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elec_window

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Electric cable through window?

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An electrician just installed outside lights with motion detectors... I just reviewed his work and I'm concerned about how the cables are installed... (Look at the picture) Is this dangerous? The window framing is in aluminium...

I'll be installing drywalls before the end of the month so I'll need to fix this before if it's not a good installation...


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said by elec_window :

I just reviewed his work and I'm concerned about how the cables are installed... (Look at the picture) Is this dangerous? The window framing is in aluminium...

It sure as heck isn't compliant.

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Zach 58
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On the rare occasions when I work with cable, I drill a hole through the concrete large enough to allow a PVC conduit sleeve of sufficient size to pass the cable. Then I seal the ends with a UL approved duct seal compound. I wouldn't accept the installation in your picture under any circumstances. Whether or not it's seriously dangerous depends on how much space exists between the window frame and concrete and if any sharp edges exist along the path of the cable.

Edit to add, after looking at the curtain rod mount more closely, it appears the top screw had to be removed in order to move the mount enough to pass the cable. Without a doubt....a redo is in order.



ArthurS
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reply to elec_window
I'd hate to see what it looks like on the outside! Haul that sorry electrician's lazy butt back and tell him to do a proper job of it, or else you'll call the electrical inspector on him!



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reply to elec_window
Hard to tell everything that is going on from your photo. Can you post additional photos, including from outside?

The job the so-called 'electrician' did is pathetic; and as cheap and lazy as can be. Is this person a licensed electrician?

Although the NEC allows non-metallic cables to be installed exposed, many local codes do not. As well, IMHO, those cables are subject to damage, making them additionally non-code compliant. Likewise, I don't see anyway to finish the space or put molding around the window, without having to move the cables. I would guess that the cables are no properly secured to the structure; and the electrician likely used no junction box to mount the light fixture. True?

From what I can see, the 'electrician' should have drilled a hole through the wall, at the same height where the cables pas over the wooden stud.



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reply to elec_window
is that zip cord?


nonymous
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reply to elec_window
Did the drill break so no concrete? What is above the header board. Any attic they can get into or not. You refused any wallboard damage?

Beyond that and still bad install.



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reply to elec_window
That looks like something the cable company would do. LMAO.
I hope this post is just a joke.
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said by whizkid3:

Although the NEC allows non-metallic cables to be installed exposed, many local codes do not.

Remember people the NEC does not apply here it is in Canada and more so it is in Quebec which is a quasi entity within Canada that is "distinct". So what you may consider unacceptable may be SOP in a province with a track record of questionable practices and rampant corruption in the construction industry or lax standards. That said I rarely see something like that in Canada proper.

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reply to elec_window
That installation is wrong on so many levels.



davidg
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right down to the curtain rod hanger!


peterboro
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said by davidg:

right down to the curtain rod hanger!

Yes you noticed as well. You see the plan is to install the top screw now but go off center into the electrical cable. If you are going to screw something up may as well do it right.

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reply to elec_window
Judging from the studs on the right and at the top, this appears to be a basement window. The window appears to be located in the middle of a concrete wall and not at the top of the wall. I'm curious how the OP intends to frame out that window. I'd normally expect to see a sill plate directly above the window. Even the framing looks questionable to me.



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said by nunya:

That looks like something the cable company would do. LMAO.

LOL that was exactly what I was thinking... what an ugly hack.


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reply to elec_window

said by elec_window :

An electrician just installed outside lights with motion detectors... I just reviewed his work and I'm concerned about how the cables are installed... (Look at the picture) Is this dangerous? The window framing is in aluminium...

I'll be installing drywalls before the end of the month so I'll need to fix this before if it's not a good installation...

LOL and to think that Quebec trusts these guys more than you to do your own electrical work.

Do yourself a favor and report him to the authorities. Any electrician doing stupid shit like this doesn't need a license.


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reply to peterboro

said by peterboro:

Yes you noticed as well. You see the plan is to install the top screw now but go off center into the electrical cable. If you are going to screw something up may as well do it right.

Au contraire; I am sure that's why they used the Robertson screw. Can't afford a slip-up, you know.

telco_mtl

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reply to peterboro

said by peterboro:

said by whizkid3:

Although the NEC allows non-metallic cables to be installed exposed, many local codes do not.

Remember people the NEC does not apply here it is in Canada and more so it is in Quebec which is a quasi entity within Canada that is "distinct". So what you may consider unacceptable may be SOP in a province with a track record of questionable practices and rampant corruption in the construction industry or lax standards. That said I rarely see something like that in Canada proper.

that by no means is acceptable around here, you see it a lot in older homes when someone would add an outlet. I doubt that a real electrician, if i was ispecting this house this definately would be tagged because the wire now is at risk of mechanical damage

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I would try to call the ordre des électriciens to find out if/how you can report shoddy work and have it officially declared illegal so that another electrician could fix it.

You need to consider that should your house burn down, insurance might have a problem with such electrical work, especially since it is near flammable styrofoam.

When you sell your house, you would likely have to declare this electrical work as a known vice so that you would not be held responsible for it to be repaired by new onwers once they find out.



justwonderin

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reply to elec_window
to the experts, what is so dangerous about that?


jfmezei
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Unprotected wiring next to metal frame, next to screws and next to flammable material.


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