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yoyomhz
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Alzheimers Disease

Oh, by the way, I just bought a new gun.

And yesterday, I shot my first goose.

It scared the crap outa everybody in the frozen foods section!!!!

but why so many alzheimers disease people these days? Don't say it's because people are old. People were meant to get old and still have their brains. The reason is too many chemcial additives in food.

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said by yoyomhz:

but why so many alzheimers disease people these days?

It's a result of paying too much taxes. This is how the brain copes with it.

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said by yoyomhz:

but why so many alzheimers disease people these days? Don't say it's because people are old. People were meant to get old and still have their brains. The reason is too many chemcial additives in food.

Bzzzt. The reason is because 50 years ago people either died from something else before the symptoms of Alzheimer's fully manifested themselves, or they were just labelled "senile" without a second thought as to why and locked away in some institution to die. There fact of the matter is that there aren't more people with Alzheimer's, rather we have simply gotten to the point where we know more about it and are able to detect it. Those who kick and cry and freak out about epidemics of disease due to the modern realities of life are too retarded to realize that things were no different 50-100 years ago, we've just gotten to the point where we're able to identify an illness and know what it is rather than throwing our hands in the air and claiming that it's god or something else causing a problem.

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To quote someone in EAP I saw "Today, when you die you die of Cancer. 80 years ago it was Old Age..."

yoyomhz
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One person I knew was 93 years old with a perfect working mind.
Just like the Hunzas who lived to over 100, with all their own teeth, no alzheimers disease, no jails and no mental institutes,
and no multi $billion dollar pharmaceutical industry.

I know other people who are losing their mind. I actually know of three people who have alzheimers disease - it's an epidemic I would say. Why does one person get alzheimers and another person doesn't?

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Alzheimer's cannot be chemically/biologically diagnosed except for an autopsy. It is diagosed by recognizing signs once the diseased has advanced enough.

Initially, one thinks that a parent is just becoming senile. By the time it is obvious, the disease has progressed significantly.

However, those who have cared for an alzheimer's patient recognize the signs in other people really early.

A cousin of mine had recognized my mother having it years before we saw it. And I recognized a friend's mother having it years before their family realised it. (I decided it was not my business to tell them and just let it run its course).

Just because I saw signs in a person during one dinner does not mean that it is a "permanent" disability. It could have been something else. But stress, high bood sugar and high blood pressure tend to make dementia more pronounced so in such cases, demential in early stages become more visible.

Because dementia is better diagnosed than before, the statistics show an increase, but that increase is due to the diagnosis changing, not necessarily the disease becoming more frequent for people that age.
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Re: Alzheimers Disease

said by jfmezei:

Because dementia is better diagnosed than before, the statistics show an increase, but that increase is due to the diagnosis changing, not necessarily the disease becoming more frequent for people that age.

Dementia and Alzheimer's Disease are not the same thing. Alzheimer's Disease results in dementia, but so do many other diseases such as MID, CJD, DLB, Pick's Disease, etc.

My grandmother had MID when she passed away. Presents symptoms similar to Alzheimer's, but was instead caused by what we believe to be a head injury earlier in life that resulted in a stroke when she was elderly.

Of course, 50 years ago none of us wouldn't of known any of this.
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Alzheimer's is a form of dementia. There are many forms of dementia. Dementia is a generic term which does not denote specific brain problem. There are a large number of dementia. I know of alzheimers, psychosis (often seen in one patient) and there is another one I saw at a hospital, but I don't remember the name.

Risperdal for psychosis (works wonders)

Reminyl for alzheimers. (only attempst to slow the progress, Alzheimerz is a degenerative diseases and damaged portion of the brain cannot ever return to normal with current medical knowledge, and the best medecine can do is slow the progress of the disease) There are a number of drugs for alzheimers. My mother was given Reminyl. (or Remynil, can't remember)

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said by »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia :
Dementia is not a single disease, but rather a non-specific illness syndrome (i.e., set of signs and symptoms) in which affected areas of cognition may be memory, attention, language, and problem solving. It is normally required to be present for at least 6 months to be diagnosed;[3] cognitive dysfunction that has been seen only over shorter times, in particular less than weeks, must be termed delirium. In all types of general cognitive dysfunction, higher mental functions are affected first in the process.
Dementia is a symptom of the disease, which... is what I just said.

Also, "psychosis" is a generic term that is associated with many different abnormalities affecting the functioning of the mind, but not necessarily its physical state. It is not a form of dementia. One could argue that dementia symptoms are a form of psychosis, not the other way around.
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I'll trust my experience with a doctor specialised in dementia and doing research for a montreal university. She confirmed to us that both alzheimers and psychosis were a form a dementia (my mother had both, (but Risperdal was very effective at preventing phychosis episodes.).

We were lucky to get a very good doctor not because of what she did to my mother, but because the education she gave me and my dad on what my mother was going through and what to expect next. She also unleashed her students on us to do various surveys.

She was also very good at diagnosis my mother's walking problem. Because she was diabetic, the nerves on her feet were much less sensitive so she did not feel her foot being down on the floor unless she pressed hard so she walked slowly and like a heavy monster by banging her feet on the floor to be sure they were on the floor.

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said by jfmezei:

I'll trust my experience with a doctor specialised in dementia and doing research for a montreal university. She confirmed to us that both alzheimers and psychosis

And I will argue right here that you simply did not understand enough of what this doctor was talking about which lead you to the incorrect (and laughable, I might add) belief that "psychosis" - an all-encompassing term for a number of psychological conditions - is a form of dementia.

Psychosis is such a broad term that many medical practitioners refuse to use the term at all, as there are many illnesses that are classified as a form of psychosis that are in no way related to each other. The fact that you are using the term psychosis as some medical condition that is a form of dementia treated by one type of medication and then go on to have the audacity to say that a medical practitioner would ever make such a ridiculous claim is not only laughable as I said earlier, but insulting. You've said some pretty silly things in the past jf, but this one is right up there.

Let me just put it this way jf in case you want to continue to try and make this ridiculous claim - someone who is suffering from paranoid schizophrenia does not have dementia. They can be said, however, to be psychotic. Same goes for certain states of bipolar disorder.

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but why so many alzheimers disease people these days? Don't say it's because people are old. People were meant to get old and still have their brains. The reason is too many chemcial additives in food.

No. It's in the genes. [deleted]

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I was going to say something but I forgot what I had to say. Hello have we met?
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Re: Alzheimers Disease

As someone who has seen a lot of Alzheimers in my family, my grandmother came from a family of 9, 8 of them had it, confirmed on autopsy with my grandmother. My father was hit with early onset in his 50s, thankfully his heart took him in his 60s before he was totally taken by it. In montreal we are lucky in the sense one of the biggest research centres for the disease is at the douglas hospital.

Its a horrible disease. It doesnt take the older memories right away starts with the recent. So your loved one may see you as someone from their past, troubleing when your father sees you as his own father. Right now the most important thing is caring for the caregiver. the caregivers are the ones suffering the most, usually a spouse. There is a lot of caregiver burnout. If you know of someone with the disease please keep an eye on the caregiver and know when to step in and help.

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said by yoyomhz:

I know other people who are losing their mind. I actually know of three people who have alzheimers disease - it's an epidemic I would say. Why does one person get alzheimers and another person doesn't?

Scientists are working on that, hang in there.
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yoyomhz
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Re: Alzheimers Disease

Just take a walk through the grocery store and look at the ingredients in the food. And then find out why there are three preservatives in McDonalds frys, and twenty two chemical additives in their meals. Find out why eastern Canada and USA drenches all their apples in post harvest fungicides. Find out why white flour has 80% of it's nutrition removed, and several chemical additives. Find out why people are eating ten times too much sugar - a drug - with no nutritional value at all, and a poison to the human body. Find out why supermarket shelves are loaded with foods so poor in nutrition, the body is forced to rob nutrition from itself just to digest such junk - and you will begin to understand why some people get alzheimers disease and others don't.

Brains need nutrition too.




My aunt was poor and bought a lot of these cheap products from Costco. They have about thirty chemical ingredients.




thse are organic blueberries. Theyr are expensive, but have certain minerals that people need for good health. I am guessing 100% of the people on this forum will never eat organic blueberries in their life because of the expense. And that's the problem right there. We're cheaping out on our food - andpaying the price in the long term.

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said by yoyomhz:

but have certain minerals that people need for good health.

Which minerals?

For every person who claims that we are ruining our health compared to days past yonder, I can point out one person who has survived what would have been considered a fatal illness in those days, and ten people who have lived well past the life expectancy one would expect in those days before.

yoyomhz
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Just because you get 100,000 miles out of your vehicle is no reason to go and celebrate and be proud. Maybe the car was designed to get 200,000 miles.

People are not supposed to get alzheimers disease. They're 'supposed' to live a long time with the conditions we have. But we're greedy people. We like to 'save' money on food. And that's the reason.
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like everything, life is a tradeoff, we are living longer than ever, we are being hit more and more often by illnesses that in the past were un heard of. You have to remember as well as all the other factors we are also living past the warranty date on the ol body!

yoyomhz
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No we're not. What a bunch of crap. Average age of 72?
that's not past the warranty date. We're supposed to go to 110 - with NO health problems. We're supposed to just 'expire' when we get old, not suffer in the last years, while adding to the $300 billion most profitable industry - the pharmaceutical industry - known to man (other than war industry)

for everyone that lives to 82, another one dies at 62? Is that how it works? Doesn't sound great to me.

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Everything is done with profit in mind. Fruit is picked green, drenched in fungicides - and shipped great distances - for profit.
but it's no good for you.

Pesticides are used for 'cosmetic' purposes - for profit. No good.

Fast Food is the biggest distributor of food in our country. Mcdonalds itself is probably the biggest on earth. All its food is prepared far away from where it is eaten (Oklahoma) and shipped - for profit - to the poor suckers who buy it, because it's loaded with presevatives. No good.

People who eat crap food will increase their chances of alzheimers disease. No good.

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said by yoyomhz:

Just because you get 100,000 miles out of your vehicle is no reason to go and celebrate and be proud. Maybe the car was designed to get 200,000 miles.

People are living longer now than they ever have before, so your analogy is completely false. That's like bitching that you got that you got 100,000 miles out of your when no one has ever gotten more than 70,000 before.
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From a darwinistic point of view, you are meant to procreate at an early age, and once your kids are old enough to procreate, you can die. So the species will not eliminate genes for diseases that happen after that since people will have already had kids and passed on their genes by then.

As medecine and healthier lifestyles have prolongued life well beyond the reproductive years, deffective genes that do not prevent procreation trigger diseases such as alzheimers when combined with other aspects (less mental activity, less exercise, blood sugar problems, high blood pressure etc).

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said by jfmezei:

From a darwinistic point of view, you are meant to procreate at an early age, and once your kids are old enough to procreate, you can die. ...

You don't even have to last that long. I think you can shorten that estimate by a few years.

With the communal nature of humans, you could probably die when your children are still young and your genes would most-likely stay strong within the herd