Topic 'Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter' in forum 'Cogeco' - dslreports.com

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sun, 13 May 2012 01:44:28 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
Now that I have left Cogeco proper and taken my business to START Communications TPIA with service delivered thru Cogeco's new Ontario POI, I no longer need to lament what kind of usage meter that Cogeco has, nor how it behaves, regarding waiting sometimes 5 days between updates, even near the end of a billing period, nor worry about its accuracy.

Besides I now have a much more generous monthly cap and a lower fee for excess usage above that cap, so it is much less necessary to check any usage meters.

And Cogeco's silly email policies do not affect me any more, as START will communicate with me at the external email address of MY choice, just as it SHOULD be.

BUT, those of you who have stayed with Cogeco are still risking the same issues as I chose to avoid by making this change.

You would be well advised to read thoroughly the current thread, and the one about the 'Usage Based Billing (UBB) Nightmare', »[Burloak] Usage Based Billing Nightmare , as well as the one where Cogeco's CEO Audet says that he doesn't need certain customers »"Undesirable" customers: Cogeco, Audet

Oh yes, and how could I forget THIS thread - the one most near and dear to MY heart - the thread about Cogeco's ridiculous email policies and flawed Webmail client : »Why Cogeco Subscribers are NOT Notified

All of those are in the Cogeco forum.

Then you will be better able to decide what to do with your Internet budget, which, BTW, could stretch farther, as START's rates are lower.

I saved $15 plus HST per month by changing to START.

My Cogeco plan was 30/2 with a 175GB cap.

My Start plan is 16/1 with a 300GB cap.

Neither had contracts nor bundle discounts.

The cap was more important to me than the speed, and your needs may vary from mine.

Both plans need to use a Docsis 3 (D3) modem to work at their best during peak periods - aka minimal congestion.

Cogeco's network currently only approves one model of D3 modem, which is the Cisco DPC3000, with hardware revision 2.

My actual feed thru START is solid and reliable, just as the direct Cogeco feed had proven to be in our community.

That part of things was never an issue for me - Instead the Cogeco politics and policies were, and START runs things in a much more common sense manner, and with better communications from Customer Service.

However, it never hurts to save some money too.

Cheers ! :)

BTW, portions of this post may become part of a review or two.

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sun, 08 Apr 2012 23:40:43 EDT

A Lurker posted : I've done it for over a year and the meter just isn't accurate. Unfortunately my stats don't help anyone here. My personal numbers are always higher than Cogeco's (and yes, I know my router numbers are accurate).

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sun, 08 Apr 2012 19:16:16 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by urbanriot:

....Once you've done that, it's probably not that interesting...

....in which case no point in my bothering - It wouldn't change anything about which I care. ;)

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:12:10 EDT

urbanriot posted :

said by Davesnothere:

Another interesting statistic is how many GOUGEco call centre reps to whom I have spoken this time around (since last December), who have admitted to me that they do not get their OWN services from the company for which they work.

Care to relay this interesting statistic? A statistic involves numbers, by the way.

Cross reference that with how many people work at the call centre outside of Cogeco's coverage area.

Once you've done that, it's probably not that interesting...

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:45:55 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by YumYumHungry:

It may be beneficial to gather a large number of people to monitor the meter and post their results as Dave is doing. Then it is a documented issue....

Thanks, and I fully agree, though I gave up on them, gave notice, and it is done soon. :)

BTW, I was 2 or 3 days into APRIL before they filled in the blanks on my March 31st usage.

USELESS !

Deth-PICC-able ! [Daffy Duck]

Another interesting statistic is how many GOUGEco call centre reps to whom I have spoken this time around (since last December), who have admitted to me that they do not get their OWN services from the company for which they work. :o

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:52:51 EDT

YumYumHungry posted : It may be beneficial to gather a large number of people to monitor the meter and post their results as Dave is doing. Then it is a documented issue that is know to affect many people. It's a great opportunity to have Cogeco fix the issue of the meter or having competitve caps.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:18:01 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by Jinzo:

I hear and see your pain.

At work I constantly fight with Cogeco supporters all day.

For some reason they think the service is great, yet I watch them constantly checking the usage to avoid 'The Gouge'.

Ah Yes, the dreaded notorious 'Gouge-o-Gauge' (tm) :o :mad: :uhh: :huh:

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:10:49 EDT

Jinzo posted : I hear and see you pain. At work I constantly fight with Cogeco supporters all day. For some reason they think the service is great. Yet I watch them constantly checking the usage to avoid the Gouge.

Let us know how the move to to Start goes. I am going to wait to see if Teksavvy will actually pickup the Cogeco cable foot print. I am betting it will be a while, but hopefully things will change.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:15:10 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by dillyhammer:

said by Davesnothere:

It's simply unconscionable that an ISP can be allowed by law to charge for usage when their method of tablulating it is so flawed.

Yup. - I....

I blame the whole stinkin' lot that you mentioned. :mad:

Countdown to Freedom from being Gouged = 10 more sleeps.

My START-up is scheduled for the 12th. :) :)

BTW, : »Cogeco to START - Changeover Logistics

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:03:44 EDT

dillyhammer posted :

said by Davesnothere:

It's simply unconscionable that an ISP can be allowed by law to charge for usage when their method of tablulating it is so flawed.

Yup.

I don't blame Cogeco. They're just doing what any greedy corporation would do, monetizing whatever they can, however they can.

The government is very much to blame here. The Ministry of Industry should be all over this, and they won't touch it with a 10 foot pole for fear of angering their highly concentrated media/telecom monopobuddies.

I'm also going to put a little blame on all these public advocacy groups that draw public funds and donations, make all that noise about affordable internet, and are strangely quiet on the whole meter shenanigans issue.

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:44:14 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
It's simply unconscionable that an ISP can be allowed by law to charge for usage when their method of tablulating it is so flawed.

If we, the public, cannot know how many GB we have used, and these bully incumbent providers refuse to take seriously any metering which WE might happen to do at OUR end, then their caps mean NOTHING, except carte blanche for them to rob us blind (literally - no fucking usage meter is working when we most need it) each and every month, if we agree to conduct business with them.

SHAME !

MAJOR SHAME !

EPIC FAIL, GOUGEco !

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:33:43 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
Just LOOK at this BULLSHIT !

FOUR FUCKING DAYS OF ZEROS showing, DAY FIVE is almost toast, and how the blazes am I supposd to know how much I can download before today is done ?!

UNPROFESSIONAL CRAP !

As I stated above,

GOUGEco's 'Gouge-o-Meter' (tm) is not even 'Hood class ! :o :mad: :uhh: :huh:

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:49:09 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
GOUGEco's 'Gouge-o-Meter' (tm) is not even 'Hood class ! :o :mad: :uhh: :huh:

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:50:06 EDT

dillyhammer posted : While on my business account I had no troubles in that regard, always able to see up-to-date numbers. The accuracy of those numbers is another story.

But there has been no end to the complaints here about easy, consistent access to reliable figures from Cogeco. IMHO, that's something a "world class" usage metering system would provide - something that would even come close to honouring the spirit of Weights & Measures.

Until an edict comes down from a regulator that grows some balls, this will be an ongoing issue for Canadians, sucking millions upon millions out of the economy every month, for quite some time.

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:38:43 EDT

A Lurker posted : The thing I never got is why it can be showing zeros for some customers, and others get their numbers. To me, that's the weirdest thing about it.

I have numbers up to yesterday (although I'm on a business account, I've seen the problem myself at times).

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:59:42 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
STILL BROKEN !

2, now almost 3 days behind.

Unprofessional, and Completely Unsatisfactory for a company who wants to charge UBB !

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:16:54 EDT

SeanDeMarco1 posted : I am almost 9 GB over in usage this month and all of it has been legit, legal downloads. Seriously Cogeco usage is too low. Stop gouging us for money. I also don't like the idea of the meter being allowed to say I am 9 GB over when the meter wasn't even working accurately this month for people. Seriously please make an adjustment to March's bills because there were days where we could not check our meter.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:59:30 EDT

Farchord posted : Sorry, didnt know you meant in cable companies. Here in quebec we only have 1 cable company per region, so yeah, they're both the worse and best at the same time here ;)

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:56:58 EDT

ruddypict posted :

said by neko:

I concur with your evaluation of the situation, Sir. I believe GougeCo is the worst cable company in canada, without a doubt.

said by Farchord:

I don't know about you guys in ontario, but here in Quebec, Bell is worse....

I don't know about in Quebec, but here in Ontario, Bell is not a cable company.

Pesky mod note: edited a bit of the edge.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:36:23 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by Farchord:

I don't know about you guys in ontario, but here in Quebec, Bell is worse....

Are you bragging ? ;)

It seems to me that they each have flavours of BS in which they best excel.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:43:04 EDT

Farchord posted :

said by neko:

said by ruddypict:

said by n3k0 :

If they did that, they'd have no additional revenue stream. The $$$ GougeCo suck, like some digital incubus, from the pockets, & bank accounts of their ~~victims~~ users, would dry up pretty fast.

Digital incubus made me LOL.

But honestly, with an incubus you can assume you're getting some pleasure out of the deal. Maybe "Digital Prison Forced Loving" would be better. :D

I concur with your evaluation of the situation, Sir. I believe GougeCo is the worst cable company in canada, without a doubt.

I don't know about you guys in ontario, but here in Quebec, Bell is worse....

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sat, 24 Mar 2012 23:14:46 EDT

neko posted :

said by ruddypict:

said by n3k0 :

If they did that, they'd have no additional revenue stream. The $$$ GougeCo suck, like some digital incubus, from the pockets, & bank accounts of their ~~victims~~ users, would dry up pretty fast.

Digital incubus made me LOL.

But honestly, with an incubus you can assume you're getting some pleasure out of the deal. Maybe "Digital Prison Forced Loving" would be better. :D

I concur with your evaluation of the situation, Sir. I believe GougeCo is the worst cable company in canada, without a doubt.
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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:12:04 EDT

ruddypict posted :

said by n3k0 :

If they did that, they'd have no additional revenue stream. The $$$ GougeCo suck, like some digital incubus, from the pockets, & bank accounts of their ~~victims~~ users, would dry up pretty fast.

Digital incubus made me LOL.

But honestly, with an incubus you can assume you're getting some pleasure out of the deal. Maybe "Digital Prison Forced Loving" would be better. :D

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:48:55 EDT

Trist posted : Thanks for the heads-up on Bell. I did some research on their CS and read many useful user comments here and on other forums and ruled out not just Bell, but DSL. I may try the new cable reseller at some point but for now I am sticking with the devil I know.

I did call in and, last week, have a service call that took care of my issue which was surprising to me since it had all signs of being another congestion issue but was instead only the the modem. The technicians replaced it, trimmed and recapped some cable and all was well again. Better speed than I've ever had, in fact. Also, from the Tech I learned that the higher end packages are, and have been since last year, available to me.

I'm still on what was Standard and so I am upgrading, this Thursday, to the Ultimate 30 for an extra $9/monthly. I only once used over 80GB (since the jump from 60GB) so I'll be able to do much more online with less worry about the meter, which I still don't find updates up-to-date. It's a huge difference in cap, more than I can imagine using, but I'd rather pay the extra $9 than what what I paid last November when I did go well over, with no second warning ever being sent!! And I did find a small utility, as it seems everyone else has, that does a decent job monitoring correct usage from my main computer (my netbook sees little usage as it's for writing and browsing, and neither of my phones makes much of a dent) so I can monitor myself and remain well under the U30 package cap.

Hopefully Cogeco will work on a better monitoring process but with the exception of raising prices they have always been slow on everything internet related so not holding my breath.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:00:55 EDT

anon posted : Seriously forget broken usage meters. What happened with trying to do away with usage billing or at least give us more value for what we pay for ? If you were a person invited to do Tera beta testing this month and GW2 beta testing guess how much usage you would use up with just those two downloads ? These usage limitations are ridiculous and they actually have stopped me from doing a 7 day trial of SWTOR. I think my next step is telling companies well I didn't try this game or download this program cuz of my internet providers usage caps and therefore you lose the opportunity to make money off me. If enough people complain and companies see a connection to it limiting their profits maybe they will do something about it.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:32:47 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
Ain't it the TRUTH ! :huh:

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:26:34 EDT

anon posted : If they did that, they'd have no additional revenue stream. The $$$ GougeCo suck, like some digital incubus, from the pockets, & bank accounts of their ~~victims~~ users, would dry up pretty fast.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:30:19 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
I have not checked yet today.

However, if GOUGEco was forced (by a new LAW) to NOT COUNT the usage for the whole day, each day that their usage meter was offline for more than say an hour, or to waive the previous day's usage on any occasion that they had not posted that previous day's usage by a specified hour (noon of the next day, maybe), THAT would be fair by ME, IMNSHO.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:33:01 EDT

bigluke posted : Yet again, the meter's been broken for me all day. "Sorry for the inconvenience" rings a tad hollow, these days. Cogeco, you're a bunch of crooks.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Wed, 14 Mar 2012 02:17:16 EDT

Gixxer posted : Glad I'm a business user, sure I pay a little more and my speed isn't as fast for their STARTER package, but I don't have to worry about the meter as I've been greatly over their 120GB cap without charge constantly. I am looking forward to switch, I remember when I called in to cancel my TV -- they were shocked that I found a better deal and were willing to give me a $2 monthly discount... That's right a WHOLE two fucking dollars if I signed a 1 year contract. I hope start.ca doesn't suck.
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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:33:28 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
This was at 4:30 AM today.

However, they had caught up all 3 of those days when I recehecked a few minutes ago.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:26:05 EDT

cog_biz_user posted : i checked my stats for yesterday this morning, but they weren't posted. they are now though... 1069/91 - smoothwall says 1gb/79mb... it seems mine is consistent to be a touch higher on the upload side.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:28:16 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
Still NADA for 9th & 10th.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:20:41 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by dillyhammer:

said by cog_biz_user:

I wonder if the DST change has anything to do with that

LMAO... if I see a headline on the DSLr front page along the lines of "DST Confuses Cogeco Meter" I'm going to take the day off and get drunk on some cheapass wine.

You should be able to afford some notsocheapass wine, with all the cash you saved in your switch ! :p

But not much surprises me anymore these days.

Maybe the birds and squirrels perching on or running along the cable to & from the pole are confusing GOUGEco's meter when it tries to count THEM TOO ! :o

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:11:40 EDT

dillyhammer posted :

said by cog_biz_user:

I wonder if the DST change has anything to do with that

LMAO... if I see a headline on the DSLr front page along the lines of "DST Confuses Cogeco Meter" I'm going to take the day off and get drunk on some cheapass wine.

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:30:45 EDT

cog_biz_user posted : Looks like my luck ran out. No early stats today. I wonder if the DST change has anything to do with that, or the fact that today is Sunday. I'll check back this afternoon. :hmm:

edit: (3pm)Here we go... 1232/131 - smoothwall says 1.2gb/119mb.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:38:00 EDT

cog_biz_user posted : you got some bad luck there dave...

my stats for yesterday are in early again... 1668/155 - smoothwall says 1.6gb/142mb.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Sat, 10 Mar 2012 05:29:36 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
7th & 8th showing now, 9th owing - just checked again now.

Not sure when update happened but was not there yet when I checked between 10 & 11 pm last evening.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Fri, 09 Mar 2012 14:15:54 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by Davesnothere:

I just checked the Cogeco usage meter again, and like the Pink Elephant, it's STILL NOT GOING ! ....

....It's a DEAD PARROT ! (and THIS time, I'm NOT laughing)

Pining for the Fiords ?

What kind of talk is that ?!

2 days delinquent again. :uhh: :huh:

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Fri, 09 Mar 2012 07:56:14 EDT

cog_biz_user posted : yesterday's stats... 2297/128 - smoothwall says 2.2gb/115mb.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Thu, 08 Mar 2012 15:18:00 EDT

dillyhammer posted : I've seen Cogeco's usage numbers skewed in my favour a few times. Rare, but it has happened.

IMHO, it's just as bad. Inaccurate is inaccurate.

Mike

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:08:10 EDT

cog_biz_user posted :

said by Davesnothere:

I have not so far tested MINE for accuracy, but just curious - have you ever seen theirs be wrong in YOUR favour ?

BTW, MINE has just caught up today, and now only owes me results for the 7th of March.

i'm not sure if it's ever been skewed in my favour, but this the first time i've actually sat down day-to-day and verified it.

my stats for yesterday are posted... 3382/204 - smoothwall says 3.2gb/187mb... so it would seem my upload is off by ~50mb in the past 3 days.
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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Thu, 08 Mar 2012 00:53:14 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by cog_biz_user:

mine's still working, but there is a slight skew for yesterday.

smoothwall says 158mb uploaded, cogeco says 187mb.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:06:40 EDT

cog_biz_user posted : mine's still working, but there is a slight skew for yesterday.

smoothwall says 2.7gb downloaded / 158mb uploaded, cogeco says 187mb.

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Wed, 07 Mar 2012 13:10:49 EDT

dillyhammer posted :

said by Davesnothere:

Especially when they find out that B#ELL is really B$ELL ! :o

And how. I've seen a lot of people, myself included, get rooked in by TGTBT start up deals only to suffer later. Double-billing, shock invoices, bills for stuff never ordered, credit card and bank account dipping long after accounts closed.... it goes on and on.

I haven't had a bill from B#ell since May 2008. Lovin' it.

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Wed, 07 Mar 2012 13:09:44 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
I just checked the Cogeco usage meter again, and like the Pink Elephant, it's STILL NOT GOING !

Cogeco has to get it together on the accessories.

First their crappy non-functional eMail forwarding, and now THIS !

Their feed itself is solid and fast, but if they expect to charge folks based upon how much traffic they are generating, then it is only fair to TELL them how much they are generating, and do it EVERY DAY, not this 'once in a while' bullshit !

This is FOUR DAYS of DOWNTIME, this stretch !

Pathetic !

Time to call M. E. Quincy !

It's a DEAD PARROT ! (and THIS time, I'm NOT laughing)

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Wed, 07 Mar 2012 13:03:42 EDT

Davesnothere posted :

said by dillyhammer:

....Eventually the honeymoon will wear off with B#ell, and you may well end up regretting your decision.

Especially when they find out that B#ELL is really B$ELL ! :o

Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:31:08 EDT

dillyhammer posted :

said by Trist:

On a better note I contacted Bell and can have a much more generous package (something like 20 or 24 MB downstream) with a higher a cap and at a ridiculous low price for the first 12-months. No commitment required. Making a list of important email contacts to move them away then I've had it with Cogeco.

I would encourage you to speak to an indie or two if you plan on going to DSL. Some of the indies offer FTTN speeds, with extremely large caps. Most do not meter usage during late evenings and early mornings.

Some of them are doing promos for March.

»[DSL] Lucky Month of March Promo

Eventually the honeymoon will wear off with B#ell, and you may well end up regretting your decision.

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Re: Cogeco's Broken Usage Meter

Wed, 07 Mar 2012 00:12:44 EDT

Davesnothere posted :
Bear in mind, folks, that I'm not saying that it is necessarily inaccurate, but it can be AWOL for days at a time, such as in my 1st screenshot.

That's why I began this thread, to demonstrate that it just fucks off for a vacation here and there.

That's not good either.
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