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| New internet prices as of February 8 I didn't see this already mentioned, so here it is:
»www.telus.com/content/internet/h···lans.jsp
I was told by a Telus rep that these new prices are as of February 8. My High Speed Turbo dropped $3/month. |
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| Telus will soon will only cater to the poor. Maybe charge around $9.95 a month for dsl internet. The rest will be with Shaw on the 250/15 plan as it costs peanuts out west. |
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| 250Mbps w/ 1TB traffic for 114.90/month
250Mbps ultd. for 134.90/month
yea....peanuts |
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| reply to Mango
Far from 'peanuts' however the speeds Shaw is offering far exceeds what anything Telus does. I believe that was the main point you were trying to make. |
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| reply to Chuck sTruck
Well, when the usual lobby complains about high broadband prices, they can forget Telus and blame SHAW! |
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 jed
join:2001-07-06
Alberta, Can | reply to rustydusty
Its all in the market - was at a place yesterday who upgraded their 1mbps service to a 5mbps one from Eastlink, which was going to cost them approx $52/mo from their original approx $20/mo.
For now, I'm set on keeping my 3mbps Telus account until they upgrade our area.
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| I couldn't even think about 3Mb for my line. My exchange VM could saturate that during the day without issue. It can give my Business BB50 a run for it's money at times. |
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| reply to Mango
When I moved into my new place telus could only offer me 15mbps. Previously I had 25mbps. So I switch to Shaw's 50mbps plan. That is 59/month. My household uses more then the 400gb cap. When the stepup thing kicks in the bill would probably be more like 79 a month.
If telus would just upgrade to 25mbps I'd switch back to save money. 25mbps unlimited is pretty good (or good enough). |
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| reply to Mango
Compared to Shaw's basic packages, Telus is cheaper, faster, and offers a higher cap.
Shaw High Speed 10:
- $45/month
- 125GB data.
Telus High Speed Turbo (15):
- $44/month
- 250GB data.
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Shaw High Speed 20:
- $55/month
- 200GB data.
Telus High Speed Turbo (25):
- $49/month
- 500GB data. |
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| So, with Telus offering relatively low speeds at cheap prices, it seems to be targeting the low ARPU retail broadband segment. With Shaw offering faster speeds at premium prices, it seems to be catering to the high ARPU retail broadband market.
Why isn't Telus targeting the high ARPU segment as it does in Wireless? Profits would go way up. Why is wireline so much different than wireless? |
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jed
join:2001-07-06
Alberta, Can | Perhaps its a budget issue? Which would explain why my area is still 3mbps. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be faster, but to pay almost double to get 5mbps from Eastlink over my Telus, I'm staying with Telus.
And @rustydusty, truth be told, unless I'm torrenting or on NG's, I find it hard to saturate my line.
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| reply to redwasp
said by redwasp :So, with Telus offering relatively low speeds at cheap prices, it seems to be targeting the low ARPU retail broadband segment. With Shaw offering faster speeds at premium prices, it seems to be catering to the high ARPU retail broadband market.
Why isn't Telus targeting the high ARPU segment as it does in Wireless? Profits would go way up. Why is wireline so much different than wireless? Telus's speeds aren't relatively low. Telus' max speed is much lower than Shaw's, but if you consider the speeds that customers are actually buying then they are not so far apart. I bet less than 5% of Shaw's customers are on anything over their 50mbps plan.
Second, DSL isn't the leading edge of Telus' growth strategy. TV is. Telus is securing customers by leading off with TV and then securing internet and phone as pull throughs. As Telus noted on Friday in its quarterly earnings call, customers are making their decision between Telus and Shaw based on the TV offering so minor differences in speed and price on the Internet portion are less relevant.
Telus' strategy is to win by differentiating using their TV offering. Shaw's strategy is to win by differentiating using their Internet offering. The past several quarters have clearly shown that one of these strategies is not working.
Of course this doesn't mean that Telus can become complacent with their current speeds, which they aren't. |
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| reply to jed
Let me put my two virtualized machines there and see how easy it is  |
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 pfakBow before me for I am rootPremium
join:2002-12-29
Vancouver, BC | reply to Mango
Do existing customers get these new rates? Last time there was a rate decrease it was not reflected in existing customers bills.
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Mangowww.toao.net
join:2008-12-25
Alberta
kudos:8 | I had to call in for it. |
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| reply to Mango
Really hoping Telus brings in the 50mbps plan soon. Shaw is going crazy with their new EXO stuff. Commercials everywhere, with a huge cheap promotional bundle price. |
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| reply to tudorwise
said by tudorwise :Telus's speeds aren't relatively low. Telus' max speed is much lower than Shaw's, but if you consider the speeds that customers are actually buying then they are not so far apart. I bet less than 5% of Shaw's customers are on anything over their 50mbps plan.
Second, DSL isn't the leading edge of Telus' growth strategy. TV is. Telus is securing customers by leading off with TV and then securing internet and phone as pull throughs. As Telus noted on Friday in its quarterly earnings call, customers are making their decision between Telus and Shaw based on the TV offering so minor differences in speed and price on the Internet portion are less relevant.
Telus' strategy is to win by differentiating using their TV offering. Shaw's strategy is to win by differentiating using their Internet offering. The past several quarters have clearly shown that one of these strategies is not working.
Of course this doesn't mean that Telus can become complacent with their current speeds, which they aren't.
I would say the expensive promotions such as the $500 Samsung galaxy tablet (if you sign up for three years) is attracting customers to switch more so than the TV offering.
Once the promotions stop, so do the new additions.
These promotions are unsustainable as it just increases Telus' losses. Optik TV runs at a loss, as noted on the quarterly earnings call.
One reason Telus is being so aggressive now in terms of marketing and promotions is because they want to add as many customers before Shaw wields the last blow: Making 250 mpbs the same price as Telus' highest plan 25 mpbs. Telus will be in a stranglehold and have no way to respond unless they make a costly investment to replace the copper last-mile with fiber.
Internet speed should be the flagship product for Telus as it is becoming more important (that's a whole other discussion), but obviously their copper network cannot achive the same speeds as cable at the same level of investment. Unlike Telus' short-term vision on internet speeds, Shaw's speeds reflect how internet speed will increasingly play a role in a customer's decision in choosing providers. |
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| said by redwasp :I would say the expensive promotions such as the $500 Samsung galaxy tablet (if you sign up for three years) is attracting customers to switch more so than the TV offering.
Once the promotions stop, so do the new additions.
These promotions are unsustainable as it just increases Telus' losses. Optik TV runs at a loss, as noted on the quarterly earnings call. Telus has been offering free computers, game consoles and tablets to new internet/TV customers for years. There is nothing to suggest that these promotions are unsustainable. Its merely a cost of acquisition, which is easy to recover when the customer is paying $100+ per month.
Also, you don't think Telus really pays $500 for the tab do you? Samsung is probably selling them to Telus at a loss just to move inventory.
One reason Telus is being so aggressive now in terms of marketing and promotions is because they want to add as many customers before Shaw wields the last blow: Making 250 mpbs the same price as Telus' highest plan 25 mpbs.
Telus will be in a stranglehold and have no way to respond unless they make a costly investment to replace the copper last-mile with fiber.
Internet speed should be the flagship product for Telus as it is becoming more important (that's a whole other discussion), but obviously their copper network cannot achive the same speeds as cable at the same level of investment. Unlike Telus' short-term vision on internet speeds, Shaw's speeds reflect how internet speed will increasingly play a role in a customer's decision in choosing providers. |
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| reply to Mango
Telus couldn't GIVE me 5 tablets to switch back, atleast right now. Once they start actually utilizing their VDSL hardware to the fullest, then I would reconsider. Their business plans need to start using VDSL as well, as running any descent size company and resources on 1Mb upload is painful. They need to offer something like I have with Shaw, which is 50x5, 1 free static, 500GB, all ports unblocked and for $100/month with basic TV. |
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Symtex
join:2005-04-06
Burnaby, BC
kudos:12 | reply to WontonNoodle
said by WontonNoodle:Really hoping Telus brings in the 50mbps plan soon. Shaw is going crazy with their new EXO stuff. Commercials everywhere, with a huge cheap promotional bundle price.
Its a work in progress. It will come. I just don't have an ETA right now.
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