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BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH
reply to MovieLover76

Re: more so

AT&T is marketing 14.4 as 4G, as they market the iPhone as 4G. I consider it to be enhanced 3G.

Its just a bunch of marketing BS, but the other factor that's harder to quantify is how well the networks actually work. AT&T's is highly variable, Verizon's very solid, but we don't know how it will hold up a few years down the line...

And coverage is a whole different issue. Around here, T-Mobile is EDGE, AT&T is running HSPA+, and Verizon is limping along on EVDO. I don't consider us to have any 4G.

WiMAX is also a tough case. Should WiMAX be allowed to be marketed as 4G when AT&T's HSPA+ sometimes can match it's speed?


koolman2
Premium
join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK
I have never seen AT&T market the iPhone 4S as 4G.

BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

What do you call this?
From wireless.att.com:


djdanska
Rudie32
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join:2001-04-21
San Diego, CA
kudos:4
Wow. That's what, 28Mb/s slower than my phone! That's what people mean by not calling HSPA+ not 4g. It's not the same, but it isn't 3g either, considering evdo 3g is max 3Mb usually. And not all HSPA+ is the same either.


IPPlanMan
Holy Cable Modem Batman

join:2000-09-20
Washington, DC
kudos:1
reply to koolman2
Don't forget that AT&T wanted to change the 3G symbol on the screen to 4G....

Apple wasn't having any of that.

»www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394434,00.asp

Perhaps a "Throttled" indicator would be more appropriate.... Suggestions for what form that should take?
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
kudos:4
reply to BiggA
That would explain why I had a co-worker come to me on Friday and ask why his 4S said 3G instead of 4G....


koolman2
Premium
join:2002-10-01
Anchorage, AK
reply to BiggA
I stand corrected.

BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH
Fair enough. I don't agree with the way they are marking it, I think 3.5G or 3.9G or enhanced 3G or turbo 3G would be a much better marketing term.

WiMAX should be 4G even though it's slow, but the real 4G is LTE.


djdanska
Rudie32
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join:2001-04-21
San Diego, CA
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Technically the current Lte used now was not originally considered 4g either so your point fails. It was approved as 4g with HSPA+.

BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH
Yes, I know, but it a whole new architecture, so it should be given a new "G". HSPA+ is just an evolution of UMTS.


djdanska
Rudie32
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What would they use? They can't use 3.5G considering it was used for devices with speeds of 3-7.2Mb/s.
»www.phonegg.com/HP/iPAQ-910c/HP-···10c.html
»www.gsmarena.com/hp_ipaq_910c-2095.php
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BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH
3.9G, 3.75G, Turbo 3G, Super 3G, Enhanced 3G, Boosted 3G, 3G Plus, I could keep going on and on...

Or just keep advertising that AT&T's 3G is much faster than the others' 3G. Would make them look better than having crappy 4G. It's sad how AT&T's HSPA+ network gets bashed because it's awful for 4G, but if you look at it correctly, as the 3G that it is, it's really a great network (in most places).