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Kosh
We are all Kosh
Premium
join:2005-11-16
Z'ha'dum
Reviews:
·CenturyLink
reply to sandman_1

Re: What usenet service everyone using now?

It's bad enough the usenet providers have been targeted. But NZBMatrix is also proactively removing items from its index as well!

If this trend continues, some indexers could be almost entirely useless.

From »nzbmatrix.com/banned.php :
quote:
The following is a list of content that is banned from our site, these have been banned for various reasons.

If you are (or if you represent) the copyright owner of any material on this site that you would like to have removed from our index please see here

If you upload any content that is listed below you will be banned from this site without warning

All Microsoft Windows Operating Systems
All Microsoft Office Applications
All Adult Content
Any books by Tianna Xander or Extasy Books
Any "Earn cash, get x free" spam/scam postings
ALL X Men Origins Wolverine Movie Releases (Inc Fixes etc)
All Anne Perry Audio Books
All Edward Elgar Content
Wowza Media Server
A Serbian Film (»www.imdb.com/title/tt1273235/)
The Hunger Games (Lionsgate)

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"I'm just a human being trying to make it in a world that is very rapidly losing its understanding of being human." - John Trudell

jimboe

join:2000-08-14
New York
reply to nfixit2004
.. plants ..

sandman_1

join:2011-04-23
11111
reply to Kosh
I hope they all go down. I know it sounds harsh but these DMCA take downs have been getting more and more frequent and it is because of the ease of use sites like NZBMatrix bring to the table.

It is not hard to learn how to crawl through a search site like binsearch or mysterbin and get what you want. I do it and have done it for years. With filters and a little common sense, you can weed out 99% of the junk in searches.


Kosh
We are all Kosh
Premium
join:2005-11-16
Z'ha'dum
Reviews:
·CenturyLink
I certainly understand the sentiment. We now have software packages and indexers that have lowered the barriers to entry into the Usenet market considerably.

But I disagree with your contention on NZBmatrix. It's true they might make DMCA takedowns easier, but as you pointed out, there is always Mysterbin and Binsearch. If you can find the articles through those means, so can the MPAA/RIAA, BSA, etc. and request article cancellations.

The horse left the barn on Usenet long ago. "They" are well aware of it, and the future, as always, remains in doubt.
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"I'm just a human being trying to make it in a world that is very rapidly losing its understanding of being human." - John Trudell


Frink
Professor
Premium
join:2000-07-13
Scotch Plains, NJ
reply to nfixit2004
nzbxxx.com is alive and well last i checked so i am not sure where they are removing 'all adult content'


Devanchya
Smile
Premium
join:2003-12-09
Ajax, ON
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·TekSavvy DSL
they want the content on nzbxxx and not the main site, which is why it's listed as banned. This was explained to me when I was discussing the carrot and stick method of controlling access to products online.
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AkFubar
Admittedly, A Teksavvy Fan

join:2005-02-28
Toronto CAN.
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
reply to nfixit2004
I appreciate these postings. I too am considering moving to usenet from p2p. Just sick and tired of all the fakes being posted on p2p these days. In a way I doubt how much better usenet will be for movies etc, but I think I'd rather take my chances there than on p2p.
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TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Calgary, AB
kudos:3
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
said by AkFubar:

I appreciate these postings. I too am considering moving to usenet from p2p. Just sick and tired of all the fakes being posted on p2p these days. In a way I doubt how much better usenet will be for movies etc, but I think I'd rather take my chances there than on p2p.

join a good index site and you'll be fine.


kingdome74
Let's Go Orange
Premium
join:2002-03-27
Syracuse, NY
kudos:5
reply to AkFubar
The worst part of using newsgroups is the constant line saturation regardless of your download speed


Archivis
Your Daddy
Premium
join:2001-11-26
Earth
kudos:19
"My downloads are too fast."

First world NNTP problems.


90115534
Someone is sabotaging me.Finding out who
Premium
join:2001-06-03
Kenner, LA
reply to nfixit2004
said by kingdome74:

The worst part of using newsgroups is the constant line saturation regardless of your download speed

said by Archivis:

"My downloads are too fast."

First world NNTP problems.

Funny.


AkFubar
Admittedly, A Teksavvy Fan

join:2005-02-28
Toronto CAN.
reply to nfixit2004
Using AstraWeb 3mos/$20.00 as my main

Using BlockNews as fill


jubangy
Premium
join:2005-03-26
Corry, PA
I am trying out voordeligusenet.nl so far no issues.


nfx
The Wire
Premium
join:2001-05-21
Vancouver, BC
kudos:1
reply to nfixit2004
I've resorted to using BT to download a TV show.

I haven't had to do this for many years.
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nfx

newster

join:2011-09-26
said by nfx:

I've resorted to using BT to download a TV show.

I haven't had to do this for many years.

Everyone might need to soon get used to using torrents again, for any kind of mainstream material in the future.

Also some non-commercial material is going down, even some free podcasts and Youtube reposts seem to be getting snatched up by the robo-takedown machine.

Scorched earth all the way around, it could eventually progress to the stage that the movie studios don't have much need to buy usenet takedowns any more because their shows were already taken down by mistake. :=(

newster

join:2011-09-26
reply to jubangy
said by jubangy:

I am trying out voordeligusenet.nl so far no issues.

Voordeligusenet.nl and SunnyUsenet are both XLNED resellers.

SunnyUsenet costs a lot less, but what is the advantage of using Voordelig Usenet?


jubangy
Premium
join:2005-03-26
Corry, PA
said by newster:

said by jubangy:

I am trying out voordeligusenet.nl so far no issues.

Voordeligusenet.nl and SunnyUsenet are both XLNED resellers.

SunnyUsenet costs a lot less, but what is the advantage of using Voordelig Usenet?

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sandman_1

join:2011-04-23
11111
reply to newster
said by newster:

said by nfx:

I've resorted to using BT to download a TV show.

I haven't had to do this for many years.

Everyone might need to soon get used to using torrents again, for any kind of mainstream material in the future.

Maybe some that are "wet-between-the-ears" will have to go back to torrents. Even though these automated DMCA take downs have hit some content hard, it hasn't stopped me from getting that content. It has just been a minor convenience. So Morganelli can talk it all they want on their website, the fact is, they aren't stopping anything, well maybe scaring off the occasional noob.


kingdome74
Let's Go Orange
Premium
join:2002-03-27
Syracuse, NY
kudos:5
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

1 recommendation

I agree. Although the takedowns have been an inconvenience for the most part I've found workarounds without much problem without resorting to torrents. I'd stop altogether if there were only torrents.
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#9 Orange plays San Diego State on the deck of the aircraft carrier Midway Sunday. Should be an awesome game.


Stem Bolt
Aka Smiling Bob
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2

1 recommendation

reply to nfixit2004
To help minimize the impact of DMCA you can try to automate as much of your usenet downloads as possible using Sickbeard, Couchpotato and RSS. So that when desired content is indexed it is downloaded from usenet as soon as possible.

Of course it's not possible to automatically download EVERYTHING you will ever want but you can automate some of it.

sandman_1

join:2011-04-23
11111
Good advice.

Adding to that a mix of providers will help minimize the impact too. People should have a NL only provider as backup for their US provider. NL providers take down stuff too but there is considerable lag compared to the swiftness of some of the US providers.

Right now, the servers I have (6), use like 4-5 tier 1 providers (Mostly NL). You gotta diversify nowadays.


pr1mo
Premium
join:2003-11-12
Harwood Heights, IL
kudos:2
reply to nfixit2004
Still using AstraWeb here.


jubangy
Premium
join:2005-03-26
Corry, PA
reply to Stem Bolt
said by Stem Bolt:

To help minimize the impact of DMCA you can try to automate as much of your usenet downloads as possible using Sickbeard, Couchpotato and RSS. So that when desired content is indexed it is downloaded from usenet as soon as possible.

Of course it's not possible to automatically download EVERYTHING you will ever want but you can automate some of it.

Using dognzb for the most part comes pretty close to full automation as far as tv and movies are concerned. Just wish there was a manual link to push the queue to my sab instead of having to wait for the site to do it when I am browsing. All in all though is pretty much set and forget.


Stem Bolt
Aka Smiling Bob
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2
said by jubangy:

said by Stem Bolt:

To help minimize the impact of DMCA you can try to automate as much of your usenet downloads as possible using Sickbeard, Couchpotato and RSS. So that when desired content is indexed it is downloaded from usenet as soon as possible.

Of course it's not possible to automatically download EVERYTHING you will ever want but you can automate some of it.

Using dognzb for the most part comes pretty close to full automation as far as tv and movies are concerned. Just wish there was a manual link to push the queue to my sab instead of having to wait for the site to do it when I am browsing. All in all though is pretty much set and forget.

Yep, I'm using Dognzb also. It's been working great. The Admin at Dognzb really has the remote push dialed in. Since Dognzb has closed it's registrations I didn't mention it in my original post. But I definitely recommend Dognzb to help automate your TV and Movie downloads from usenet.


chaud
Serious Business

join:2004-07-09
Anderson, SC
Reviews:
·Charter
said by Stem Bolt:

Yep, I'm using Dognzb also. It's been working great. The Admin at Dognzb really has the remote push dialed in. Since Dognzb has closed it's registrations I didn't mention it in my original post. But I definitely recommend Dognzb to help automate your TV and Movie downloads from usenet.

Have they addressed the issue of mislabeled shows? For a few days when I added them as a search provider I constantly got mislabeled episodes that were a completely different show and even a password protected episode.


Stem Bolt
Aka Smiling Bob
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2
said by chaud:

said by Stem Bolt:

Yep, I'm using Dognzb also. It's been working great. The Admin at Dognzb really has the remote push dialed in. Since Dognzb has closed it's registrations I didn't mention it in my original post. But I definitely recommend Dognzb to help automate your TV and Movie downloads from usenet.

Have they addressed the issue of mislabeled shows? For a few days when I added them as a search provider I constantly got mislabeled episodes that were a completely different show and even a password protected episode.

Yes, the admin contacted the Newznab developers and they made some changes to better detect the usenet spam. The admin also made changes on his end to help with the issue.

Morfein

join:2004-09-08
Avon, IN
reply to nfixit2004
So I generally lurk, and I appreciate all the info I collect in this forum. So I thought I give back.

I bought the 60mbit »www.ssl-news.info/ with 25 concurrent connections last night for 1 month to give it a go. It easily maxed out my connection (40mbit)... It also had a few things that I couldn't find on my main provider »usenetserver.com

So far so good...

striker1211

join:2011-01-14
Jackson, MI
said by Morfein:

So I generally lurk, and I appreciate all the info I collect in this forum. So I thought I give back.

I bought the 60mbit »www.ssl-news.info/ with 25 concurrent connections last night for 1 month to give it a go. It easily maxed out my connection (40mbit)... It also had a few things that I couldn't find on my main provider »usenetserver.com

So far so good...

I actually did the same thing just now, I am getting 430s on luigi and honest horny vampires.


new user

@idnet.net
reply to Morfein
tried ssl-news 99c account, completion wasn't enough for my tv shows


gjrhine

join:2001-12-12
Pawleys Island, SC
reply to nfixit2004
I just use lists and enter into Newsleecher Search. Now I'm not sure why I was not doing that all along.