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ShawX

join:2012-02-08
reply to ShawX

Re: BB250 Horrible Speeds

Well apparently the guy didn't put in any notes or w/e to have the signal issue looked at like he said he would, or thats what they said in online chat. Hopefully this guy follows through with it!

So frustrating when you know it is not an issue with your stuff!



ShawSean

join:2010-07-16
Vernon, BC
kudos:12

I'm still around, just pm me and I'll get some eye's on it.

Cheers.
--
Sean
Twitter - @Shaw_Sean


ShawX

join:2012-02-08
reply to ShawX

Hey Sean,

Just wondering what acceptable speeds would be considered on BB250? Both up and down.

Not sure at all on the upload but I was told 5+ mbits is acceptable. Speed tests are completely inaccurate and I should add 20% onto every speedtest according to the local network guy per the Shaw Tech today. (I could use my own monitoring tools but would they hold any truth in this matter)?

Is 150, 160, 175, etc. what should we expect on BB250?

What should we all expect out of a BB250 connection? Is speedtest.shaw.ca so inaccurate that we need to add +20% onto the results?

This is just my opinion but I would say 200mbits or 80% is acceptable.


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB

said by ShawX:

Hey Sean,

Just wondering what acceptable speeds would be considered on BB250? Both up and down.

Not sure at all on the upload but I was told 5+ mbits is acceptable. Speed tests are completely inaccurate and I should add 20% onto every speedtest according to the local network guy per the Shaw Tech today. (I could use my own monitoring tools but would they hold any truth in this matter)?

Is 150, 160, 175, etc. what should we expect on BB250?

What should we all expect out of a BB250 connection? Is speedtest.shaw.ca so inaccurate that we need to add +20% onto the results?

This is just my opinion but I would say 200mbits or 80% is acceptable.

Good day sir/maam,

I have yet to get a speed test result that is anywhere near real world speeds.

The highest I've gotten is 190mbs down and 10mbs up. When in fact according to my router (Pfsense box running on a dual atom @ 1.8Ghz w/4gb ram on a 30gb ssb) I have saturated the link beyond theoretical speeds. Highest recorded is 32.8MB/s down and 1.6MB/s up. Im guessing there is some caching going on within the router that causes these spikes.

Using private torrent sites with gbit seed boxes that i know i can pull the full 31MB/s from i usually get around 25-28Mb/s as for upload i cap it at 500kb/s but have no trouble sustaining it.

When using Usenet i get a constant 30MB/s but ive had to use 2 providers Astraweb and Supernews to acheive this, If i only use one i get maxed out around 17MB/s

With running such a fast connection you have to remeber that alot of the servers your connecting to use a load balancing or a max output to control bandwidth.

I'd reccomend trying to grab some files from multiple sources and take a look at the router wan speed and see what your total is coming in at.

But if your constantly able to get around 75% of your bandwidth your doing well. If you can speed test from gbit+ sites and know tha tyou have the routing as well as they have the spare bandwidth you should be able to get a good speed test.

Like this year i had 12 streams of NHL Center Ice going with a setting of Best availible. 1 Netflix HD movie playing and 1 Hulu stream going as well as my Plex media server streaming out and was able to fully saturate the links.

It takes alot of effort to max out this type of connection. The best way to figure things out is for you to have total control from both the the home connection and the remote connection.

The other thing is tha tunless your grabbing LARGE files 4+gb in size you may never rev your link up to full speed.


asimovv

@shawcable.net

I have a broadband 250 connection , but not able to get anywhere close to it .. average speedtest at 90-130mbps .

the final report came to that , they said my condo equipment can not keep up the speed . my building is built in 1996. I don't think this is the case .



rustydusty

join:2009-09-29
Red Deer, AB
reply to ShawX

Only reason I would upgrade from my current Business BB50 to Business BB250 would be the increase in upload speed. 100Mb download is more enough for this guy.


kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:2

Be even better to upgrade Business BB100 to 10mpbs like the residental connections are, instead of the same speed as BB50

That and $250 for the BB50 to BB250 upgrade each month
--
Yes, I am not employed and looking for IT work. Have passport, will travel.



rustydusty

join:2009-09-29
Red Deer, AB
reply to ShawX

I'd rather stay with the Business BB50, get an upgrade to 20Mb upload speeds. 50x20 would suffice for me, for now. Would have to order a couple more static's then is all


kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:2

Indeed,

Even 20x20 would be great,

Download isn't a big concern, upload is.

The fiber lines they use, are the same speeds in both directions, makes one wonder what the utilization on the upstream side of their links looks like.

But I believe we are off-topic now.

-Posted from my phone.


ravenchilde

join:2011-04-01
kudos:2

said by kevinds:

The fiber lines they use, are the same speeds in both directions, makes one wonder what the utilization on the upstream side of their links looks like.

That isn't true, if we're talking about about DOCSIS and Cable Infrastructures. I'll cite Ars Technica's great "Meet DOCSIS" article (»arstechnica.com/business/2011/05···-access/).

"Frequencies from 5 to 42 or 65 MHz are used for return traffic, while higher frequencies, up to as high as 1 GHz, are used for broadcast and downstream traffic."

So you have about 40 MHz dedicate to all upstream traffic (Data and TV). Then you have about 500 - 600 MHz dedicated for downstream (Analog, Digital QAM TV, "DOCSIS" Data QAM).

So there is far more bandwidth available downstream.

kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:2

The modems can bond 4 upstream channels, and 4 or 8 downstream channels.

More than enough.

-Posted from my phone.


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB

said by kevinds:

The modems can bond 4 upstream channels, and 4 or 8 downstream channels.

More than enough.

-Posted from my phone.

Take that Back Its never enough!!!!!!

ravenchilde

join:2011-04-01
kudos:2

said by Doonz:

said by kevinds:

The modems can bond 4 upstream channels, and 4 or 8 downstream channels.

More than enough.

-Posted from my phone.

Take that Back Its never enough!!!!!!

New modem in the wild:
"The Puma6-MG supports 24x8 channel bonding which with DOCSIS 3.0 provides current speeds up to 960Mbps downstream by 320Mbps upstream."

»www.hitron-americas.com/2012/lig···le-show/

Who knows if this is a CES style "we'll see it in a couple years" deal, but 24x8. Just saying.

That upstream number is whack though. Maybe 120 to 240 mbps upstream.

Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB

said by ravenchilde:

said by Doonz:

said by kevinds:

The modems can bond 4 upstream channels, and 4 or 8 downstream channels.

More than enough.

-Posted from my phone.

Take that Back Its never enough!!!!!!

New modem in the wild:
"The Puma6-MG supports 24x8 channel bonding which with DOCSIS 3.0 provides current speeds up to 960Mbps downstream by 320Mbps upstream."

»www.hitron-americas.com/2012/lig···le-show/

Who knows if this is a CES style "we'll see it in a couple years" deal, but 24x8. Just saying.

That upstream number is whack though. Maybe 120 to 240 mbps upstream.

Pfft Not even 1gbit Lame
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:2
reply to Doonz

Very true...

Edit:

It is more than enough right now.


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB

said by kevinds:

Very true...

Edit:

It is more than enough right now.

Its never enough.

ShawX

join:2012-02-08
reply to ShawX

Yeah I know speed tests are somewhat irrelevant but that's what every Shaw tech wants you to try 1st

Anyway even with Giganews on a 50 connection account I am lucky to hit 150mbits and have it steady.. Watching perf. mon and NetMeter I don't even break 170mbits ever even when it spikes.

PC isn't an issue at all I can transfer from internal servers at 960mbits all day.


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB

said by ShawX:

Yeah I know speed tests are somewhat irrelevant but that's what every Shaw tech wants you to try 1st

Anyway even with Giganews on a 50 connection account I am lucky to hit 150mbits and have it steady.. Watching perf. mon and NetMeter I don't even break 170mbits ever even when it spikes.

PC isn't an issue at all I can transfer from internal servers at 960mbits all day.

Hmm kinda like when i said i had to have 2 providers because one usenet provider couldnt do it....

ShawX

join:2012-02-08

2 edits
reply to ShawX

Giganews/Supernews with 80 connections now and can't get passed 180mbps spikes in the early AM. (Could be that it is the same provider?)

Running out of ideas on what to try, lol. Used to pull consistent 220mbps before Feb 14th. Astaweb+Giganews is the next test I guess.


kevinds

join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:2

Giganews owns/bought Supernews


Doonz

join:2010-11-27
Beaumont, AB
reply to ShawX

Yeah Giga and super are one of the same.

I use Astra and super. I split the total connection between both their eu and us servers as well

Just to add. When your using usenet are you downloads unraring on the same hdd that the other downloads are completing too? I found that moving that directory onto a ssd made some differences in my speed as well


ravenchilde

join:2011-04-01
kudos:2

said by Doonz:

Yeah Giga and super are one of the same.

I've been lead to believe that Giga and Astraweb are the only two real usenet providers selling service. Most others are Giga resellers.

Anyone have more facts on that?


XT0RT
S3x, Drugs, War

join:2001-07-28
Edmonton, AB

»www.newsgroupservers.net/newsgro···esellers

That tells you who is a reseller and who isn't.


ravenchilde

join:2011-04-01
kudos:2

said by XT0RT:

»www.newsgroupservers.net/newsgro···esellers

That tells you who is a reseller and who isn't.

Nice list, some people are missing, like Astraweb.


XT0RT
S3x, Drugs, War

join:2001-07-28
Edmonton, AB

1 edit

Dunno why they missed out on Astraweb. I'm currently using NewsDemon, which is peered through Highlands. My guess is that the big three are based in the U.S., while Astraweb is based out of Singapore (even though they have servers in the U.S.)