Topic '[STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box business?' in forum 'Comcast Cable TV' - dslreports.com

Comcast's RDK speeds development of new devices

Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:53:15 EDT

telcodad posted : An MCN article on how Comcast's Reference Design Kit (RDK) has helped speed up the development of new boxes:

Developers Tout Speed of Comcast's RDK
Box and App Vendors Trot Out Quick-Fire Projects as RDK Community Grows to 85-Plus Companies
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - June 14, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/distributio···k/143903

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:43:18 EDT

telcodad posted : Dave Zatz's initial report on his Zatz Not Funny! blog site about his experience at this week's Cable Show:

The Cable Show Comes To Town
By Dave Zatz, Zatz Not Funny! - June 12, 2013
»www.zatznotfunny.com/2013-06/the···to-town/

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:38:40 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by telcodad:

Like fellow Korean competitor Samsung, LG is also coming out with cable boxes (though without a CableCARD slot):

LG Enters the Cable Box Biz
Debuts Models that Blend Its NetCast OS, Google TV, and Live and On Demand Cable Video
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - June 10, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/cable-tv-co···z/143777

EDIT: Also on the CED Magazine site: »www.cedmagazine.com/news/2013/06···op-boxes

An LG press release about this:

LG ELECTRONICS UNVEILS SMART SET-TOP BOXES TO ADDRESS GROWING CONSUMER CONTENT DEMAND
New Set-Top Box Line-Up from Cable Show’s Official Smart TV Partner Marries Cable and Internet-Connectivity, Enhancing Connected Home Experience
Press Release, LG Electronics - June 10, 2013
»www.lg.com/us/press-release/cable-show

'TV Everywhere': Executives Admit TV Isn't Ubiquitous Yet

Wed, 12 Jun 2013 07:20:10 EDT

GTFan posted : »www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/1···107.html

I love this quote, hits nail on head:

“Explain to a consumer why they can get TNT in the home and they can watch a basketball game, but they can’t get it out of the home,” said Jeremy Legg, vice president of Time Warner Inc.’s Turner Broadcasting. “We need to satisfy that.”

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:36:21 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by SpHeRe31459:

said by telcodad:

One item to note is that it looks like Comcast's "AnyPlay" service will no longer be offered:

quote:
One product that isn't sticking around is Motorola's Televation box, which was initially [used] in trials with Comcast for its AnyPlay service, converting QAM video into IP streams for in-home video playback on mobile devices.

Well that makes sense, since it will be rendered moot by the X1 boxes that can do transcoding.

Yes, the XG5 box will have the same capability (transcoding with Wi-Fi): »www.lightreading.com/dvrs/comcas···40145704

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:05:37 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted :

said by telcodad:

This week's Cable Show has provided an opportunity for ARRIS to demonstrate what it can offer now after recently acquiring Motorola Home:

Arris Shows Off New Mojo
By Mari Silbey, Light Reading Cable - June 11, 2013
»www.lightreading.com/cable-modem···40156408

One item to note is that it looks like Comcast's "AnyPlay" service will no longer be offered:

quote:
One product that isn't sticking around is Motorola's Televation box, which was initially [used] in trials with Comcast for its AnyPlay service, converting QAM video into IP streams for in-home video playback on mobile devices.

Well that makes sense, since it will be rendered moot by the X1 boxes that can do transcoding.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:16:08 EDT

telcodad posted : Broadcom has announced it's new BCM3385 chipset, for use in a “headless” multiservice gateway box, that combines a 32x8 DOCSIS 3.0 chip with HEVC/H.265 encoding, MoCA 2.0 and 802.11ac Wi-Fi:

Cable Show 2013: Broadcom Video Gateway Chip Goes ‘Headless’
Multiservice Silicon Targets UltraHD Video, 1 Gig Data Capabilities
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - June 11, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/index.php?q···9/143824

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:36:25 EDT

telcodad posted : This week's Cable Show has provided an opportunity for ARRIS to demonstrate what it can offer now after recently acquiring Motorola Home:

Arris Shows Off New Mojo
By Mari Silbey, Light Reading Cable - June 11, 2013
»www.lightreading.com/cable-modem···40156408

One item to note is that it looks like Comcast's "AnyPlay" service will no longer be offered:

quote:
One product that isn't sticking around is Motorola's Televation box, which was initially [used] in trials with Comcast for its AnyPlay service, converting QAM video into IP streams for in-home video playback on mobile devices.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:27:51 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted : Looks like LG is planning on using protected DLNA from I guess a media gateway like the XG5 for some of those products. The others hinge on "Nagra’s OpenTV 5 middleware" so they're not adopting anything Comcast RDK related.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:03:37 EDT

telcodad posted : Like fellow Korean competitor Samsung, LG is also coming out with cable boxes (though without a CableCARD slot):

LG Enters the Cable Box Biz
Debuts Models that Blend Its NetCast OS, Google TV, and Live and On Demand Cable Video
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - June 10, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/cable-tv-co···z/143777

EDIT: Also on the CED Magazine site: »www.cedmagazine.com/news/2013/06···op-boxes

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:48:01 EDT

telcodad posted : A blog article about the RDK and "Cloud vs. the Gateway" from Leslie Ellis on the MCN site this morning:

Your 2013 Cable Show Tech-Talk Decoder Ring
By Leslie Ellis, Multichannel News - June 10, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/blogs/trans···der-ring

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Sun, 09 Jun 2013 16:52:51 EDT

telcodad posted : An Associated Press story today about all the new X1-like boxes MSOs are starting to deploy these days:

Cable operators buff up guides for Internet age
By Ryan Nakashima, AP - June 9, 2013
»hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/···R_GUIDES

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Fri, 07 Jun 2013 17:46:32 EDT

Joe12345678 posted : what about bandwidth? are they useing IP for the thin-client or QAM / VOD channels. comcast does not have SDV so that will eat up a lot of QAM room and even SDV may not help. Also lot's of old boxes can't do MPEG 4 or even HD. So can't really save space my going to MPEG 4 or moving channels to HD only.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Fri, 07 Jun 2013 14:47:47 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by telcodad:

A "Bauminator" blog item about Comcast’s Reference Design Kit (RDK) on the MCN site yesterday:

Comcast’s RDK Hits the Web
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - June 4, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/blogs/baumi···hits-web

At next week's Cable Show, 20 licensees of Comcast's RDK will be showing off products and services based on it:

RDK To Strut Its Stuff at The Cable Show
20 Licensees To Show Off RDK Wares and Services; TWC Has ‘Embraced’ the Set-Top-Accelerating Platform
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - June 7, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/cable-opera···w/143716

EDIT: Also see: »rdkcentral.com/reference-design-···le-show/

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Fri, 07 Jun 2013 13:35:02 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted :

said by telcodad:

said by SpHeRe31459:

I just saw a comment by Mari Silbey (who used to work for Moto) over at ZatzNotFunny that said the STB industry is about to get revitalized.

Yes, it looks like STBs are not going away anytime soon:

Cable TV Still Locked to the Box
To compete in a multiscreen world, MSOs are redoubling their investment in advanced set-tops
By Todd Spangler, Variety - June 6, 2013
»variety.com/2013/tv/news/cable-t···0492896/

I think this is a good quote when you hear cable providers bitch about having boxes:

"While operators complain about the capital expenditure associated with settops, the physical hardware makes it less convenient for subscribers to churn. Plus, MSOs generate ongoing lease fees from hardware, which drop to the bottom line after the boxes are fully amortized in about three years."

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Fri, 07 Jun 2013 13:31:48 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted :

said by GTFan:

said by SpHeRe31459:

Remember the guide itself isn't actually being executed on the DCT-2000, only a thin-client remote desktop-style client is. I assume they stripped out the traditional OS (like i-Guide) and put a very small embedded *nix OS that boots to a remote session client.

The guide is a remote session on a server somewhere with the UI pushed to a thin-client in real-time.

When you consider the DCT-2000 is 480i only. That means all it has to handle is some pretty simple screen redraws at 720x480, which I think it could handle okay.

Wow, they better have a pretty darn reliable network then all the way to every user's home. Based on what we've seen with the X1 I can see why Comcast is hesitant to go this route, because all it takes is a flaky headend server and no one can watch TV through the STB.

Exactly. It could be a total mess. It's pretty clearly just a proof of concept thing.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:07:07 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by SpHeRe31459:

I just saw a comment by Mari Silbey (who used to work for Moto) over at ZatzNotFunny that said the STB industry is about to get revitalized.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:46:10 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by telcodad:

TiVo and Google’s Motorola Mobility unit have reached an out-of-court settlement:

TiVo, Motorola Reach Settlement
Court Official Confirms the DVR Patent Case is Settled; Terms Not Yet Announced
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - June 6, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/distributio···t/143705

More details today in this article on the MCN site:

TiVo Nets $490M From Settlement With Google and Cisco
Settlement Also Resolves Pending Litigation with Time Warner Cable
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - June 7, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/distributio···o/143710

The TiVo press release: »pr.tivo.com/press-releases/tivo-···-1024696

Follow-up article: »www.multichannel.com/distributio···d/143713

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Fri, 07 Jun 2013 07:24:02 EDT

GTFan posted :

said by SpHeRe31459:

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:34:33 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by telcodad:

Google Protects Arris From Big, Scary TiVo
By Jeff Baumgartner, Light Reading Cable - December 20, 2012
»www.lightreading.com/google-prot···40145111

EDIT3: An article on the Multichannel News site saying that ARRIS would be responsible for a maximum of $50 million in TiVo’s current patent lawsuit against Motorola:

Arris Would Pay Maximum of $50M in TiVo Patent Costs
By Todd Spangler, Multichannel News - December 21, 2012
»www.multichannel.com/video/arris···s/140884

A trial date has now been set for TiVo's patent lawsuit against Google’s Motorola Mobility unit:

It’s a Date: Judge Sets TiVo-Motorola Court Battle
Patent Scrum Set for June 10, Bloomberg Reports
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - April 26, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/technology/···e/142976

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:53:17 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted :

said by GTFan:

Sounds great in theory but I wonder how well it will work on old, CPU and memory limited boxes. I saw they ran it on an ancient Moto DCT-2000 but can't see how it would run well. Still have the energy ineffiency issue too.

I can see why some cableCos want to get out of the STB biz but it sure costs a big chunk of money to get there from here.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:51:49 EDT

GTFan posted : Sounds great in theory but I wonder how well it will work on old, CPU and memory limited boxes. I saw they ran it on an ancient Moto DCT-2000 but can't see how it would run well. Still have the energy ineffiency issue too.

I can see why some cableCos want to get out of the STB biz but it sure costs a big chunk of money to get there from here.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Thu, 06 Jun 2013 10:32:06 EDT

telcodad posted : Another interesting "Bauminator" blog item on the MCN site today:

Teaching Ancient Set-Tops New Tricks
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - June 6, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/blogs/baumi···w-tricks

ActiveVideo's press release: »www.prnewswire.com/news-releases···911.html

EDIT: Also on the LRC site: »www.lightreading.com/vod/activev···40156152

and the CED Magazine site:
»www.cedmagazine.com/news/2013/06···mer-list

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Wed, 05 Jun 2013 15:00:33 EDT

camper posted :
more energy efficient ≠ energy efficient

The current STB's are so egregiously inefficient that the phrase "more efficient" is less than meaningless.

Anything but a complete overhaul is little more than a marketing-oriented joke.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Wed, 05 Jun 2013 12:46:37 EDT

GTFan posted : There's been a lot of stuff posted about the energy leeches that are STBs and DVRs over the years and very little has been done about idle modes as you said. The newer ones do use a good bit less power than the older ones do but are still running 24x7.

But then I just read this article posted by dad and it looks like more energy efficient stuff is coming, someday...

»www.broadcastingcable.com/articl···fort.php

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:52:41 EDT

camper posted :

said by cypherstream:

....STB's are just SO under-powered. I'd like to finally see this centuries based UI's on them and users to be able to just zip around them flawlessly and fluidly like you would on an iPhone or Android Jelly Bean. ...

Part of the problem is that they are still considered set top boxes. Only part of the functionality needs to be on/near the TV, the rest can be more portable.

Why have a brain-dead remote with a bunch of buttons on it, when you could have a smart-phone-like remote that is far more useful, eliminating the need for the user interface on the STB.

I would also like to see far better power management. There's no reason for a STB to be fully powered on 24/7. Yes, I know about downloading new guide information routinely, but that can be a "wake up" event, not a "so long as you are awake, do this" type of event.

etc., etc., etc.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Wed, 05 Jun 2013 10:46:15 EDT

telcodad posted : A "Bauminator" blog item about Comcast’s Reference Design Kit (RDK) on the MCN site yesterday:

Comcast’s RDK Hits the Web
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - June 4, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/blogs/baumi···hits-web

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Thu, 16 May 2013 09:56:09 EDT

telcodad posted : Latest news on the status of the ARRIS-Motorola Home combined company:

Arris CEO: M&A ‘Distractions’ Took Toll on Motorola Home
Says Q2 Revenues Will Be Light, but Expects Sales to Accelerate in the Second Half of 2013
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - May 16, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/distributio···e/143338

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:24:02 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by telcodad:

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:15:52 EDT

telcodad posted : An article on the MCN site today, saying that ARRIS has been making progess lately selling their own (pre-Moto) gateway products:

Arris Sees Video Gateway Market Start to Open Up
Three MSOs Assessing Gateways Based on the Comcast RDK
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - April 25, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/technology/···n/142928

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Thu, 18 Apr 2013 15:49:51 EDT

telcodad posted : I see that ARRIS has just set up this new section of their website to handle the Motorola Home products/solutions they acquired, which they now call their "Video Solutions" area: »moto.arrisi.com/Video-Solutions/US-EN/Home

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:43:41 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by telcodad:

ARRIS completed the acquisition of Motorola Home today:

Arris Seals Up $2.35B Motorola Home Deal
Arris CEO Says Leadership Team of the Newly Combined Company will be Revealed Thursday
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - April 17, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/distributio···l/142767

The ARRIS press release: »www.prnewswire.com/news-releases···311.html

ARRIS has now revealed its new leadership team and product group structure:

Arris Unveils New Leadership Team
Former Head of Motorola Home Marwan Fawaz to Exit; Robinson and McClelland Tapped to Lead New Home Devices and Network & Cloud Units
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - April 18, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/technology/···m/142800

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:33:42 EDT

telcodad posted : Yeah, I think Cisco kept the SA name around for at least for a few years, with equipment co-branded like this.

However, I don't think Motorola may have kept the "General Instrument" name long, once they acquired GI back in 2000.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Wed, 17 Apr 2013 17:27:28 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted : Not sure, I know you can still find it around if you look on their cable products site...

For example in 2008 Scientific Atlanta (not referred to as Cisco, even though Cisco owned it since 2005) won a technical Emmy for VOD tech.
»www.emmyonline.org/mediacenter/t···ers.html

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Wed, 17 Apr 2013 17:25:20 EDT

telcodad posted : Yeah. How long did Cisco keep around the "Scientific Atlanta" name after that purchase?

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Wed, 17 Apr 2013 17:18:55 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted : Wow that's a pretty aggressive timeline to get rid of arguably the biggest and most well known name in the cable equipment industry. I can't say I blame them, it gets the Arris name out there quickly.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:58:20 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by telcodad:

ARRIS has now received US DoJ clearance for their purchase of the Motorola Mobility Home division from Google:

DoJ Clears Arris/Motorola Home Deal
Arris Expects to Close Proposed $2.35 Billion Transaction on or about April 17
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - April 12, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/technology/···l/142678

FYI - An earlier LRC article that discusses the two companies' product gaps and overlaps: »www.lightreading.com/motorola--a···40145223

ARRIS CEO Bob Stanzione was interviewed by MCN's Jeff Baumgartner about what lies ahead for the combined company:

Stanzione: Arris Set for the Global Stage
CEO Says Arris Won't Shed Product Lines as it Streamlines, but Will Phase Out Motorola Brand Within a Year
By Jeff Baumgartner, Multichannel News - April 17, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/technology/···e/142772

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:10:01 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by telcodad:

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:13:08 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted :

said by telcodad:

I think that a hybrid DVR design, part local/part cloud, may be the best way to go. A smaller-sized hard drive in the hybrid DVR would be used to record and play back short-term, time-shifted (and then soon deleted) programs, with an nDVR (cloud) recording/playback function used for long-term storage (for episodes of favorite series, mini-series, movies, etc.).

The subscriber would also be able to move individual recordings between the local drive and cloud storage as desired, to free-up space on the local drive, view items outside of the home, and be able to exchange DVRs without losing any recordings.

Right. Nothing wrong with the network storage AKA "the cloud" in-and-of-itself, it all comes down to implementation.

said by telcodad:

A local-cached index of the recordings could be kept in the DVR to allow material on the local hard drive to still be accessed during outages of connectivity to the network.

I've said that very thing in the X1 thread. It is unacceptable that the local recordings were inaccessible.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:54:01 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by SpHeRe31459:

said by Mike Wolf:

The whole cloud based DVR concept is foolish in the event of an outage of either internet or cable services, there are no locally available recordings. At least with Moxi and TiVo, it's located on the hard drive and available even during an extended power outage or down cables during a storm.

Absolutely. It's totally ridiculous that the local recordings were entirely unavailable to X1 users during all those major server issues a week or two ago.

Well, as this recent article on the Videonet side says, many MSOs believe the "cloud" is the future:

More network DVR, more cloud, and still more CPE?
By John Moulding, Videonet - April 9, 2013
»www.v-net.tv/more-network-dvr-mo···ore-cpe/

I think that a hybrid DVR design, part local/part cloud, may be the best way to go. A smaller-sized hard drive in the hybrid DVR would be used to record and play back short-term, time-shifted (and then soon deleted) programs, with an nDVR (cloud) recording/playback function used for long-term storage (for episodes of favorite series, mini-series, movies, etc.).

The subscriber would also be able to move individual recordings between the local drive and cloud storage as desired, to free-up space on the local drive, view items outside of the home, and be able to exchange DVRs without losing any recordings.

A local-cached index of the recordings could be kept in the DVR to allow material on the local hard drive to still be accessed during outages of connectivity to the network.

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Mon, 15 Apr 2013 17:52:55 EDT

dishrich posted : TOTALLY agree - & the MAIN reason why then I would rather be stuck with the I-guide, even with it's warts & all.
From what I've read, the X1 does NOT have a 30-sec skip button either; that is a total deal-breaker for any DVR service for me.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:20:06 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted :

said by Mike Wolf:

Absolutely. It's totally ridiculous that the local recordings were entirely unavailable to X1 users during all those major server issues a week or two ago.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Mon, 15 Apr 2013 01:28:16 EDT

Mike Wolf posted : The whole cloud based DVR concept is foolish in the event of an outage of either internet or cable services, there are no locally available recordings. At least with Moxi and TiVo, it's located on the hard drive and available even during an extended power outage or down cables during a storm.

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Mon, 15 Apr 2013 01:12:10 EDT

mikedz4 posted : they'll get it fixed. They have to because it is their baby and their future.

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:36:12 EDT

GTFan posted : My bad, thanks for the clarification.
Based on the disaster that is the Comcast X1 at this point, perhaps it's better that Arris doesn't play in this space yet. :D

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:43:35 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted : You are correct telcodad.

nDVR is the term that the industry has come to use for a totally cloud based DVR.

A whole home DVR is called just that or a newer term is "home gateway"

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:16:26 EDT

telcodad posted :

said by GTFan:

He claims in the article that Arris doesn't have a network DVR and Moto does, which is untrue. Don't know where that came from but they still have the discontinued Moxi and their own whole home gateway (son of Moxi I think), not sure if the gateway was ever purchased by MSOs though.

»www.arrisi.com/solutions/whole_h···ndex.asp

It looks like there could be some confusion over the use of the word "network" when talking about DVRs.

The term "network DVR" (or "nDVR") is normally used to refer to a system where a subscriber's recordings are stored remotely on the service provider's system, and not locally on a unit located in the subscriber's own home »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_DVR

As far as I know (and someone please correct me if wromg), ARRIS has only marketed "multi-room" or "whole-home" DVRs, like that new Moxi Gateway unit »www.arrisi.com/products/_docs/Mo···OV11.pdf you mention, where the programs are recorded locally on the Gateway unit and then viewed in other rooms using a Moxi Player box, via a local Ethernet or MoCA "network" inside a home.

Motorola, on the other hand, had developed and demonstrated an actual nDVR system: »broadcastengineering.com/blog/mo···rked-dvr

EDIT: FYI - Another article that discusses Motorola nDVR platform: »www.cedmagazine.com/articles/201···-to-ndvr

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Sat, 13 Apr 2013 10:39:11 EDT

GTFan posted : He claims in the article that Arris doesn't have a network DVR and Moto does, which is untrue. Don't know where that came from but they still have the discontinued Moxi and their own whole home gateway (son of Moxi I think), not sure if the gateway was ever purchased by MSOs though.

»www.arrisi.com/solutions/whole_h···ndex.asp

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Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:06:17 EDT

telcodad posted : Yes, and also see this blog item on the CED Magazine site:

An industry insider’s thoughts on Arris’ pickup of Motorola
By Mike Robuck, CED Magazine - December 21, 2012
»www.cedmagazine.com/blogs/2012/1···motorola

EDIT: BTW - the whole presentation from which that image/slide was taken from can be seen here: »www.arrisi.com/_docs/ARRIS_Moto_Home.pdf

Re: [STB] Cisco thinking of getting out of the set-top box busin

Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:06:56 EDT

SpHeRe31459 posted : This image linked in that article is especially helpful/interesting: