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ProtusMose
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Re: [game] Dethy 6

vote: night



Krisnatharok
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said by drew:

No known roles.

No, but quite a bit of information revealed:

• At this point, any of us can be scum, no one is cleared.
Krisnatharok can be the sane, naive, and insane cop, but not the paranoid cop.
Drew can be the paranoid or insane cop, but not the sane or naive cop.
Ekster can be the sane, naive, or insane cop, but not the paranoid cop.
Brom can be the insane or paranoid cop, but not the sane or naive cop.
PM can be the sane, naive, or insane cop, but not the paranoid cop.

Put another way...

• Scum can be anyone.
• Sane cop can be Krisnatharok, Ekster, or PM.
• Naive cop can be Krisnatharok, Ekster, or PM.
• Insane cop can be anyone.
• Paranoid can be Drew, Ekster, or PM.

Why?

IF Krisnatharok=scum, then
Drew Paranoid Cop
Ekster Sane/Naïve Cop
Brom Insane Cop
PM Sane/Naïve Cop
 
IF Drew=Scum, then
Krisnatharok Sane/Naïve Cop
Ekster Sane/Naïve Cop
Brom Paranoid Cop
PM Insane Cop
 
IF Ekster=scum, then
Krisnatharok Sane/Naïve Cop
Drew Insane/Paranoid Cop
Brom Insane/Paranoid Cop
PM Sane/Naïve Cop
 
IF Brom=scum, then
Krisnatharok Sane/Naïve Cop
Drew Paranoid Cop
Ekster Insane Cop
PM Sane/Naïve Cop
 
IF PM=scum, then
Krisnatharok Naïve/Insane Cop
Drew Insane/Paranoid Cop
Ekster Sane/Naïve Cop
Brom Insane/Paranoid Cop
 

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drew
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Not going to check the logic since it's not important until tomorrow. The critical aspect is whether or not we'd already identified a role (naive or paranoid)
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Krisnatharok
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vote night



ekster
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vote night



Brom
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Vote: Night



Krisnatharok
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lezgo!



Kristopher
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Home sick, so games are stalled.

Night



Antonica
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you too?

we're both off



Jobbie
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FoS both of you



Kristopher
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Time for LoL then, Ant!



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Getting my shit together. Day will come soon.



Kristopher
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Day



Kristopher
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And ekster is dead. Cop.



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Antonica
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/spec

said by Kristopher:

And ekster is dead. Cop.

You mean to tell me he wasn't the mafia?
/spec


ProtusMose
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Guilty on Brom



drew
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I was going to rage at you for not giving me a result until I realized my investigation target got axed.
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Brom
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I got a guilty on KrisN



ProtusMose
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Ekster got an innocent on brom and I got a guilty on him. I got an innocent on drew though, so I'm not paranoid. Ekster could have been naive. I've got to go set up a radio studio for a recording. I'll hash out more scenarios at lunch. I think we're getting valid info, though. Just have to go through it more.



Krisnatharok
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I tried to investigate Ekster and got nothing.



Brom
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I don't think we have enough info to make a solid decision for today. The only one I've found clear is KrisN.



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said by Brom:

The only one I've found clear is KrisN.

This is correct.

From my perspective: Protus has to be sane or scum. (Can't be insane because he got an innocent on me, can't be paranoid/naive since he got 1 guilty/1 innocent) If Kris = scum, then Protus HAS to be sane but he can't be sane since he got guilty on Brom when Kris is scum.
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said by ProtusMose:

Ekster got an innocent on brom and I got a guilty on him. I got an innocent on drew though, so I'm not paranoid. Ekster could have been naive. I've got to go set up a radio studio for a recording. I'll hash out more scenarios at lunch. I think we're getting valid info, though. Just have to go through it more.

So here's what I have so far. I am the only one cleared and cannot be scum:

IF Krisnatharok=scum, then
- Drew is SANE or PARANOID cop
- Ekster is SANE or NAIVE cop
- Brom is PARANOID cop
- PM is ???? cop
 

Since Drew can't be paranoid if Brom is, that means Drew becomes the sane cop and Ekster becomes the naive cop. However PM can't be any sort of cop so the situation doesn't work.

So that's me. Unfortunately, scum can still be Drew/Brom/PM. Let's walk through each one of those situations individually.

IF Drew=Scum, then
- KrisN is SANE or NAIVE cop
- Ekster is SANE or NAIVE cop
- Brom is PARANOID cop
- PM is INSANE cop
 

At this point it doesn't matter which one of us is sane or naive.

IF Brom=scum, then
- KrisN is NAIVE cop
- Drew is PARANOID cop
- Ekster is INSANE cop
- PM is SANE cop
 

This fits nicely with no variations and can be most quickly disproved by one of the four of us returning a result that can't fit.

IF PM=scum, then
- KrisN is NAIVE cop
- Drew is INSANE cop
- Ekster is SANE cop
- Brom is PARANOID cop
 

Another nicely fitting scenario, but again easily disproved.

So to wrap up,

•KrisN is either the sane or naive cop
• Drew can be anything BUT naive
•Ekster can be anything BUT scum or paranoid cop
•Brom is either scum or the paranoid cop
•PM is either scum, sane, or insane

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Also you somehow seem to defy categorizing, as you are the only player who can still be 4 out of 5 roles (everyone else can be 3 out of 5 or fewer).

Mafia ploy to remain ambiguous? We shall see.
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drew
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I'm doing a "stream of consciousness" bit right now so pardon what will be multiple posts.

I'm a cop, so whatever.

Kris CANNOT be insane because if he's insane, then protus HAS to be scum. If protus is scum then the only person who can be sane is ekster but he's also the only person that can be naive.
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said by drew:

If protus is scum then the only person who can be sane is ekster but he's also the only person that can be naive.

If PM is scum then I am naive.
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drew
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Correct.

I "set" you as naive and both the possibilities of protus/brom being scum work out as logically possible.
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Krisnatharok
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The only instance I can be sane (technically SANE or NAIVE, with Ekster being the other one), is if you are scum.



drew
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If I "set" you as sane, then protus has to be sane since he can't be scum.

In other words, you HAVE to be naive.
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