure out what government friendly contractor will get the job.
Then it will all be overruled the by the minister whose department is in charge, in favour of the company that is providing the most "donations" to his re-election campaign.
2yrs later, they are still talking about it. -- No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake....... |
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 PaoloMr. Wireless join:2004-05-29 Canada | look how fast the hydro company restored power in japan. pretty flipping fast. here the hydro companies would complain and wine. hydro is an essential service, they put new poles and transformers and wires so quick in japan its unheard of over here, probaly due to unions and waht not -- Happiness is like peeing your pants... Everyone can see it, but only you can feel its Warmth!! |
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 Warez_ZealotRural land of the rising sun join:2006-04-19 Hamilton, ON | reply to elwoodblues
said by elwoodblues:said by Warez_Zealot:Hard to believe they did such a good cleanup so quickly. I gotta admit, they probably worked really hard to pull it off.
If that was Canada or the USA I think the mess would have been worse a year later!  Yep first they'd have to strike a committee in order to discuss how to clean it up. Then they'd strike a sub committee on who is going to pay for it Then they'd strike a sub sub committee to figure out what government friendly contractor will get the job. Then it will all be overruled the by the minister whose department is in charge, in favour of the company that is providing the most "donations" to his re-election campaign. 2yrs later, they are still talking about it. Haha, that sounds about right.
I know a lot of communities just started piling and organizing the junk/debris until the heavy equipment could come in. I was up in Sendai last July, and basically things were back to normal.
This was the "Tanabata" festival in Sendai, and things were very lively. -- "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it."-Malcolm X
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC kudos:16 | reply to Paolo said by Paolo:look how fast the hydro company restored power in japan. pretty flipping fast. here the hydro companies would complain and wine. hydro is an essential service, they put new poles and transformers and wires so quick in japan its unheard of over here, probaly due to unions and waht not Clearly you weren't in Canada during the ice storm of '98. Our electrical infrastructure was virtually destroyed. 1000 steel pylons destroyed, 130 transmission towers destroyed, 30,000 wooden utility poles destroyed, 120,000 KM of power and phone lines destroyed (yes, one hundred twenty thousand). The largest damage was in Quebec, and HydroQuebec didn't have to repair the infrastructure, they had to *REBUILD* it.
The majority of people had power and phone service back a few weeks later.
In terms of Japan, their government is notorious for spending a absurd percentage of their budget on porkbelly concrete construction projects. Politicians get big sums of money to dump into their constituency's concrete construction industry, proving to voters that they bring home the bacon. Ever wonder why every municipal river in Japan seems to have concrete slopes? Yeah, useless porkbelly construction work is why. It seems to me that having that sort of infrastructure set up would help a lot in the reconstruction, because you've already got the oversized construction industry set up that can work on the recovery. -- Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org |
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 Warez_ZealotRural land of the rising sun join:2006-04-19 Hamilton, ON | I lived in Shimane prefecture for 2 years, it's basically the lowest/second lowest populated prefecture.
If you look up the bridge to nowhere, it's in Shimane, and it's one of the things they are famous for. (made fun of for)
»www.nytimes.com/2009/02/06/world···nted=all
It's too bad they do this kind of stimulus seems like the only people who really make all the cash are the red light districts and jewlers. 
»www.tokyoreporter.com/2012/01/15···penings/ -- "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it."-Malcolm X
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 | reply to FaxCap Clearly shows that Japan is a resilient nation. The rest of the world could learn a few things from them.. |
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 JBear join:2005-02-24 canada | reply to FaxCap I wonder how New Orleans is recovering? |
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| reply to qws I was in los angeles about 1 week after the northridge 1994 earth quake.
My aunt and uncle drove me around before I had to get to the business functions. Went through northridge on Interstate 5. Went through the interchange that had partly collapsed. They had already removed all debris and were it not for my uncle pointing me to the cleanly cut brdge ends, I wouldn't have known that part of the interchange above me had collapsed.
The governor had given incentives for contractors to re-open the highways , something like a mlllion bucks for every day ahead of schedule.
One has to remember that an earthquake generally has very limited zone of destruction.
They rebuilt whole highway sections around northridge in record time. While in Long beach hotel, we did feel some tremors. But while I was there, the TV stations were talking about a far greater threath to Los Angeles: RAIN. Rain causes lots of accidents on roads, and it also causes hollywood stars' homes perched on mud hills to slide down.
I was also in Sanfrancisco weeks before the Oct 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake and a year later. That year later, I walked through the neighbourhood between pier 39 and the bridge (the one built on quicksand that destroyed many homes), and you couldn't tell there had been an earthquake and all the homes were rebuilt and shiny new.
These 2 earthquakes had nothing compared to the amount of destruction caused by the tsunami in Japan and the damage was rather focused to certain areas while in japan, a large swath of ocean front was destroyed. |
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| reply to JBear said by JBear:I wonder how New Orleans is recovering? Oh it's doing just fine, if you ignore the fact that the poor folks have been muscled out. |
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 milnoc join:2001-03-05 H3B kudos:1 | reply to FaxCap Hardy bunch. They pick themselves up after a disaster, and get to work rebuilding their homes.
Then again, they do live in an earthquake zone. They're used to rebuilding after a natural disaster. Look how quickly they recovered after the 1995 Kobe earthquake. That one left whole buildings slanted! -- Watch my future television channel's public test broadcast! »thecanadianpublic.com/live |
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 dirtyjefferAnons on ignore.Premium join:2002-02-21 London, ON | reply to FaxCap makes you wonder where they put all that garbage??
their recycling depot must be packed. |
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 jmacd27Premium join:2001-05-13 Toronto, ON | reply to FaxCap Wow, pretty impressive.
I'd be curious to see the other extreme, a picture of Haiti a year later. |
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 Link LoggerPremium,MVM join:2001-03-29 Calgary, AB kudos:3 Reviews:
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| reply to FaxCap One of the best presentations on the clean up in Japan by Ryo Chijiiwa who went over to Japan as a cleanup volunteer and spent two months in Iwate prefecture in Ofunato, Rikuzentakata, and Yamada, as well as many smaller communities along the coast.
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwU--meig7k
Tip of the hat to the Japanese for their so far fast recovery, as there is lots of work left to do.
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 snafuIs it Friday yet ?Premium join:2004-02-16 Mississauga | reply to FaxCap Judging by the pictures they have done very well at recovery efforts but you can bet some is a front to save face and much work is still to be done. Not to mention the decon of the nukes.
When is the island of debris scheduled to wash up on the left coast. Some of that is radioactive isn't it ? I had seen an article where after so much loss we are asked to be respectful of the debris. |
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| said by snafu:Some of that is radioactive isn't it ? Nope »marinedebris.noaa.gov/info/japanfaqs.html#4
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 | reply to Thane_Bitter said by Thane_Bitter:Dramatic change. Still I wonder about some of those smaller towns which had been all but erased by the wave. The debris can be removed; however nothing can replace the thousands of lives that had been lost that day. Will the few survivors return, or will these once towns remain an empty grid of pavement? Millions die everyday. So what.... -- Cut your losses short and let your winners run. |
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