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peterboro
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Re: Abusable Oxycontin Pulled

I read that Ontario has spent half a billion dollars the last few years on this stuff.

These dope people will just move onto other stuff and maybe so many won't get hooked in the first place.


Gone
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Dealing with the fallout from people who are addicted to the stuff is going to be a mess of epic proportions. We're not talking about shady characters hiding in in the alleyways at night, either. We're talking about the elderly. Parents. Young people with children. People who otherwise have jobs who pay taxes and are productive members of society. This is yet again another situation where the province has a good intention but so royally fucks up the implementation that they end up making the situation worse than it was before.

peterboro
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How would you have implemented this given that this was announced last year and all the stakeholders including the addicts knew?


elwoodblues
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said by Gone:

Dealing with the fallout from people who are addicted to the stuff is going to be a mess of epic proportions. We're not talking about shady characters hiding in in the alleyways at night, either. We're talking about the elderly. Parents. Young people with children. People who otherwise have jobs who pay taxes and are productive members of society. This is yet again another situation where the province has a good intention but so royally fucks up the implementation that they end up making the situation worse than it was before.

Exactly, the intentions are right, but the implementation is going to screw so many people over it's not funny. I'm sure you'll be able to find it "on the street" , but the price is going to SKYROCKET since it will no longer be available domestically.
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Rifleman
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10 bucks/mg here. How much worse can it get and how bad are the robberies gonna get?


elwoodblues
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HOLY SHIT, how the hell can one afford that? An 80mg pill is 800 bucks? I'm going to hate to see the price when it starts to dry up.

I was doing some quick reading and one couple were discussing on a forum(not here) how they were doing 3 or 4 of those 80mg tabs a day.
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peterboro
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said by elwoodblues:

HOLY SHIT, how the hell can one afford that? An 80mg pill is 800 bucks? I'm going to hate to see the price when it starts to dry up.

Didn't you just have some left over from your latest spill. To think of the thousands of dollars of that shit I've flushed down the toilet.


Rifleman
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Sorry-----1buck/mg. I have no doubt it will hit 10 soon. Even so--one pill is 80 bucks-----so 3 or 4 a day is expensive.


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said by Rifleman:

10 bucks/mg here. How much worse can it get and how bad are the robberies gonna get?

You serious? I have a medicine cabinet filled with this stuff and something else called dilaudid.

Without going to into details, I was given morphine after a surgery. It worked for only 3 days then I was immune to it's effects and the pain was unbearable.

So they gave me oxycontin. This worked for about 3 days and then the pain was unbearable.

Then they gave me dilaudid. This worked for 3 days before the pain became unbearable.

They put me back on oxycontin and said you have a choice. A referral to some sort of pain specialist, or live with it. I decided to live with it and just filled out the prescriptions and never bothered taking them (hence why I have a lot in my medicine cabinet).

They said I'm unlucky to be one of those people whose body adjusts to pain meds after a couple of days. Then again, when they put me out for surgery I sat up while they dug into me and said it was a nice hole they made. They gave me more giggle-juice to put me out and when they were all done I sat up and said, I bet you thought I was out eh and laughed before I actually did pass out.

So this stuff doesn't have much use on me. But I know the effects.

Morphine + severe pain = Relaxation.
dilaudid + severe pain = numbness.
oxycontin +severe pain = moody and hyper

I think much of this is in peoples minds. Tell them it's an opioid and they want it and think they are high.

One thing I learned though, by accident... oxycontin + a couple of glasses of wine = knock out concoction.

So if I had to guess at why people are (or think they are) addicted to oxycontin, I would say it isn't because of oxycontin alone. Rather oxycontin with something else (beer, wine or whatever) triggers a big enough high to F you up greatly (and I mean walking through walls). But for me, that lasted.. yup, 3 days.. then it no longer affected me in the same way.

As a pain med, I found it really useless along with everything else.


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said by Gone:

Dealing with the fallout from people who are addicted to the stuff is going to be a mess of epic proportions. We're not talking about shady characters hiding in in the alleyways at night, either. We're talking about the elderly. Parents.

You are absolutely right about that. I know someone's father who's addicted to it... and can get a prescription to support this addiction, because he has a physical need to take it that may be incurable; the problem is, family members are unable to determine if there really is a need to continue taking it regularly or it's an addiction.


elwoodblues
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said by peterboro:

said by elwoodblues:

HOLY SHIT, how the hell can one afford that? An 80mg pill is 800 bucks? I'm going to hate to see the price when it starts to dry up.

Didn't you just have some left over from your latest spill. To think of the thousands of dollars of that shit I've flushed down the toilet.

Actually I do, I have some Oxy and some Percs around here.
Latest spill was last May
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No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake.......