Topic 'Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies' in forum 'Photos of Broadband gear' - dslreports.com

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Fri, 02 Mar 2012 20:25:27 EDT

DarkLogix posted : ya sorry for the typo

in that location there wasn't any issue with the tiles and fiberglass (unless you wanted to actually get to it)

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Fri, 02 Mar 2012 11:11:33 EDT

tomdlgns posted : i assume you mean couldn't

yeah, i don't mind if they are hidden or not, as long as having them above drop ceiling tiles didnt hurt the coverage. i suppose it might not matter all that much.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Fri, 02 Mar 2012 10:52:46 EDT

DarkLogix posted : back were I worked before we installed cisco 1242 access points in the ceiling so you couldn't see them at all in normal use

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:12:44 EDT

calvinj posted : we are pretty spread out as it is. For the most part we don't roam between access points. I do have a new building that has two of them in the building and they cover it well. We currently have 3 SSIDs being broadcasted.

1 - Primary Staff (WPA2-PSK)
2 - Staff Wep (128 bit WEP, We have some older devices)
3 - Guest Wifi

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:10:04 EDT

tomdlgns posted : yes, thank you.

do you have it setup as 1 SSID so that users can bounce between them while keeping an active connection?

i am thinking 1 sonic-point might cover my entire office, but if i had to have two of them, i'd like to have the same SSID so the users doesnt have to bounce back and forth if they are back and forth between offices (within our building).

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:05:58 EDT

calvinj posted : Is this what your looking for?

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:26:00 EDT

tomdlgns posted : right, it wont look terribly bad, but still, the flush look would have been better, what was sonicwall thinking?

do you have a picture of your sonicwall firewall with the sonic point section/tab active? i would like to see what that looks like.

i am running an NSA 2400

a screen shot of the sonicpoint/station status would be nice.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:19:41 EDT

calvinj posted : On the side. Sorry. Actually I installed them on the ceiling tiles and it doesn't look that bad. Only 2in or less of ethernet sticking out of the ceiling.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:36:10 EDT

tomdlgns posted : please tell me those sonic points have a way to connect to the network on the bottom of the device....????

we are planning on installing those in our office later this year and i was going to mount them on drop ceiling tiles. i won't be able to have that clean look if i have to have the wire sticking out of the side like that.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:06:24 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Ya you went right to Layer10

just a refresh
Layer8=end user
Layer9=end user's boss
Layer10=athority outside of the company(government genrally)
Layer11=laws of science

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:16:19 EDT

HELLFIRE posted : ...riiiight, I forgot that one DarkLogix :D

Regards

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:01:21 EDT

DarkLogix posted : layer9 = managment

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:29:43 EDT

HELLFIRE posted : Politics, money or personnel? :D

Regards

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:35:35 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

said by calvinj:

Layer 8 & 9 get me everytime

Layer 8 isn't a big deal much, its layer 9 that kills me

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:37:44 EDT

calvinj posted : Layer 8 & 9 get me everytime

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:04:26 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

said by sk1939:

Then their jobs would be made redundant if workers could manage themselves. Besides, they lose the fun of micromanaging things then.

Funny thing is that before the last big musical managment the office I'm in had the highest user satisfaction rate

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:03:20 EDT

DarkLogix posted :

said by TomS_:

said by DarkLogix:

if it were up to me I'd have the 4200EX (ok really I'd have a 3750X) do the intervlan routing

I would just come in late one night, re-configure the network, and wait until people notice how much better its working, then say "I told you so!". :-)

But, dislike managers that think they know the best way to configure the network - if that were the case, why bother even hiring any engineers/technicians - seems the manager can handle it all! Managers should stick to managing, not dictating. :-)

Its the head of one section of IT that made that ruling (our IT is split into a few sections)

If I came in and fixed it they'd likely be ticked off so fast

those pesky Layer9 issues can be impossible to fix (or atleast fix and stay employed)

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:27:30 EDT

sk1939 posted : Then their jobs would be made redundant if workers could manage themselves. Besides, they lose the fun of micromanaging things then.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:17:33 EDT

TomS_ posted :

said by DarkLogix:

if it were up to me I'd have the 4200EX (ok really I'd have a 3750X) do the intervlan routing

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:23:36 EDT

DarkLogix posted : ya we had setup nic load balancing but then just by random occurance at the same time symantec messed up and the nic load balancing was initialy blamed and when symantec was fixed the nic load balancing wasn't put back yet

and with the file/folder redirection (desktop/My documents/ect) being moved to the file server and then synced there are some throughput issues but we'd need to move the intervlan routing and thats just not going to happen

good companies shouldn't offload most of their main office IT work to contractors and then they shouldn't hire the contractors that lead them down a bad path.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:16:04 EDT

sk1939 posted : It makes sense rather than taxing the router, but they should migrate it to the switch realistically, since CEF can handle routing much easier than a process-based router.

That isn't set up all ready? I think that nic load balancing is one of the most important things on a mission critical server.

I have it set up a little differently at home. I have a 2811 that does NAT and basic firewall, which feeds a Layer 2 switch. Inter-vlan routing is handled in Hyper-V by Vyatta (previously handled by Nexus 1000V). I don't use my Layer 3 switches for anything other than as a test bed, due to noise and power requirements (not to mention lack of gigabit ports).

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:01:34 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Ya, oh well higher ups want the SRX to do intervlan routing

if it were up to me I'd have the 4200EX (ok really I'd have a 3750X) do the intervlan routing

and I'd have nic teaming setup on all the servers, as well as on the ESXi hosts

at home I have a NME-16ES-1G-P doing my intervlan routing and its linked to my 2960G via gig (though if I had a 3750G at home I'd let it take over, or if it didn't have rudundant power I'd get the stackwise etherswitch) (I wish I could justify buying a NME-XD-48ES-2S-P to replace my NME-16ES-1G-P)

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:57:19 EDT

sk1939 posted : 1711...that's a blast from the past. I still have a 1720 floating around somewhere.

That's not surprising, especially if your pushing gigabit to the SRX (depending on the model). The lack of large files helps; we image from the servers so that wouldn't work for us.

It would, which is why the 4506's/3750's handle the inter-vlan routing for most applications.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:34:21 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Previously we had a cisco 1711 that handled it flawlessly, of course that was a flat network so it didn't have any intervlan routing

and atleast due to the topology data from one vlan to another is greatly limited by the srx, and its at near max load 24/7 and the srx is crazy bogged down

luckily not many send large files offten to the fileserver as that will bog the SRX to a crawl and slow all other traffic

really it would be way better if the EX4200's did the inter-vlan routing

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:07:01 EDT

sk1939 posted : Well the nice thing is that the SRX's can handle it, the Juniper (and Cisco) routers get bogged down with lots of services; NAT and Firewall/IDS especially are killers.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:00:38 EDT

DarkLogix posted : well I'll give them cheaper they sure are built dirt cheap
the lack of throughput might be more of higher ups picking a dumb network design (they claim it'll allow them to more easily lock down the network)

ok so the switches are layer3 switches capable of doing great (in theory) intervlan routing right? well forget that the SRX is doing the inter vlan routing

so we're limited on traffic between vlans, all the computers are connected to the switches at gig but so is the router and the router is doing the inter vlan routing, and of course the SRX is also doing the firewall/nat and a vpn to a remote site, so its at fairly high load all the time

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:34:58 EDT

sk1939 posted : That's what I figured. Juniper routers are used on a large scale though (for better or worse) since they have higher throughput that Cisco's equipment, and are cheaper in some cases.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:31:09 EDT

DarkLogix posted : Juniper router's I've seen so far have only been slightly less bad
the juniper router hasn't crached taking down the office I'm in yet, but it has at another office (weekly)

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:10:42 EDT

sk1939 posted : For switches maybe.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:01:51 EDT

calvinj posted :

said by DarkLogix:

You got it wrong
Juniper is the devil
Netgear is his sidekick

True Dat

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:57:26 EDT

DarkLogix posted : You got it wrong
Juniper is the devil
Netgear is his sidekick

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:30:06 EDT

calvinj posted : Netgear is the devil. We tried to setup one the other night for a buddy and it just would not work to save it's life. I also have one at home in my lab and what a cluster fuck that is. Using the GUI don't bother.. Using the CLI.. Painful. Makes me want to go out and cause gratuitous violence

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:00:19 EDT

DarkLogix posted : I know, but the 3 switch netgear stack (btw I do mean stack they had a stacking cable type link) was far more reliable than the junipers

messing with vlan configs on them was total crap and super easy to forget to hold ctrl and accedently clear a part of the config (so we pretty much didn't use vlans on the netgears)

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:12:16 EDT

Paulg posted : Netgear stack?!? *shudders*

I recently ripped 50 netgears out of a customers... In the process of verifying VLAN configs on the existing gear, we were repeatedly forced to click OK to this lovely message.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:01:49 EDT

DarkLogix posted : I prefer cisco over juniper but higher ups wanted juniper even though a cisco 3750G (or X which ever was current at the time) would have saved over 1000 per switch and gotten all the same features (poe, dual power supplies(without having to order the 2nd as another line item), 48gig ports, 2 10gig capable ports, ect)

the juniper WXC (wan accelarator actually slows the wan to a crawl so its basicly fully disabled)

the only thing that was good was that it allowed us to get rid of the netgear stack (but other than that no improvment)

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:53:28 EDT

sk1939 posted : I remember the last time I used it, it lacked the level of detail that I was used to, it was clearly intended to be web managed. Again, maybe they changed it.

True. One of the focuses for the client that had the PowerConnects was pushing wire speed gigabit to the desktop for voice and data. That was also around 2008, so quite some time has passed since then.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:43:51 EDT

sk1939 posted : I've heard that, we mostly use Cisco and HP for switching fortunately. Some of Juniper's latest issues have me questioning their reliability, like that bad BGP/OS update that brought down Level 3 (»www.truedigitalsecurity.com/blog···nternet/).

It is isn't it? I personally prefer Brocade over Juniper, but alas that's not where the corporate focus is.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:06:50 EDT

calvinj posted : I think the CLI is pretty powerful on the ones that we have (3500, 5400, 6200). About the only thing I use the gui for anymore is to look at address tables.

We haven't had speed issues with ours, but then again we are a small manufacturing company of about 50 total users

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:57:47 EDT

DarkLogix posted : I've got to say I'm unhappy with the juniper EX 4200's (bought in mid 2010)
in the first few weeks they crashed repeatedly, one of the times required loading new software via serial, the last "solution" has been to upgrade to the latest software just to make them stable and yet the web interface and the telnet interface still crash (atleast their main use, ie ethernet switching, has been stable now)

its a sad thing with some crappy netgears out do a $30,000 switch stack.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:23:12 EDT

sk1939 posted : I have to say that I haven't been happy with the PowerConnects; I much prefer HP, Juniper, or Cisco switches.

The biggest issue I've had with them is the lack of CLI management, and the packet forwarding rate tends to be on the low side (can't push wire speed Gig with a forwarding rate <100mbps). I'm sure they're better now, but at the time they were somewhat lacking in specs.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:13:01 EDT

telco_mtl posted : we have been replacing our hp switches with power connects slowly, not that we are unhappy with the HP's we just want to standardize.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:56:30 EDT

calvinj posted : Everything we have is Power Connect. Good Switches!

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Sun, 05 Feb 2012 23:55:05 EDT

warwick posted : Phew... glad to know I'm not the only one who uses powerconnects (poe versions) to get the job done. :)

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:36:01 EDT

Edrick posted : I wish Sonicwall would pass on already, I've never heard anything good about their WiFi solutions.

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:58:03 EDT

calvinj posted : We have a few floating around. It's not perfect, but they do a good job

Re: New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:15:31 EDT

sk1939 posted : I didn't even know Sonicwall made access points.

New Switch Gear / Various Goodies

Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:33:18 EDT

calvinj posted : We'll I'm thinking it's time to post up some of the stuff we do over on DSL reports too.

Christmas came a bit late this year. We have a new building to wire up and connect back to the main building.

[att=1]

New Power Connect 3548p.
[att=2]

Tripp-Lite Patch Panels going over there too

[att=3]

Couple of Sonic Points to give wireless.

[att=4]

Waiting on a couple of loose ends to finish up, but it looks like we'll be putting up some point to point wifi to connect up the buildings