Topic '[PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back' in forum 'World of Warcraft' - dslreports.com

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:46:33 EDT

bTU posted :

Very, very few real world birds can hover. So very, very few mounts should be able to hover.

I guess it wouldn't bother me much if they could, I just think it would be fun to have a little fear thrown into flying in game. If you didn't pay attention and fly into a mountain you can die. If you climb too hard you stall. If you fly upwind you go slower, down wind faster.

So in a game where warlocks shoot green fireballs from their butts you're concerned with the physics of flight?

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:44:37 EDT

The0_o posted : MOP Will add :

World PvP: Conquest point cap will increase as players win world objectives. For example, personally conquering Southshore and Tarren Mill back in the day would have been great for this dynamic.
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Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 01:16:01 EDT

Gan posted :

said by Phantasee:

/join Worlddefense and hunt them down. I do it when bored.

holy crap, after 6 years of playing I never knew this channel existed... learn something new every day! This will be my new hobby. Beats waiting at the Crossroads all day.

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:15:49 EDT

RRedline posted : Blizzard decided a long time ago that they didn't really want world PvP. They caved in and listened to the crybabies who 1) chose to play on PvP servers, and 2) hate PvP.

Seriously, it really is that simple. People who don't like getting attacked by other players CHOSE to play on PvP servers, then cried to Blizzard and ruined a good thing.

They want everyone to just queue up for instanced crap and do their daily chores (grinding trivial things like "rep").

I miss the glory days of Ultima Online so much.
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Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:48:01 EDT

Josof posted : aside from disabling LFD/LFR it would be cool if you could get rewards on a PvP server for attacking enemy towns and quest hubs

rewards could be titles: Defender of the Crossroads, Sacker of Goldshire, something along those lines.

it would definitely interfere with people questing but if you dont like it , roll on a PvE server.

Maybe the town could have a flag in the middle that can be captured after dealing with all the NPCs and enemy players.
Also on a larger scale they could enhance the For the Horde/Alliance achievements with titles for killing the leaders and defending your capital i.e. Guardian of Stormwind or Conqueror of the Horde.

It would give people who are interested in "world" pvp something to work towards. 2 cents

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:22:16 EDT

navymaverick posted : Idea: Day of the Champion.

Once a month on this day everyone is flagged for 24 hours.

Flying is disabled on both mounts and taxis.

Mages only port to nuetral or opposing cities.

If you spend longer than 15 minutes in a capitol you are automatically ported to an opposing capitol.

All opposing leaders are worth 1000 honor, 1000 JPs and 1000g every time you down one.

Subsequent kills are worth +10% each time.

Only 1 kill counts per hour.

There is more to it than that but I will leave it up to everyone's twisted imagination.

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:03:31 EDT

saillaw posted : I do like being able to not have character collisions. I don't want them to change that.

Maybe they could keep flying safe, but add a little more of the roller-coaster effect to it. I hate that I can point straight down and fly the same speed as when I fly straight up. I think it offends the hidden pilot in me.

Flying now is like this guy:[att=1]

I want to fly like this guy:
[att=2]
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Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:01:09 EDT

cymraeg posted : touche, touche to you my friend.

but im crotchity and dont like ghostcrawling back to a corpse
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Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:59:36 EDT

Immer posted :

said by saillaw:

Chickens, that's what you two are.

lol. I just think there are better things for the devs to be working on. I seriously dislike the idea of having character models bounce off each other. Imagine what that would do to raiding?

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:56:28 EDT

saillaw posted : Chickens, that's what you two are.

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:51:10 EDT

cymraeg posted : i agree with Immer on the physics, i like being able to hop on my mount float high enough to not aggro a mob then go afk for whatever reason and not die
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Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:47:46 EDT

Immer posted : While I can agree that would make the flying interesting... I don't want Blizzard to work physics into the game. I like that my toon can run through other toons, I like that I just come to a complete stop when I hit a wall rather than taking dmg. I don't want a flight simulator... I only recommended the above changes to mitigate what flying mounts have done to world pvp.

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:42:05 EDT

saillaw posted : Very, very few real world birds can hover. So very, very few mounts should be able to hover.

I guess it wouldn't bother me much if they could, I just think it would be fun to have a little fear thrown into flying in game. If you didn't pay attention and fly into a mountain you can die. If you climb too hard you stall. If you fly upwind you go slower, down wind faster.
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Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:29:48 EDT

cymraeg posted : why wouldnt a gryphon or wyvern be able to hover, any winged mount for that matter, the only one i would say that shouldnt be able to hover is the rocket
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Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:12:20 EDT

Josof posted :

said by Snuffbox:

said by The0_o:

How can we get the players back into the game.

Make flying only possible at max level (90)

Make city NPC's less powerful allowing players to cause trouble with less than a raid group.

^^ MoP

World PvP incoming.

nice!

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:01:21 EDT

saillaw posted : As a side note, I really wish they would apply realistic flight mechanics. When you dive down you speed up, when you climb you slow down, you can't hover unless you have a helicopter, etc.
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Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:54:15 EDT

Immer posted : I can't believe I'm brainstorming this... hopefully no one at blizz reads this forum.

flying mount combat abilities. When mounted, your mount has defensive "combo points" (using the same icons that rogue/kitty sees for building combo points), one for each trained lvl of flight. When engaged in flight... you get dismounted when the last of these defensive points is consumed (re-introduce parachutes in the game... maybe make it a secondary ability on pvp cloaks purchased with honor points).

Grant PVP flying mounts a mount-specific attack only available in contested zones or when target is flagged for PVP. This attack does not dmg your opponent, only his mount (see above) the point being to force your opponent to the ground so you can engage in pvp. In your home city, there are already airborne guards. Non-PVP mounts (obtained via PvE) should have a muted defensive ability available in contested zones and when flagged for PvP. This should prevent the mounts from being used outside of PvP.

The goal here is to get more pvp by granting a reason to engage the opposing faction in the air. It would balance the druid advantage of instant-flight against the ability to be brought down... and it would encourage druids to also obtain/use pvp mounts.
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Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:25:26 EDT

cymraeg posted : that will only be on the island, everywhere else you will be able to fly

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:18:28 EDT

Snuffbox posted :

said by The0_o:

How can we get the players back into the game.

Make flying only possible at max level (90)

Make city NPC's less powerful allowing players to cause trouble with less than a raid group.

^^ MoP

World PvP incoming.

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:20:09 EDT

Rhenai posted : And THAT's why I chose to avoid the PVP servers. I would have to sign off at portal time.
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Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:14:38 EDT

Immer posted : I find it odd that Darkmoon faire stuff doesn't create very much world pvp.

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:12:03 EDT

Phantasee posted :

said by navymaverick:

Once every 6 hours port every online player (not in dungeon, raid or BG) to WG. No one leaves for an hour. Everyone is flagged, No one can leave, fly, port or move from teh zone.

234872138409234 players enter. 1 Blood DK orc leaves...

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:43:38 EDT

navymaverick posted : Once every 6 hours port every online player (not in dungeon, raid or BG) to WG. No one leaves for an hour. Everyone is flagged, No one can leave, fly, port or move from teh zone.

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 12:07:14 EDT

saillaw posted : Good ideas, I like them.

I do miss world PVP.

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:55:13 EDT

Phantasee posted : /join Worlddefense and hunt them down. I do it when bored.

Re: [PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:32:58 EDT

I AM posted : The game got big. Is it bad? I'm not sure. In Vanilla there was only 2 continents housing all players. BC wasn't bad either. Now there's just too many zones to level and farm that you'll barely run into anyone as well as numbers of players dying down. I still think flying mounts killed world pvp.

[PvP] World PVP / Exploring - How to bring it Back

Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:29:47 EDT

The0_o posted : story short.

On my hunter in Outland, saw 2 blood DKs killing quest givers in thrallmar (A huge pet peeve of mines). So i kill them, 8 times a piece, (dieing twice when i had no CD).

Had a damn good time (killing/kiting scrub ass Blood Dks who think they are hot shit because they can kill an npc puts a smile on my face)

This event got me thinking. In all my time farming rep on my Dk, hunting Rare pets, and doing other shit. I rarely see another soul.
How can we get the players back into the game.

My Ideas :

1) Make trade chat Global :
so you can see if people are doing raids while you are questing / farm / etc.

2) Factions in a PVP daily area
(Like Isle of Quel'Danas) with Tol Barad Like vendors (need rep AND a set amount of tokens for items) Tokens can drop off players (low drop rate - 20% if they give honor) and new items get added every patch (BOP Rings / cloaks equal to the current tiers raid item levels), Lower item level items become BOE.

3) World Bosses with unique Gear.
Similar to the PVP idea, I would like to see kite-able world boss (with huge cleave / aoe attacks and a massive Health pool, 200 million) that drop gear weapons or trinkets with unique effects (like Deathwing weapons or Darkmoon trinkets)

4) More World Events
Have something happen once a week (not during the holiday events). A demon / trogg invasion of a lesser used zone, that will march to the capital if not stopped.

5) World treasure Chest hunt
Picture this :

A gnome/goblin will place a chest in a lesser used zone. the chest will spawn in 1 hour at a set point.

While in the point all players become marked for All out combat (can fight / kill anyone), Honor gained is increased (around 100 Honor per kill), dead players get ported to a graveyard that's about a 15 second run away but cannot attack until they are in the ring. All players are rezzed with full HP and Mana.

The cast time to open the chest is 10 seconds. The chest will drop a random BOE epic (equal to current raid item levels) and a item called "TOOL 3193".

TOOL 3193
"When used All loot drop chances will be reversed for 1 hour"
1 charge

Example : lets say white hawkstrider is a 5% drop chance, the item will switch it to 95%. Items with a 100% drop chance (quest items / gray and white) will not be affected. TOOL 3193 can be traded and / or sold on the AH.

6) Leader events
Faction leaders hold a tournament in older Raids for Gold / rare pets and mounts.
Like a timed VOA / AQ40 / Kara run. Which ever group gets the best time wins by the end of the week wins. These raids are retunned for the max level and drop no loot.

7) Titles
Titles that are earned for silly / insane activities

"Name, The squirrel Slayer" kill 20,000 squirrels
"Name The Blind" - Die by walking off 40 cliffs
"Name, Deaths Lover" - Get killed by a critter
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