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Gone
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Fort Erie, ON
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reply to Dunlop

Re: Start Communications - new TPIA Rogers/Cogeco

Their tool breaks... often. It also won't do a lookup for someone who already has DSL.

When it works it works well, though.


jasmo34

join:2008-03-20
London, ON

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reply to rocca

Re: Start Communications - 25M & 50M DSL Available

Well, earlier posts talked about the new DSL qualification tool; I suppose it wouldn't hurt to mention the new DSL plans here in Mega-Thread...

25/10 and 50/10 DSL plans now available on the Start website...
»start.ca/services/highspeed

More info (and promo special) in the Start junior forum also...
»Higher speed DSL packages (and promo)

Aargh... new-page delay, again! I wish DSLR would FIX this bug!


jasmo34

join:2008-03-20
London, ON
Ba-da-bump!


Davesnothere
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Ladies & Germs, may I present, for your viewing and posting pleasure, Page # 86 !

Smile fo' da camera, new page !

BTW, incrementing the number at the right of the address by 20 makes a hidden page visible, folks.

And 4th post (like this one) births the new page.


Guspaz
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reply to Gone

Re: Start Communications - new TPIA Rogers/Cogeco

said by Gone:

Their tool breaks... often. It also won't do a lookup for someone who already has DSL.

When it works it works well, though.

Bell will do a lookup for somebdoy who has GAS or FTTN-GAS service, it just won't do lookups for Bell customers. In that case, however, you can do the lookup through the Bell customer service portal.

EDIT: Start's lookup doesn't work for me, I also get the Bell host error.
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jasmo34

join:2008-03-20
London, ON
I got some sort of "Bell Redirect" error on Start's new lookup; I just retried a couple times and it then worked, with the exact same input params!

docbill

join:2006-10-24
Stoney Creek, ON
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reply to jasmo34

Re: Start Communications - 25M & 50M DSL Available

If only this came at the beginning of the month. I finally decided to cancel Bell. I signed up with Velcom to replace my DSL service. The reviews for Velcom are not that good, but the price is right, and since I already have cable internet from Start, the DSL is just for the peace of mind of having two alternative connections available to avoid outages. I would have loved to have gone with Start for the DSL, but at the time there was no competitive package available.


BurlingtonGy

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reply to rocca

Re: Start Communications - new TPIA Rogers/Cogeco

Well..Cogeco just added 100 more gigs to the Ultimate 30 plan. Now Starts plan is 30/200 and Cogeco's is 30/275 ..guess they got tired of people leaving. Sorry...going to stay with Cogeco now.


rocca
Start.ca
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Understood, we're not for everyone. Some things to keep in mind though would be that we're still $22/mo cheaper and have unlimited 2am to 8am which at 30Mbps is almost 3000 GB's of possible free usage too.

geokilla

join:2010-10-04
North York, ON
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said by rocca:

Understood, we're not for everyone. Some things to keep in mind though would be that we're still $22/mo cheaper and have unlimited 2am to 8am which at 30Mbps is almost 3000 GB's of possible free usage too.

But realistically, who will stay up or set their computer so it downloads from 2am to 8am... Just saying


rednekcowboy

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said by geokilla:

said by rocca:

Understood, we're not for everyone. Some things to keep in mind though would be that we're still $22/mo cheaper and have unlimited 2am to 8am which at 30Mbps is almost 3000 GB's of possible free usage too.

But realistically, who will stay up or set their computer so it downloads from 2am to 8am... Just saying

Why would you stay up? You can schedule your downloads to run at that timeframe, it's not difficult to do.

Why do people have to shit all over something that is given to them. If Ebox did this, I would most certainly do the majority of my downloading in that time period.


Gone
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I don't think people are intentionally shitting on it so much as they are trying to grasp at whatever they can to try and justify the higher costs they pay to stay with an incumbent.


JCohen
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reply to geokilla
said by geokilla:

said by rocca:

Understood, we're not for everyone. Some things to keep in mind though would be that we're still $22/mo cheaper and have unlimited 2am to 8am which at 30Mbps is almost 3000 GB's of possible free usage too.

But realistically, who will stay up or set their computer so it downloads from 2am to 8am... Just saying

I posted this last week »Download Manager (Firefox Addon), it's a download manager addon for Firefox and it has a scheduler built in.


Guspaz
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reply to rocca

1,118 GB total, 183GB billable.
I don't know if Start also doesn't count upstream, but here's a shot of my TekSavvy usage for March. I was not taking advantage of the new policies all month (most of the off-peak bandwidth was the past week as I scheduled a lot of backlogged stuff).

This is a good example of how you can get a lot of bang for your buck. I have a 300GB cap. In practice, the upstream and off-peak bandwidth isn't costing my ISP anything anyhow.
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DeViLzzz

join:2004-07-29
Sarnia, ON
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reply to JCohen
Ah yes Firefox. The browser that acted so ****** up for weeks recently that I had to remove it from my computer. Pretty bad when IE is running better than Firefox and omg I actually also installed Google Chrome when I don't want to be using Google products. It is going to be hard to use that addon you suggested JCohen when I can't get that Firefox browser to behave.


rocca
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reply to geokilla
said by geokilla:

But realistically, who will stay up or set their computer so it downloads from 2am to 8am... Just saying

Based on the amount of free usage every night, quite a few.


JCohen
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reply to DeViLzzz
I've had issues with Firefox in the past that I ended up just creating a new Firefox profile and everything was working again, this might be an option for you even if you only use Firefox just for DownThemAll.


JCohen
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reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz:

I don't know if Start also doesn't count upstream...

Start is not counting upstream against a users cap.

DeViLzzz

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reply to JCohen
Ok already lost with DownThemAll. I went to download a file and saw nothing about setting up a time to download it. If I need to type out all sorts of commands and bs I can't do it. Heck I never even was taught html so bye bye Firefox and bye bye DownThemAll.

Glad I didn't switch yet from my grandfathered 300 GB per month cuz I am not finding a simple solution to download at certain times.

Eh I guess I could set my alarm clock to wake me at 2 am and 8 am n deal with downloads that way if I switch. LOLOLOL

Guru

join:2008-10-01
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reply to rocca
Here is mine, I did last month.


JCohen
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said by Guru:

Here is mine, I did last month.

Nice, what plan are you on?

Guru

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·TekSavvy DSL
said by JCohen:

said by Guru:

Here is mine, I did last month.

Nice, what plan are you on?

60/2/300


Guspaz
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reply to rocca
I just set uTorrent to have unlimited periods between 2 and 8, and limited the rest of the time. I set the limited speed at 50KB/s downstream (no upstream limit), and no limit the rest of the time.

There's no manual action required, it's all automatic. I just dump torrents into uTorrent, and it handles the bandwidth stuff. If I actually want something immediately rather than waiting, I just temporarily raise the limit (two clicks on the icon in the system tray), then set it back after.
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Sanek

join:2006-08-10
Kanata, ON
reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz:

I don't know if Start also doesn't count upstream, but here's a shot of my TekSavvy usage for March. I was not taking advantage of the new policies all month (most of the off-peak bandwidth was the past week as I scheduled a lot of backlogged stuff).

This is a good example of how you can get a lot of bang for your buck. I have a 300GB cap. In practice, the upstream and off-peak bandwidth isn't costing my ISP anything anyhow.

Quite a lot of people watch Netflix, Twitch.tv, YouTube and other similar services that just eat up bandwidth (not to mention online game purchases and downloads getting bigger and bigger).

I love the off-peak downloads, but I think the alloted peak cap may not be large enough for normal usage anymore (or getting there).

What if you have multiple people watching youtube/Netflix/twitch at the same time? What if you have an IPTV service?

Traditional cap model would need to change in the future IMO. Not sure what it will become - probably not "unlimited", but exceptions could be made for some services (i.e. Youtube, which is heavily cached anyways).


Guspaz
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reply to rocca
Even a SuperHD Netflix stream is only about 3.5 GB/hr, and IPTV is typically less than that...
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Davesnothere
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reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz:

I don't know if Start also doesn't count upstream, but here's a shot of my TekSavvy usage for March. I was not taking advantage of the new policies all month (most of the off-peak bandwidth was the past week as I scheduled a lot of backlogged stuff).

This is a good example of how you can get a lot of bang for your buck. I have a 300GB cap. In practice, the upstream and off-peak bandwidth isn't costing my ISP anything anyhow.

 
Tsk, Tsk - By that screenshot, it looks like TSI is still referring to monthly usage as bandwidth - SHAME !


Davesnothere
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reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz:

I just set uTorrent to have unlimited periods between 2 and 8, and limited the rest of the time. I set the limited speed at 50KB/s downstream (no upstream limit), and no limit the rest of the time.

There's no manual action required, it's all automatic. I just dump torrents into uTorrent, and it handles the bandwidth stuff. If I actually want something immediately rather than waiting, I just temporarily raise the limit (two clicks on the icon in the system tray), then set it back after.

 
In what version did uT add THAT degree of function control ?

And are there any OTHER reasons which might make it worth my while to move to a newer version from my otherwise perfectly functioning 2.0.1 ?

I did notice that mine would optionally let me set a monthly usage cap to not exceed, though.

Sanek

join:2006-08-10
Kanata, ON
reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz:

Even a SuperHD Netflix stream is only about 3.5 GB/hr, and IPTV is typically less than that...

OK, let's crunch the numbers a bit:
- Say you're watching SuperHD Netflix 3 hours a day 7 days a week - that's 3 * 7 * 4 * 3.5 GB = 294 GB.
- I would say a 1080p transmission would need a minimum of 1MB/sec (could be more or less than that depending on service). Assuming the same 3 hours/day, usage per month is:
(1 * 60 * 60 * 3 * 7 * 4) / 1024 = ~295 GB
- You can probably assume similar numbers for 1080p YouTube.

What if you have 2 people using these services at the same time on the same connection? What if you want to use your Internet for other things as well?

Bandwidth usage grows every year and it's getting to the point soon when the alloted caps just will not be enough (if we're not there already).


Guspaz
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said by Davesnothere:

In what version did uT add THAT degree of function control ?

I don't know what version it was added, but some googling shows that uTorrent already had the scheduler 6 years ago...
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Davesnothere
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said by Guspaz:

....some googling shows that uTorrent already had the scheduler 6 years ago...

 
....which indubitably paints me as a late adopter.

Of course, 6 years ago, we had not even gotten AROUND to fighting nor bitching about ISPs' throttling nor UBB, let alone concerning ourselves with bandwidth capacity management as we do with today's draconian CBB rules.