[DTA] question on Digital Economy and DTAs One caveat I should let people know about -- at least in my market. You get one regular non HD cable box included with the Economy TV package. We own 2 standard def. TV's. First TV is covered by that free box. However, for our second TV, we could NOT get by with one of those small digital adapter boxes with no monthly rental fee. those DTA's only can be used with Digital Starter (aka the standard package) or a higher level of programming. That is what I have been told by Comcast. The filtering employed to give you the Digital Economy is not compatible with those DTA's.
True or bogus ?
Depends on if your market is getting ready to finish up on analog reclaimation on limited/DE/Family subs. When your market DOES, then that's when you WILL be able to get DTA's on those service levels.
They are in the process of doing this in our area & just sent out pricing notices that currently these subs CAN get 2 DTA's for no charge, on top of their 1 free digital box.
Is there any way I can find this out? What if I gave you the zip code for one of the towns in our local franchise?
Anyway -- thanks a lot for this good news. I'm thinking of getting the Blast Plus package and this second TV issue means a lot to me.
I don't know if/where CC has their migration plans online, sorry - normally when you actually get the mailer with this info, is when they tell everyone.
Maybe someone here in your area will know & chime in...
we had the first "digital migration" back in 09 / 10 that's when everybody who wasn't interested in getting a big box was told they MUST get a DTA. However our local CC store tells people that the DTAs cannot be used for digital economy. I don't know if they are saying this out of truth or ignorance.
said by kevcallaway:A post in this thread on "Digital Economy Service channel line up" in the Comcast Help and Support Forums (»forums.comcast.com/t5/Channels-a···/1008021) seems to support that statement:
However our local CC store tells people that the DTAs cannot be used for digital economy. I don't know if they are saying this out of truth or ignorance.
"You can expect most the following channels in addition to the limited basic local channels in your area. You do not get any On-Demand, and adding the new small DTA adapters only get you limited basic channels, not the Digital Economy tier on extra TV's.
For extra TV's you need to pay the full monthly fee for a full set top box to receive Digital Economy on extra TV's. The price for Digital Economy is on top of the limited basic tier of service.
Fox News Channel
The Weather Channel
TV Guide Network
Comcast Network 100
CSPAN 2 News & Info
Cable Marketplace 1
Cable Marketplace 3
Music Choice Music
A subscription to Basic Service is required to receive other services or levels of service of video programming. Some services require a CableCARD or a receiver and remote at an additional charge.
To receive channels offered in HD, a HD television (not provided), HDTV equipment and subscription to the channel's service level or underlying premium service are required."
What's strange is that I receive most of these channels on my DTAs. Is that because I have Digital Prefered service, or because I'm on a Cisco/SA system?
If you have digital preferred on your main TV -- you will get everything that is in digital starter on your 2nd TV with the DTA, except for on demand and music choice.
OK, I guess it might be that when a customer signs up for Digital Economy service, their DTAs are set so that their "privacy mode" decryption* capability is not activated, therefore they can only receive the clear QAM limited-basic channels.
For customers who subscribe to digital starter tier service or higher (like me), their DTA's privacy mode decryption could then be activated.
* DTAs use a weaker, lower-level encryption scheme ("privacy mode") used on the expanded basic channels. Full digital STBs, however, also handle the stronger, higher-level encryption scheme ("conditional access") that is used on the higher-tier channels. See: »www.lightreading.com/document.as···lr_cable
i know pricing varies from market to market and i don't have my price list in front of me -- but any idea what CC is charging for a full box non HD -- as a second box in the home ?
On my last bill, the monthly charge for a full box ("digital converter") is $2.45, but it is shown as part of a $9.25 "Additional Outlet" fee.
As I have some HD boxes and subscribe to HD service, my bill also includes a $9.95 "HD Technology Fee."
reply to kevcallaway
Actually digital economy is a tier between limited and digital starter. If you subscribe to digital economy you can get a full digital box for 1.95 a month without the 9.25 additional outlet fee. the full digital box will have free VOD disabled and you can only get the channels in the digital economy package but they dont charge full price for it.
said by rody_44:Yes, an "Additional Outlet" fee is only charged for any extra boxes after those included with your package. The cost seems to also depend on the package (as well as your area).
If you subscribe to digital economy you can get a full digital box for 1.95 a month without the 9.25 additional outlet fee. the full digital box will have free VOD disabled and you can only get the channels in the digital economy package but they dont charge full price for it.
The charges for my extra DTA show one for a $1.49 "Additional Outlet Service" and then another $0.50 one for "Digital Adapter and Remote Control," totaling to the standard $1.99 cost for "extra DTAs."
reply to kevcallaway
I know the area you are in so I can tell you what can be done.
DTA with economy can be done but you only get basic cable on TV it is connected to. If you want all the economy channels you need a digital A/O and it is $9.95/month. rody_44 below mentioned the digital adaptor being only $1.95 but that is only if you have basic cable.