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Packeteers
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VPN Review websights

i'm shopping for a vpn service, especially for my torrent'ing.
when you google "vpn reviews" you get dozens of sights that
claim to rank and review, then link you to the vpn resellers.

are any of these sights more objective than others and actually
benchmark test some vpn services - or are all just click whores

if you think one reviewer or service is better than another,
please provide a name i can google, since i'm not sure dslr
likes us linking to them from this forum.

so far vpnsp appears to have real tests and reviews,
but you never know as even they can be simulated.
based on their test, it seems download and latency
penalty of using a VPN service is pretty universal.
I hope I find one that does not disconnect often.

BTW - I'm aware there are FREE VPN list sights,
I tried a couple, and their performance is lame.
I'd rather pay like $5-10/mo to set it an forget it,
and I don't want to host a VPN/Encryptor on my
own PC, since it's a weak 5 year old Pentium4.


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What is it you're trying to accomplish by using a VPN service? Are you thinking that by using one you'll become anonymous in the event that someone such as the RIAA objects to what you are hosting or downloading? If so, the VPN service will turn over your information to the authorities once they receive a request from a court.



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I'm not here to justify use - just which are better and why,
as there are plenty of SOPA forums you can go vent on.

so far strongvpn is my early favorite, but i'm looking into
btguard because i only want to proxy my torrent traffic,
not take a download/latency hit on gaming and streaming.


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I'm not judging you and I'm not venting. I was just trying to make sure you understood that even if you use a VPN service that people can still find you if they want to. I've never used a VPN service but I've read a few things about hidemyass.com. It might be something you want to look into.



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thanks for your concern - and yes i'm aware nothing is DARPA'proof.

my concern began when i switched my ISP from Verizion to TWCable.
on Verizon i could renew to a different dynamic IP anytime I liked,
while on TWCable a specific IP is always bound to my modem's MAC.
TWCable is also known for shaping and throttling heavy P2P traffic,
so I just want some anonymity when I torrent a TV show I missed.

you make a good point about VPN reliablity
»www.guavi.com/ and »checkmytorrentip.com/
that's an application just to keep your VPN honest

i read about hidemyass already; many reviewers suffer disconnects,
but i guess that could be just that end users condition or reviewer
sabotage from another provider... strongvpn claims more servers
however only their higher cost plans give you access to them all.

so the hunt goes on...

here's one way i may be able to get an unbiased review;
»www.google.com/products/seller?c···n&sort=1
when people pay with google checkout, they are solicited
to leave a review - so these are real customers, not spoofs.

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READ NEXT POST - THIS DOES NOT TURN OUT WELL

I found something called: torrentprivacy which has a torrent
solution that does not penalize your other web applications,
but it's as expensive as many total private VPN solutions.

OK, I spent more time studying torrentprivacy and discovered
they offer 2 applications, one that encrypts and anonymizeIP
your torrents, and another that vpn tunnels all your traffic.
what i like is you can chose to run one or the other or both,
so i can torrent and play online games with the performance
hit only effecting the torrents, not the gaming. this is unlike
vpn solutions that impact all online activity. for those who
don't trust third party software, there are vpn servers who
don't require any software, and you simply adjust your own
windows network settings, but i'm really not that concerned.

I also like that I can disable both, and use my connection as
any other normal oblivious internet consumer - as doing that
occasionally may help make my connection less suspicious.
There are some forums and financial software that may get
nervous if i login without seeing my usual geographical IP.
another benefit of a software client managing these things,
is it will self monitor, so i know instantly if there is a failure.

I'm also reading a lot of VPN services actually restrict
torrent traffic, so i really want a vendor that focuses
on serving torrent traffic specifically like these guys.
cost is $32/quarter for both torrent encryption and VPN
and that price is locked in for life. I'll keep googling around
but unless i find information bashing them, i'll just get it.



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READ BOTTOM - THIS DOES NOT TURN OUT WELL

ok boys and girls;
i bought 3 months of torrentprivacy,
and have a week to beat the crap out of it
till my 7 day free trial runs out,
so i will post a well documented review
over the weekend. their online chat was
helpful in answering my questions, setup
went fast and easy for WinXP, and paying
only requires an email address and paypal,
they don't ask you any other questions




when the VPN routes my packets from USA
through the Netherlands, the performance hit
knocks off 66% of my usual download & ping,
but the real test for me will be how well my
torrents run, when i'm not using the VPN and
just using the SSH tunnel to hide my peer IP.

what's kind of fun to see when i log performance is
during primetime in NYC/USA the Euros are sleeping,
so if my packets get tunneled to Europe, I'll be
curious to see the net performance penalty.

UPDATE: just ran into a major problem i hope i can
figure out... while using this service none of the usual
torrent trackers work - all say access denied, so I need
to study this issue further. torrentprivacy gave me a list
of additional trackers, but thus far i can only get a few
of them to work while the Proxy is not in use - which
ruins the whole point of doing this... hopefully i'm just
missing something, and will get it to work better soon.
I don't mind if torrents are slower, but if tracker access
is so restricted that i can't get enough seeds:peers,
then this whole adventure was for nothing.

OK, thus far i get seed:peers from trackers only while
not using their Proxy (while on their VPN or not) so I
have to assume there's a configuration error somewhere
I'll try to iron out with their chat support soon.

I read their support forum on this no-tracker while proxy issue,
and here's a quote form the companies own forum moderator;
The servers have been going down intermittently over the
past few days, apparently. Not much to be done about that.

that does not exude much confidence... LOL
so I filed a Paypal dispute for non-delivary of services,
and we'll see how that goes... maybe I'll try BTGuard next


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said by Packeteers:

so far strongvpn is my early favorite, but i'm looking into btguard because i only want to proxy my torrent traffic, not take a download/latency hit on gaming and streaming.

 
StrongVPN is one of the best VPN services available. However, if you use StrongVPN for torrent'ing your account is likely to be closed very fast. StrongVPN should only be used for legal traffic.

I suggest you take a look at VPNtunnel.se.

It's a VPN provider in Sweden in the European Union. Sweden is one of the few countries in the world without any legal requirements for storing traffic logs. The parliament refuses to accept any law requiring traffic logs for ISPs.

VPNtunnel.se don't keep log files. Also, they don't ask for your name - no questions asked. Monthly rate is 5 EUR ($6.60 USD) with no contract, you can also pay for a longer period and get a discount.

The service works like a charm.

EDIT: All usual torrent trackers work fine with VPNtunnel.se
 
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Arne - it's helpful to know which VPN service is torrent friendly,
and I have read most of the big names discourage torrent'ing.
so I guess the benefit of BTGuard is I may be able to enjoy
better bandwidth/latency using that, then VPN'ing to europe.

torrentprivacy's Netherland's based VPN does work fine,
but I fear a Sweden based VPN will be the same penelty,
which is why I'm still hoping to find a Proxy, not a VPN,
but if Proxy's only serve to block trackers, then I guess
I'll have to satisfy myself with a VPN.

please correct me if anything I wrote is wrong.

so if Paypal refunds my torrentprivay payment,
I'll try 3 months with VPNtunnel.se next, and if
not, i'll just use torrentprivacy VPN to torrent
until my 3 month has expires (and I will cancel
their auto-renewal on my Paypal account).

Arne - would you mind posting a speedtest.net
result while using VPNtunnel.se - that would help.
$18 is a much cheaper 3 months than $32 I paid,
assuming Sweden's performance hit is not great.



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Sweden and the Netherlands are very close to each other, so no difference regarding latency.

Anyway, with torrent'ing latency is never an issue. The 65 ms over the Atlantic doesn't matter when downloading or torrent'ing.

The bandwidth is also excellent with VPNtunnel.

But the most important thing is anonymity when torrent'ing and that's the one reason why you should use VPNtunnel. Never use a proxy for torrent'ing, at least not for less legal torrent's.
 
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Arne - I bought a month of vpntunnel for $6.80

many more trackers work through it than before.
I'll try various servers they port me through to
determine best download-ping, but so far from
Sweden it's not any better than torrentprivacy,
but it's primetime on my cabletv isp, so to be
fair, i'll run a set of various tests on Tuesday.

off my 15.0/0.5 ISP: these tests emanate from Sweden;




when I emanate their USA server who's IP is located in Jersey
I get about half my usual download speed and double my
usual latency - which is still twices as good as Sweden.
using the USA server is fine for doing my torrents, since
I only need to appear to emanate from Europe to get at
websights that are blocked to American visitors like isoHunt.





as an experiment I torrented 1GB of a popular DVD
and a popular TV Show with dozens of seed:peers
and got a respectable 500kb/s avg download speed,
which is about half what I usually get unprotected

the best part is while watching sniffers hitting my IP
on peerblock - i have not seen a single TWCable ping,
which is exactly what I'm mostly trying to avoid now.
when I was torrenting naked - TWCable was flooding
me with pings from various content and isp companies.
now my peerblock log looks like it did back when I was
using Verizon aDSL to torrent naked - and all I saw
were a few curious telecom and university pings.

one nice bonus with vpntunnel, is peerblock
does not conflict with it, which may not be
needed (since other websights are pinging
an IP which is not really me) but gives me
piece of mind just to know who's snooping.

the only downside so far with vpntunnel is it
requires you to install microsoft .net framework,
which i had avoided till now for security reasons.

the one thing i notice with both VPN's is torrent
gets majority of it's traffic from seeds not peers,
which may be a problem with no/low seeded files.
I'll test a few of those tomorrow as well


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Thanks for the update. I don't do torrents so I have almost no experience in that area. I got the information about torrents and VPNtunnel from other users.

Actually I did once use BitTorrent to get a Linux image, torrent was the only option. It took so long time I gave up before it was finished.
 
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said by Packeteers:

the only downside so far with vpntunnel is it requires you to install microsoft .net framework,
which i had avoided till now for security reasons.

 
You don't need to use the software from VPNtunnel, any OpenVPN client will work.
 
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can you recommend a free OpenVPN client that does not leave a console task window on your toolbar like the rest of your open apps, but rather only uses and icon in the notification area by your time clock and LAN connection icon? will I still be able to select which server the Swedes emanate my packets to, whether it make me appear as though I'm from a Europe or USA origin IP? those are my two main concerns for pursuing a generic OpenVPN client over the one included by the Swedes. It may help if the Swedes know of and will support the OpenVPN client you suggest just in case there is a technical issue later or with it's initial setup.



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I don't use Windows, but I have installed the Windows version of the OpenVPN client from
»openvpn.net/index.php/open-sourc···ads.html
for several Windows users.

This OpenVPN client has a small icon in the notification area.

The client from VPNtunnel.se makes it easier to switch between servers. With the above OpenVPN client you just add the different servers manually in the client and after that you can make your choice by clicking on the server you want. Works very well.

The server you use is the location others see, no matter what OpenVPN client you use.

The OpenVPN client from Openvpn.net is the most used client and it works like a charm. I don't think you will have any issues. Also, by using this client you can add several different VPN providers to the client. No need for different client programs.
 
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I'll look into this, but I doubt I'll use OpenVPN.net's client.

I Read their TOS and it appears they want your info,
keep logs and cooperate with authorities, which may
defeat the whole purpose of me VPN'ing my torrents.

In the meantime, I'll learn about what info I need and
get it from Swedish support - then I can pursue this
on my own with a more anonymously sourced client.

Thanks for expanding my awareness of this service



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I think you have misread their ToS.

OpenVPN is an open source technology and Openvpn.net is their project site. The software, both server and client, are open source.

They have no way of logging your use of the client. Because as it's open source it's not possible to build any tracking without the open source community discovering it.

Anyone running the server software can of course log their users activity. Most VPN services do log their customers activity because they are required to do so by law.

From legal point of view a VPN provider is the same as an ordinary ISP, both offer an internet connection. If an ISP in NY must keep log files, a VPN provider must also do so.

If you care for your anonymity you should only use VPNtunnel's servers in Sweden for torrent'ing, do not use their servers in US, Netherlands and Denmark.

Both Sweden and Germany refuse to require logging of internet activity.

Denmark has an extensive logging of internet traffic, everything you do is logged by the government. In 2010 this amounted to an average of over one hundred thousands records per person in Denmark. So torrent'ing from Denmark is the worst thing you can do.

The Netherlands also do logging, although not so extensive as in Denmark. Also a no-go country for torrent'ing.

USA is also a bad place for torrent'ing. You never know when MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) or RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) will hit the data center with a court order.

Your safest place for torrent'ing is currently Sweden. Now I don't know what kind of torrent'ing you do, but I assume it's something RIAA and MPAA might dislike.
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I like to add that VPNtunnel.se makes it very clear that the no-logging policy only applies to servers physically located in Sweden. On all other servers there are logging of traffic, including users original IP addresses.
 
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Arne - thanks for all the feedback, I'm learning a lot here.

two observations another day in to using this VPN.
euro performance halved, speeds seem to vary a lot,
while their USA server keeps delivering same speeds.

I saw another VPN's client that gives you a live ping
to each of their servers to help you pick the best one.
shame they can't do that with this customized client.
I would attach to each server and trace rout to try
to find which outside of USA server was working best.
»whatismyipaddress.com/
their Russian server thinks I'm in California, and their
German server think I'm off the coast of Africa - LOL

My vpntunnel.se support email inquiry goes unanswered.

Paypal held the $32 I wasted trying torrentprivacy,
so hopefully they'll fully refund that money soon.

TWCable did someone odd recently. I kept the VPN running
overnight to the USA server, and pinged a generic IP address
every 10 seconds. when I woke up the VPN was still going
and functional, yet TWCable rerouted me completely at 4am
for some odd reason, and the rerouting is still active even
after I power cycle my modem and not use the VPN at all.
I just hope it's common practice to maintain their network,
and not in reaction to my use of a VPN. so far peerblock
shows TWCable sniffing around less, so I'm happy for now.



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Speeds can vary a lot on the Swedish servers, as they for obvious reasons are popular among the torrent people.

It's likely the US server has little torrent'ing.
 
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someone in private has been discussing the use of a seedbox
which essentially allows you to manage torrents off a remote
server, then download them using FTP and/or an SSH tunnel.

the idea is you only use your tunnel bandwidth to get the
100% finished file, not for hosting any of the seed:peers.

once i get my $32 back, I may explore that next
I'm really not a hard core torrent guy, I'm doing this
more to learn about current IP traffic security options,
as that's the "growth industry" of computer consulting.



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after 3 days using various VPN servers offerred by the Swedes,
I decided to try another popular product that focuses on torrent
by providing a proxy+encryption only for torrent addressing, so it's
not the "my IP is in another country with net neutrality" solution,
but the hope is "what my ISP don't know, won't hurt me" of proxy.
I know proxy even with encryption has flaws, but bare with me;

I paid $7/mo for BTGuard alone (not their extra VPN service)
all they require is any username password and then you paypal.
within 5min my name/pw worked on their system, and i first
tried manually configuring my utorrent 2.2.1, but ended up with
the same problem I had with torrentprivacy - useless trackers.

however BTGuard provides an idiot proof installer that gives
you the latest torrent client of your choice and configures it.
once i downloaded ran for utorrent, and put in my name/pw
the whole thing set up well. i then rebooted just for good
measure, and started new and preconfigured utorrent 3.1.2
no other software agent is running, and i'm using my primary
TWCable IP, so I can surf play games day trade, and as far
as the rest of my connection is concerned, i'm just doing a
lot of downloading of encrypted data on proxy coated IPs.

So here's the great news. with utorrent i'm now able to
download at FULL Bandwidth, which I throttle at 900:9kb/s
using the VPN, my best speeds were under 150:9kb/s so
this is a huge difference. I do admit that trackers are still
a minor problem, which can be resolved if you know how to
add more good trackers manually - I cut&paste a list I keep.
this also means the low seed:peer files may not work here,
so if your book club wants you to read something on torrent
with a lot of peers but only a part time seeder, you may be
out of luck while using BTGuard - again, no big deal for me.

what I call the "clamping time" of how long do your many
trackers latch on to seed:peers, will take more time with
BTGuard, so be patient at first... once the connections
are established, it will be smooth sailing after that.
A minor thing is while torrent is running, and you open
your browser, the initial "resolving proxy" on startup may
take a few seconds longer before your home page loads,
at least that is what I noticed with google.com in chrome.

an occasional problem is when you add torrents using files,
it's fine, but if you cut&paste to add torrent from URL this
may not work unless you stop all your torrents, disable
the proxy, then add the URL, enable your proxy, then
restart all your torrents - a hassle, but still worth it.
I don't know if this is technically true, but it feels right;
because the torrent proxy and my browser proxy are
now different, I find my browser responds much better
even while I'm torrenting 80% of my total bandwidth.
even my game clients don't seem to notice torrents.

Now here is the best news of all... I can run PeerBlock
enabled the whole time, and not only do I get far fewer
sniffers then using a VPN, but so far not a single TWCable
related sniffer has looked at my IP - this is the main reason
I did all this in the first place - to make sure I can keep my
ISP off my back over whatever little torrenting I may do.
It's worth noting that PeerBlock can block LeaseWeb which
is a well known net neutral source of Seedbox file hosting,
so PeerBlock may keep a good source of seed:peers away,
as SeedBox'ing grows in popularity at hiding torrent hosts.
If you whitelist LeaseWeb 85.17.0.0 - 85.17.255.255 that
may get rid of most of the SeedBox blocks on Peerblock,
thus allowing you to keep it enabled. more accurate info;
»betterinfotech.blogspot.com/2010···-in.html

Obviously, this is first impression during non-primetime hours,
so I will update this thread in a week, and continue to play
with my VPN on weekends when maybe it will work faster,
but I hope my own saga can benefit some DSLR readers
confused by all the biased reviews and claims on this subject.
I have yet to try seedbox or magnet links, but if BTGuard
works consistently, I may not bother with new methods.

oh, and a special shout out to RARPSL for helping me figure
out how to change my TWCable public IP address, and this;
»www.cableforum.co.uk/board/94/33···ess.html
for teaching me a few other DHCP tricks to renew my IP,
as I got a fresh public IP before trying BTGuard to make
sure any TWCable sniffs were not inherited from before.

UPDATE: BTGuard continues to perform better than a VPN
but somehow performance is not constant as a file with
many seed:peers can still go slow compared to how fast
it was without any safeguards. since it will sometimes
perk up and go half my bandwidth capacity, it's all good.
VPN was slow, but it's flow seemed a lot more consistent.
at this point I'd rather have intermittent speed rates with
good seed:peer connections, since the better my trackers
find seeds, the more confident I am to eventually get 100%
of the file i want, even if it takes a few more hours or days.

i ran the following test that my indicate throttling is being
done on BTGuard. trying to get a 1gb 20seed:20peer file
for a day at 30kb/s avg download, i closed utorrent, went
into my USA VPN, opened utorrent but disabled BTGuard's
proxy. and within 5 minutes I was downloading 300kb/s or
10x faster than with BTGuard. peerblock is going crazy with
all the sniffers, but it's sniffing my VPN's IP not me. to be
fair I have to run more such test to see if maybe a few key
trackers are not resolving while on BTGuard, so it's not a
throttling issue, rather trackers refusing to work while proxy.
Either way, it may be wise to pay for BOTH a Proxy and VPN,
since when one alone seems slow, the other alone may help.



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interesting no sponcer biased list i found;

»pastehtml.com/view/1dzybe3.html

a more elaborate list that may be biased;

»vpnreviewz.com/

odd how they avoid reviewing BTGuard,
while including so many paid VPN & Proxy

»myvpnreviews.com/

can't tell if this place is biased - more like a popularity
contest with vpn's potentially reviewing themselves

VPNTunnel has been hit or miss performance so
when my Month with them expires, I'll might try
»www.ibvpn.com/
$5 torrent allowed unlimited.
this is in addition to BTGuard.
so I'll use BTGuard alone for recent poplar torrents,
(since many trackers don't allow proxy connections)
and IBVPN for old low seed poorly tracked torrents.
(where all trackers work, but at lower VPN speeds.

if anyone has better ideas, please chime in

I continue to dislike VPNTunnel more and more,
as their big resource hog client does not even
tell you which server is least congested, and
it's very cumbersome to keep trying different
VPN servers till you find one that's stable.
I'll get a IBVPN account next week, so I can
compare the two VPN's back to back before
my VPNTunnel Month expires.

BTGuard continues to impress on well seeded
torrents, but it drops half your trackers so
I will still need a VPN to get older torrents.

here's another semi-biased VPN review sight;

»www.vpnhero.com/



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Privacy policy – a comment
VPNtunnel.se is based in Sweden and has been providing encrypted VPN connections since 2008. Sweden is a great country, it has some of the strongest personal integrity protection by law in the world. This is the reason that VPNtunnel.se has been able to provide the service without to keep logs, swedish law do not require us to do so. In fact, it is possible that swedish law actually prohibits us to keep logs due to the way our billing cycle is setup. Anyway, to summarize, the fact that we own and manage all our swedish servers ourselves in a 10 Gbps datacenter, combined with the swedish law, is what enables us to provide a qualitative and secure service.

This post aims to clarify our updated privacy policy. A touch of transparency.

Why is the privacy policy updated?
As you can see, we have updated our privacy policy: »www.vpntunnel.se/en/privacypolicy.php

The update is that we now need to keep certain logs from our non swedish servers. This is because many users have requested us to launch more servers across the world, and this is not a bad idea since it allows all users to bypass geo blocks etc. However, when we have physical servers in other jurisdictions, even though the judicial situation is everything but clear, it is possible that we are subject to these other countries laws, more specific, data retention laws. As it is our ambition to provide the service on a long term basis, obviously it is not an option to systematically break the countries in which we keep our dedicated servers laws.

Our options were, not to launch servers in other countries than Sweden and continue with our no logging policy, or to launch servers in other countries and continue with our no logging policy only on our swedish servers, we chose the latter one.

If you use other VPN providers from time to time who are not based in Sweden, you should ask yourself what their logging policy looks like. If they say that they do not log anything, they probably either lie or break the law. If not, it would be valuable to learn about their setup.

How does this affect your use of the service?
As you can see in our privacy policy, we apply a no logging policy on all swedish servers, and a 30 day logging policy on the other servers. At this point, it is important to remember a few of things:

- On all swedish servers, there is still a NO LOGGING policy.

- We do not monitor any traffic what so ever. On the non swedish machines we store ip addresses and time stamps of login and logout.

- It is not important from where you connect, what is important is to which server you connect. For example: a person from UAE who connects to a swedish server is subject to the swedish no logging policy. A person from Sweden who connects to a US server is subject to the logging policy.

So basically, if you are looking for security and personal integrity you connect to our swedish servers.


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Arne, what's your point?
plenty of VPN's that allow torrent traffic
have similar policies, just as IBVPN does.
»www.ibvpn.com/privacy-policy.html
I got an email VPNTunnel is discounting
it's 1-2yr signup rates, and besides I'd
much rather have a Eastern European
based VPN who will ignore Americans
and their intrusive law enforcement.

I know you use VPNTunnel, but don't
be so sure they are the best out there
as this industry has evolve a lot in 2011
as it's customer base more than doubled.
BTW VPNTunnel never got back to me
about their server list so I could manually
configure VPN in Win'2K instead of using
their clunky .NET client. ignoring support
emails gives me little confidence with them.

one thing i do admire about VPNTunnel is
you simply pay with paypal directly, they
only ask for an account name/pw email.
IBVPN asks more than I'm comfortable with

this thread is getting pretty useless anyway,
since it's just you and me debating things,
nobody else here can be bothered to post.



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Actually, I use an American VPN provider - a provider who prohibits illegal downloads of film and music.

In my eyes VPNtunnel is not the best VPN provider. But I use VPN for security when using WiFi, mobile internet and networks not under my control. I have no need for illegal downloading.

However, for those who want to use a VPN provider for torrent and other activities not entirely legal, may find that using the VPNtunnel's Swedish servers may be a good protection.

Also, I wanted to point out that VPNtunnel do logging on servers outside of Sweden.
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Zaii

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reply to Packeteers

Thanks for posting all of your results. I've been thinking of using btguard or some type of vpn along with my utorrent.



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Zaii - i've updated my opinions since this thead here;
»[Newsgroups] Thoughts on VPN Services

in a nutshell:
Paypal finally refunded the $32 I wasted on torrentprivacy
I uninstalled vpntunnel's .NET client and stopped using them.
I did not get ibvpn - they wanted too much info at signup

I continue to like BTGuard, but will not renew* with them.
(higher cost and security, but half my trackers won't proxy)
I ended up getting linkideo VPN, and will stay with them.
(lowest cost, security not perfect**, but all trackers work)

If you want a simple secure solution and torrent mostly
currently popular tv movies and porn, BTGuard is great
with files that have many active seed:peers.

If you need to torrent older more obscure files that have
few or regional trackers (like asian stuff) then get a VPN,
since getting a file may take days off part time seeders.

if you get linkideo their €2 is PPTP and €5 is OpenVPN, so
you get better security in addition to 4x download capacity.
I would not bother getting their unlimited, since their low
cost plans are already faster than unlimited competitors.
on linkideo only torrent their German/Netherland servers,
not their French, UK or US servers.

* if BTGuard has some deep discount promotion, I may rejoin them.

** PPTP client drops VPN exposing your real IP while torrenting.
paying more to use OpenVPN may greatly reduce this problem.


Zaii

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With btguard do you have to download their version of utorrent, or can I just pop in their ip address in my existing copy?



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at first i tried their directions to apply the proxy to 2.2.1
and it did not work, so i downloaded their copy of 3.1.2
but i suspect any 3.x version will work with their proxy.
try applying their changes to your existing utorrent, since
they can easily be undone or made inactive. if it don't work,
I suggest you start with their download just to make sure
you see it working, then later if you want to apply their
proxy to an already installed version, you can since I have
more than one versions installed on my PC as well.

one other downside of btguard vs a euro/VPN is;
I suspect btguard proxy is through Canada, which means
primetime in USA is the slowest time for Canada too.
a euro/VPN may actually be faster since all the traffic
on their end takes place while they are all sleeping.
but this is just my own private observation while comparing
the two side by side, it may have little basis in fact

the upside of btguard is in the month i've used it daily,
it has never once leaked - and not a single tracker has
tried to sniff my public IP during or even after using it.


Zaii

join:2008-09-03
Philadelphia, PA

Sounds good, I think I'll give btguard a shot.

Thanks