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morisato

join:2008-03-16
Oshawa, ON
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reply to CANADIANSOUP

Re: Start Communications - new TPIA Rogers/Cogeco

said by CANADIANSOUP:

Thanks for the info Oinktastic

SO from what Oinktastic & brassy mentioned... It's best if I stick with Rogers

Not really soup, Sticking with rogers won;t be very different at all than going with start except you will pay more for less, Aggregated Customers will be on the Exact same paths as Rogers customers. hence for your Gaming/ping etc.. Internal rogers network wise no slowdowns and they peer with torix, cogent,bell etc.. lots of peering partners for pingability paths
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Every time Someone leaves Sympatico an Angel gets its wings.


rocca
Start.ca
Premium
join:2008-11-16
London, ON
kudos:11

reply to captnhammer

said by captnhammer:

So what speed would Cogeco users on the 16Mbps service get? Specifically in Bright's Grove (Sarnia)?

If you PM me your address I can verify what packages would be available for you.


Farchord
Lost somewhere.

join:2004-08-28
Shawinigan, QC
kudos:1

reply to rocca
Guess I'll stick with what I have until someone in Quebec begins to do Cogeco TPIA!


CANADIANSOUP

join:2011-06-27
Mississauga, ON

reply to brassy
Thanks for the info Oinktastic

SO from what Oinktastic & brassy mentioned... It's best if I stick with Rogers



brassy

join:2004-01-09
Brantford, ON
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..

reply to rocca
Only concern I have is oversaturation of your network.

Reading the teksavvy forums, its quite obvious cable can get saturated very easily and Rogers is slow as molasses in doing updates. And when it is saturated, it an be quite slow during primetime..

And I assume you guys are going to get tons of requests (especially from Cogeco and the other Rogers areas not currently served or under stopsell)... = good chance of saturation..??

Otherwise, Im sooo tempted.... sick of this dsl..



Oinktastic
Let them use fibre

join:2005-08-24
Scarborough
kudos:2
Reviews:
·localphone.com
·TekSavvy DSL

reply to CANADIANSOUP

said by CANADIANSOUP:

let's forget about it... I still have 3 months left in my Rogers contract anyways.. can't do anything about it now.
sorry to have wasted your time

The internet never forgets

All of the basics were covered in the link that was originally posted.

Non-Aggregated
1. Your ISP gets slightly more control over your traffic
1b. Rogers doesn't throttle in this setup (will stop soon they say)
2. Used to be cheaper for your ISP, but since capacity-based billing was implemented, I'm not sure anymore
3. Your ISP has to purchase capacity and aggregation links for each POI individually from Rogers, which gets costly and with Rogers' recent delays in installing new capacity, can lead to congestion occurring at one or more POIs

Aggregated Benefits
1. One point for all traffic to move between your ISP and Rogers
2. Rogers charges more per user for this setup, but capacity is spread over more users, potentially lessening the cost for capacity
3. Rogers gets more control in this case since more of the distance is covered on their own equipment

I'm probably missing something important. Hopefully others will chime in.

If your ISP has a non-aggregated setup and is able to keep their available capacity above what the users need, then this method should be just as fast, or faster, than the aggregated method.

In the aggregated setup, Rogers controls the traffic until it reaches your ISP. There is still speculation about how much they will choose to control IISP traffic.

Unfortunately, that all doesn't really prove anything specific, but I would suspect that the aggregated POI setup on an IISP will yield a user-experience very close to what Rogers offers their own customers. The non-aggregated setup has the potential to be quicker in terms of pings and responsiveness, but only if Rogers keeps up with the upgrades.

I think...


captnhammer

join:2011-02-01
Calgary

reply to rocca
So what speed would Cogeco users on the 16Mbps service get? Specifically in Bright's Grove (Sarnia)?


QL0G1C

join:2007-02-20
Concord, ON

reply to rocca
I will wait for unlimited or even that same type of deal teksavvy has with a time frame for unlimited


CANADIANSOUP

join:2011-06-27
Mississauga, ON

reply to rocca

said by rocca:

Me too. What was the question you needed answering still?

let's forget about it... I still have 3 months left in my Rogers contract anyways.. can't do anything about it now.
sorry to have wasted your time


rocca
Start.ca
Premium
join:2008-11-16
London, ON
kudos:11

reply to Spare
Best Christmas movie ever!



Spare

join:2004-04-14
min2p6

reply to rocca
O M F G Thank you!

After looking at Hells remote roll out list for remotes (and not seeing one near me) I thought I was gonna be stuck on a 1meg interleaved dsl connection for ever.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XEaeOxqy_4


Night Owl

join:2008-10-23
London, ON

reply to Davesnothere

said by Davesnothere:

said by Night Owl:

Will we be permitted to bring our own modem?

The site only lists a rental option ($5.00/month) or purchase option ($69.95-->DOCSIS 2 or $$99.95-->DOCSIS 3).

Hey, also noticed they have a free shipping promo on purchased modems.

 
I missed that part.

Where was it said ?

It wasn't actually said anywhere. Me, being the inquisitive person I am, went through the steps to place an order just to see what it would cost and it shows up there.

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What the large print giveth, the small print taketh away. - Anonymous

peterboro
Avatars are for posers
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join:2006-11-03
Peterborough, ON

reply to dillyhammer

said by dillyhammer:

The only downside is there is a growing number of people that are refusing to do business this way, letting companies tap into their cash like that.

I refuse to do any online banking or automatic with-drawls. Send me a paper bill which I will audit on a line by line basis and I will go into the bank and pay cash or I don't do business with you.


rocca
Start.ca
Premium
join:2008-11-16
London, ON
kudos:11

reply to CANADIANSOUP

said by CANADIANSOUP:

said by Gone:

said by rocca:

Sorry I missed your question, what is it you were asking?

You already answered it when you mentioned your transit partners and the peering at torix.

Ok, now I'm really lost...

Me too. What was the question you needed answering still?


TwiztedZero
Nine Zero Burp Nine Six
Premium
join:2011-03-31
Toronto, ON
kudos:3
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable

reply to dillyhammer

said by dillyhammer:

Also, you can always head over to the Cogeco forum and find out who all the troublemakers are so you can keep them off your network.

Lulz @ Ur remark. +1

CANADIANSOUP

join:2011-06-27
Mississauga, ON

reply to Gone

said by Gone:

said by rocca:

Sorry I missed your question, what is it you were asking?

You already answered it when you mentioned your transit partners and the peering at torix.

Ok, now I'm really lost...


Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..

reply to rocca

said by rocca:

Sorry I missed your question, what is it you were asking?

You already answered it when you mentioned your transit partners and the peering at torix.


rocca
Start.ca
Premium
join:2008-11-16
London, ON
kudos:11

reply to CANADIANSOUP

said by CANADIANSOUP:

said by CANADIANSOUP:

The reason why I'm asking is because I'm a console gamer and I do not want any latency, lag/delays, or internet issues
Is it better than being with rogers or tek? and in what way
Total noob when it comes with internet tech/lingo

HMM no replies, I guess I'll stick with Robbers

Sorry I missed your question, what is it you were asking?


rocca
Start.ca
Premium
join:2008-11-16
London, ON
kudos:11

reply to dillyhammer

said by dillyhammer:

I don't think it's a poor way to do business. It does mitigate receivables problems and for many people, it's convenient.

The receivables is a relatively large problem unfortunately with post-paid billing and I'd rather have people on the phone helping customers than trying to chase down payment issues. That said, we are investigating a pre-invoice system where you get a bill a week in advance and can pay it online, hopefully something like that is available in a few months.

said by dillyhammer:

Well, congratulations for firing up TPIA in Cogecoland. ... Cheers, and Good Luck.

Thanks Mike.

CANADIANSOUP

join:2011-06-27
Mississauga, ON

reply to CANADIANSOUP

said by CANADIANSOUP:

The reason why I'm asking is because I'm a console gamer and I do not want any latency, lag/delays, or internet issues
Is it better than being with rogers or tek? and in what way
Total noob when it comes with internet tech/lingo

HMM no replies, I guess I'll stick with Robbers
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