| [BC] Canadian internet lagging I just returned from a trip to Asia, visiting several countries, Malaysia, Thailand, Hong Kong, using wifi cafes/hotels. I was curious about speed and did the broadband speedtest several times.
One would think I would find some slow connections, it never went
below the fastest speed I have ever experienced with my shaw account of just over 5 Mbps. I was surprised some internet cafes were testing over 15, often 5-10 Mb down in very congested large cities or even small towns, Canada is behind in speed it appears to me. Of course statistics show we are way down in speed across the world? Wondering why, and paying so much! Feeling overcharged and underserved here in Nelson. |
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| said by passcreek:I just returned from a trip to Asia, visiting several countries, Malaysia, Thailand, Hong Kong, using wifi cafes/hotels. I was curious about speed and did the broadband speedtest several times.
One would think I would find some slow connections, it never went
below the fastest speed I have ever experienced with my shaw account of just over 5 Mbps. I was surprised some internet cafes were testing over 15, often 5-10 Mb down in very congested large cities or even small towns, Canada is behind in speed it appears to me. Of course statistics show we are way down in speed across the world? Wondering why, and paying so much! Feeling overcharged and underserved here in Nelson.
A recent independent study shows that you are wrong. In fact in Calgary I can get 30+ mbps Shaw Wifi at certain locations in town. I get 50 mbps service at home.
www.lya.com/en/index.html
"The results of fifty-two million end-user speed tests have shown Canada as a global contender in Broadband Internet performance, ranking often in the top ten of international countries, according to a new report by LEMAY-YATES ASSOCIATES Inc."
"Canada takes the number one spot in highest broadband penetration among G7 countries at 74%, significantly ahead of the United Kingdom and France at 69.2% and 69%, respectively. Using the latest data available, LYA found Canada ranks seventh out of 32 OECD countries in the same metric, up from the 10th spot as reported by the OECD.
Canada’s average consumer broadband speed performance comes in at the top half with 11.5 Mbps, in 15th place, faster than average speeds seen by consumers in France and the U.K."
So the answer to the OP is that the folks studying Internet speeds internationally find that Canada is not lagging at all, but is definitely keeping pace. |
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| The idea that Canada is behind on internet or mobile is a total myth perpetuated by (A) the media in Canada who like to create controversy and (B) small providers who are trying to get government to subsidize their profits with taxpayer dollars. |
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| Ask Doonz if he thinks his Broadband 250 is 'lagging'. :P |
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| said by ravenchilde:Ask Doonz if he thinks his Broadband 250 is 'lagging'. :P
Yeah its not lagging per say but the cost is high compared to other countries. Im just happy that there is one ISP offering this type connection |
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| reply to ravenchilde
A very important paragraph is missing ...
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This study was sponsored by Rogers Communications Inc., a leading Canadian telecommunications carrier. LYA found that not only does Canada rank amongst world’s best in Internet cost and performance, but the average Rogers broadband subscriber:
So, Rogers is the ISP to beat, eh? Last I heard, they still had throttling and instanely low caps. |
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| reply to passcreek
Canada is also polorazied. Telus and Shaw both offer much superior services out west then Bell/Rogers offer out east.
I think Canada rates not to bad in terms of advertised speeds. However if you were to rate in terms of actual speed, it averages down, especially in eastern canada.
Also if you look at the quality of the internet. Throttling/Caps have a huge impact in eastern Canada as well.
Basically I think Bell/Rogers bring the whole country down a few notches. |
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| reply to tlhIngan
said by tlhIngan:A very important paragraph is missing
So, Rogers is the ISP to beat, eh? Last I heard, they still had throttling and instanely low caps.
We should frame the above quote in gold. :P |
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| If anything brings us down, it's DSL from Bell, Telus, etc. |
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| reply to passcreek
I would say the main point was true a couple of years ago.
I remember the max being offered here was 6mb on Telus and 10 on Shaw.
My Bro in Japan was getting 35+. It seems the playing field is evening out. |
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said by redwasp :If anything brings us down, it's DSL from Bell, Telus, etc.
Don't most countries have the same thing. Cable/DSL provider based internet? Except in some of the super population dense Asian cities where its all fibre.
I think Telus offers decent DSL speeds compared to their counterparts in other countries. I can't say the same for bell. |
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| reply to passcreek
You seem to have forgotten where the vast population of Canada resides. In Ontario where 2 and 25 gigabytes a month limit cap are the norm. Speed is completely useless if you can't use it. |
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| said by Chuck sTruck :You seem to have forgotten where the vast population of Canada resides. In Ontario where 2 and 25 gigabytes a month limit cap are the norm. Speed is completely useless if you can't use it.
+1.
I don't think bell/rogers offer speeds as high as telus/shaw either. |
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| reply to zod5000
said by zod5000:said by redwasp :If anything brings us down, it's DSL from Bell, Telus, etc.
Don't most countries have the same thing. Cable/DSL provider based internet? Except in some of the super population dense Asian cities where its all fibre. I think Telus offers decent DSL speeds compared to their counterparts in other countries. I can't say the same for bell. Actually, DSL is the most common form of "wired" broadband in the WORLD.
64% of the world accesses the internet via DSL.
DSL is extremely popular in China (surprising, right, FTTH is only available in a small amount of areas, usually where one provider has a monopoly).
It's also the predominant way China access the internet.
DSL is truly global. |
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| said by redwasp :Actually, DSL is the most common form of "wired" broadband in the WORLD.
64% of the world accesses the internet via DSL.
I'm sorry to hear that. 64% of the world are on what the CEO of AT&T (A major DSL provider) called an 'Obsolete' technology.
»AT&T CEO Calls DSL 'Obsolete'
The quote:
"We built DSL back in 1997 to chase David’s company and now that’s obsolete," Stephenson stated (and confirmed by attendees), referring to Comcast and Comcast EVP David Cohen. |
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| He was referring to regular ATT DSL (ADSL1). Upgraded ADSL2, VDSL2 U-verse service is quite suffice for today's needs.
If DSL was dead, why are global telecoms (Telefonica, Deutsche Telekom, China Telecom) deploying IPTV over VDSL2? |
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| reply to passcreek
Having read some responses, come to Nelson BC. Obviously Shaw and other ISP's I suspect treat rural BC differently. If you can get 50Mbps in Calgary, and I cannot get consistently 4Mbps here in Nelson, something is wrong. I suggest and have heard that Shaw equipment and the continuous changing electronic upgrades occurr first in the cities and with the population, fair enough. We are treated as second class, because the subscribers and the money is not here in rural BC, but one would think we could at least maintain 5 Mbps, when you in the city are achieving 50 |
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| said by passcreek:Having read some responses, come to Nelson BC. Obviously Shaw and other ISP's I suspect treat rural BC differently. If you can get 50Mbps in Calgary, and I cannot get consistently 4Mbps here in Nelson, something is wrong. I suggest and have heard that Shaw equipment and the continuous changing electronic upgrades occurr first in the cities and with the population, fair enough. We are treated as second class, because the subscribers and the money is not here in rural BC, but one would think we could at least maintain 5 Mbps, when you in the city are achieving 50
It costs more to deliver to rural cities. Shaw doesn't provider services from the goodness of their hearts, they do it to make money.
If they do it in a major city they have anywhere from 300k people to 2 million people to diversify the costs and make the money off of. It's much easier for them to make their money. People tend to live closer to each other. The amount of customers they connect in every square km requires less cable and what not.
If you live in a small towns, there isn't enough people to make technology rollout worthwhile (monetarily). It's why governments try and grant subsidies and what not just to get broadband rolled out in some of these areas, because companies won't touch 'em. |
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