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tommy79

join:2009-08-09
Mississauga, ON

WinXP My Network Place and Network Printer

Hi

1.
I bought brother network printer HL-2270DW two days ago. It has the following protocals:

Web Based Management
(Web Server)
SNMP Advanced Setting
LPD
Raw Port
IPP Advanced Setting
Web Services Advanced Setting
POP3/SMTP Advanced Setting
FTP
TFTP
mDNS Advanced Setting
LLMNR
LLTD

2.
My goal is to have this printer to be listed TOGETHER WITH MY computers on under my workgroup name instead of having this printer listed ( shared ) under print server ( any windows pc can be share the printer)

I can ping, the printer i can print no problem to it.
The printer is member of the same workgroup, the same subnet as my xp pcs.

This is NetBIOS configuration options:
-----------------------------------------------
Configure NetBIOS (Wireless)
NETBIOS/IP Enable Disable
Computer Name printer-brother
WINS Server Method
Primary WINS Server IP Address
Secondary WINS Server IP Address
----------------------------------------------

This is TCP/IP configuration options:
----------------------------------------------
Configure TCP/IP (Wireless)
TCP/IP Enable
IP Address 192.168.8.220
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.8.1
Boot Method

Enable APIPA -> YES
Advanced settings
Configure IPv6
Configure IPv4 Filter
---------------------------------------------

3.
Should i disable TCP/IP and leave NETBIOS/IP enabled?
I am going NUTS here.

4.
Why the printer doesn't show/list in my Network Places Win XP Home, under my WORKGROUP name, together with my other XP computers on the LAN ? Like a stand alone Printer, rather than shared Printer under Workstation?

5.
I even set up SAMBA WINS server to see if that helps to have the Printer display under my Workgroup and not under my PC( printer server). Still without success. I tried to set up under SAMBA server print server still only displays under the Ubuntu PC. I want to see it as stand alone machine not under other pcs (print servers)

The printer has prints server built in. I should see him the same as other PC Samba or Windows XP.

Can you give me some advice?

Thanks you all,

HarryH3

join:2005-02-21
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If the printer is showing up under your computer, then it seems that you selected the "Share this printer" option when you were installing the drivers on your PC. You don't need to do that step with a networked printer because it doesn't require a "host" PC to manage network printing. The internal print server takes care of that for you.

The printer won't show up with the other computers because it isn't a computer. Windows still treats it as a printer, even though it has a print server built in. To print to it from other PC's you'll need to install the print drivers for that printer on each PC and then point the system to the IP address of the printer during the driver setup. No Netbios required. I have the same printer working great here.

I don't have an XP system running right now to test with, but in Win 7 I can click the "Network" icon in Explorer and see the printer. It doesn't show up in the "Computers" section, but down below in the "Printers" section. I can right click and select "View Device Webpage" to go directly to the built-in web server.


tommy79

join:2009-08-09
Mississauga, ON

reply to tommy79
I know that there is a way to display the printer the same way my PCs ( windows XP and ubuntu PC with Samba ) display/list under my workgroup name when i expend the workgroup.

I know it is doable cause i work back in the days with NT4 and windows 2000 and the printers where listed under the domain name, so i figure they should be able to display under the Workgroup name without problem, but how to do it?

BTW. Thanks for you input.

Does anyone know how to configure it?

Thx


tommy79

join:2009-08-09
Mississauga, ON

reply to tommy79
I want people to see the printer not a print server or workstation that the printer is shared on under.

Anyone knows how to achieve it?



Thane_Bitter

join:2005-01-20
London

1 edit

said by tommy79:

I want people to see the printer not a print server or workstation that the printer is shared on under.

If you enable uPnP on all your XP machines it should appear from within "my network places". (Go to Control Panel, Add/remove software; add/remove windows components, networking services). This assumes the printer supports uPnP

However, doing so will still not allow you to print.

Generally speaking you still must install the driver locally on all machines, and then change the print port to a TCP/IP (i.e. the IP address of the printer). Every manufacture makes things different, though they all seem to do a poor job documenting how their stuff works.

EDIT: network manual is here: »www.brother-usa.com/ModelDocumen···2639.PDF
Clear as mud.

tommy79

join:2009-08-09
Mississauga, ON

reply to tommy79
I am back.

Let check it out. I AM SO ECITED . I WANT TO SEE IN MY NETWORK PLACE MY network Printer o man, let see..................

B.T.W. thx to all



wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

Can you post a picture of how the printer is shown now


tommy79

join:2009-08-09
Mississauga, ON

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Still without success, not network printer showing under my workgroup name once expended. I installed the uPnP on win XP and Dlink 655 router as well.
I restarted the XP and printer, still not showing the Network printer.

The printer works perfectly fine it just doesnt show in my network Places. Thats all.

I installed Peer-to-Peer Service as well, if that could help. But still the same.

Here is the screen shot.


wayjac
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said by tommy79:

this printer listed ( shared ) under print server ( any windows pc can be share the printer)

I wanted to see a picture of "this printer listed ( shared ) under print server"

tommy79

join:2009-08-09
Mississauga, ON

reply to tommy79
This is stand alone IP ( networked ) printer, is installed on each PC, ex: win XP or Linux Ubuntu 10.4 without any problems with appropriated OS printer drivers.

This printer is not shared on any PC, it is stand alone and i want to see it listed together with my PCs desktops,

The printer has build-in print server. F.Y.I



wayjac
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join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

said by tommy79:

I know it is doable cause i work back in the days with NT4 and windows 2000 and the printers where listed under the domain name

That NT4 and windows 2000 setup may have used a domain instead of a workgroup

tommy79

join:2009-08-09
Mississauga, ON

reply to tommy79
Are you saying that because it is workgroup setup i can not see the printer listed under the workgoup name in XP network Places?



wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

Yes..............
Windows has a add printer wizard that will display and help install printers
I never used ubuntu so I can't comment about that computer operating system


tommy79

join:2009-08-09
Mississauga, ON

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The wizard doesn't display my brother 2270WD print server, but is capable to display print server without printers on my two Ubuntu PCs.

Why doesn't show ? the Brother print server ? when adding the printer ?

See attachment pic.


wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

reply to tommy79
Let me clean up my comment about a windows domain........
From what I remember about a windows domain a networked printer won't show in a network places window


tommy79

join:2009-08-09
Mississauga, ON

reply to tommy79
I am not going to argue but i work for government organization ant their network had listed printer the same way Workstation where listed and all you have to do to install that printer was clicking the printer icon or user like you said the add printer wizard.



wayjac
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join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

reply to tommy79
When windows refers to a shared printer it is a printer that is connected by parallel or usb cable to a computer and is shared

With a networked printer you must create a port and install a driver then you can share that printer from the printers properties dialog, then the printer will be found by the add printer wizard nested to the computer the printer is connected to


tommy79

join:2009-08-09
Mississauga, ON

reply to tommy79
I agree with you.

But my printer doesn't need to be shared, it is network printer.

The printer is installed and works without issues. I point the TCPip Port to his IP address but that is not my consern, I don't want to repeat myself, i want to see it listed so every new person can see what my network printers or other hardware if possible are on the LAN.



wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
kudos:1

reply to tommy79

said by tommy79:

I am not going to argue but i work for government organization ant their network had listed printer the same way Workstation where listed and all you have to do to install that printer was clicking the printer icon or user like you said the add printer wizard

All printers need a installed printer driver to print from a computer

When you share a printer from a computer the computer has a copy of the printer driver that is made availible to any computer that adds the shared printer

tommy79

join:2009-08-09
Mississauga, ON

reply to tommy79
That is correct.


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