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daveinpoway
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Traveling Light in a Time of Digital Thievery

"SAN FRANCISCO — When Kenneth G. Lieberthal, a China expert at the Brookings Institution, travels to that country, he follows a routine that seems straight from a spy film.":

»www.nytimes.com/2012/02/11/techn···.html?hp


mackey

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Later still, the chamber discovered that its office printer and even a thermostat in one of its corporate apartments were still communicating with an Internet address in China.

Lol, even their thermostat got pwned!

/M


beerbum
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reply to daveinpoway
And yet people and companies continue to do business with China.. all because greed is driving their false hope of some day tapping into China's vast market and striking it rich..

In the meantime, all those hoops they keep having to jump through, all the red tape and all the bureaucratic delays are just a ploy to give enough time for the Chinese to steal whatever intellectual property it is that they want.


daveinpoway
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One thing that concerns me:

"McAfee, the security company, said that if any employee’s device was inspected at the Chinese border, it could never be plugged into McAfee’s network again. Ever. “We just wouldn't take the risk,” said Simon Hunt, a vice president."

If McAfee doesn't have confidence that their security software would protect their network from something which was installed into a device, should I have any confidence that their software will protect my network?


Marsman1

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Very interesting, thx!



Noah Vail
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reply to daveinpoway

said by daveinpoway:

One thing that concerns me:

"McAfee, the security company, said that if any employee's device was inspected at the Chinese border, it could never be plugged into McAfee's network again. Ever. "We just wouldn't take the risk" said Simon Hunt, a vice president."

If McAfee doesn't have confidence that their security software would protect their network from something which was installed into a device, should I have any confidence that their software will protect my network?

McAfee is worried about hardware infectors. There are layers where malware can lay that can't be effectively monitored w/ live scanners.
If someone winds up w/ one they were probably targeted.

These bugs are discoverable by someone w/ the tools and experience to find them. It takes a lot of time, though.
It's simpler and much less expensive to purchase new equipment.

Also - if malicious code has new capabilities, there may be a period between it's creation and the ability to discover it.
A lot of damage can be done in that short amount of time.
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DataDoc
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“China is committed to protecting the legitimate rights and interests of foreign companies in our country.” And China defines those "rights."
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Curiosity

join:2001-10-01
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Why would a thermostat be connected to the internet?



Juggernaut
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To control it remotely. Leave work at 5, house is warm by 5:20.



Noah Vail
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said by Curiosity:

Why would a thermostat be connected to the internet?

Since this wasn't a residence, it was most likely setup for monitoring by the HVAC contractor.
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aannoonn

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said by beerbum:

And yet people and companies continue to do business with China..

Guess what - The US government does all these things, too.

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