 imtim83I hate those people so muchPremium join:2001-06-03 Kenner, LA | reply to Babar
Re: [Newsgroups] Newsgroups and DMCA Takedowns I don't know if I should tell you are not because I don't know if you are a spy. I will say anyway.
Newsleecher Supersearch of course. Newsgroup header indexing sites like binsearch, etc. |
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 BabarPremium join:2001-05-09 Washington | Oh, OK.
It sounded like you had some super stealthy solution...
Babar, non-spy  -- "Geez, I'm goin' crazy out there at the lake." |
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 imtim83I hate those people so muchPremium join:2001-06-03 Kenner, LA | said by Babar:Oh, OK.
It sounded like you had some super stealthy solution...
Babar, non-spy  For some it may be. Those who don't know newsgroups. |
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 | How does binsearch bypass DMCA? You still have to pull the articles from your provider in the end so if it doesn't have it, you are shit out of luck. |
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 | reply to AndrewW giganews has turned out to be a pos...there's stuff just 20 days old that already isn't available...not good for the $25/mo package i'm paying now...
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 AndrewW join:2009-03-07 Toronto, ON kudos:1 1 edit | reply to sandman_1 said by sandman_1:How does binsearch bypass DMCA? You still have to pull the articles from your provider in the end so if it doesn't have it, you are shit out of luck. I would like to know as well!
Earlier you mentioned that Astraweb has problems filling posts in a certain age range. Why then does it not have peering arrangements with other providers to fill those gaps? |
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 AndrewW join:2009-03-07 Toronto, ON kudos:1 | reply to nynjspeed said by nynjspeed:giganews has turned out to be a pos...there's stuff just 20 days old that already isn't available...not good for the $25/mo package i'm paying now...
Astraweb is the way to go now i take it? I'm not sure that Astraweb is the way to go at least for me. For some weird reason I keep getting this stalling issue with them which I have never been able to resolve. Be that as it may, a lot of people are switching over to Astraweb and report they are able to download a lot of the stuff which is just unavailable on Giganews but it certainly isn't nirvana. I'm testing out Ngroups right now and I'm trying to get this 128 day old post of a major release that was not available on Highwinds or some of the other providers including GN. Ngroups is trying to download it through Astraweb. I guess they have a peering arrangement with them and it is missing from Astraweb as well. |
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| said by AndrewW:Ngroups is trying to download it through Astraweb. I guess they have a peering arrangement with them and it is missing from Astraweb as well. That is not how it works. It sounds like you have a newsreader (probably SabNZB) that shows MSG IDs in the logs / status tab. This just reflects who the article was posted through originally, not who it is downloading from. -- Usenet Block Accounts | Unlimited Accounts |
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 AndrewW join:2009-03-07 Toronto, ON kudos:1 | said by swintec:said by AndrewW:Ngroups is trying to download it through Astraweb. I guess they have a peering arrangement with them and it is missing from Astraweb as well. That is not how it works. It sounds like you have a newsreader (probably SabNZB) that shows MSG IDs in the logs / status tab. This just reflects who the article was posted through originally, not who it is downloading from. You're right. I do use Sabnzbd+ and I guess I misinterpreted the domain name in the connections tab. Thanks for pointing that out. Regardless, the post I 'm trying to get is still most likely missing from Astraweb given the fact that it was not there a few weeks ago when I tried to download it from them. |
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| reply to AndrewW It always pays to have a back up server to use as well. But first do you have the US server as primary and the EU one as a backup in sabnzbd? If not, I would do that first.
Second you can get a free account from xsusenet to help fill in the gaps: »www.xsusenet.com/en/ |
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 AndrewW join:2009-03-07 Toronto, ON kudos:1 | said by unoriginal:It always pays to have a back up server to use as well. But first do you have the US server as primary and the EU one as a backup in sabnzbd? If not, I would do that first.
Second you can get a free account from xsusenet to help fill in the gaps: »www.xsusenet.com/en/ I do something along similar lines except I generally use the EU servers as primary. I find the performance hit is minimal, if any, with the EU servers nearly saturating my line most of the time. The problem with fill servers I am finding is that some posts(not very many but a few) are missing from multiple providers which means you need multiple fill servers to have a shot at filling some of these posts. The one I mentioned above, which is actually 139 days old, is on xsusenet, which I have as one of my fill servers I my add, but unfortunately some of the files are corrupt and there are no pars to repair it with. |
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 Bark join:2006-03-19 Grand Junction, CO | IM the 139 day post and I'll take a look. |
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| said by Bark:IM the 139 day post and I'll take a look. The post didn't appear to have any recovery files posted with it either so that does not help things. -- Usenet Block Accounts | Unlimited Accounts |
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 Bark join:2006-03-19 Grand Junction, CO | reply to AndrewW There is an issue that SABnzbd+ and XSusenet are not playing nicely together, I'm trying to get it resolved. |
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 | reply to AndrewW said by AndrewW:said by sandman_1:How does binsearch bypass DMCA? You still have to pull the articles from your provider in the end so if it doesn't have it, you are shit out of luck. I would like to know as well! Earlier you mentioned that Astraweb has problems filling posts in a certain age range. Why then does it not have peering arrangements with other providers to fill those gaps? They do. They are slowly filling in the gap but it is taking awhile to do for whatever reason. Also I think the only time that they actually try to fill in the gaps is when they do maintenance on Sundays.
But anyway, nowadays, you gotta have something backing up your main account because not one provider is totally 100% rock-solid. They all have their quirks. My XSUsenet account is filling that function just fine. Although it doesn't hurt getting a block account with say Blocknews or somebody.
said by Bark:There is an issue that SABnzbd+ and XSusenet are not playing nicely together, I'm trying to get it resolved. My friend uses SABNZBd and can't connect to their server either. I use Newsbin and have no problems. |
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 AndrewW join:2009-03-07 Toronto, ON kudos:1 | reply to Bark said by Bark:There is an issue that SABnzbd+ and XSusenet are not playing nicely together, I'm trying to get it resolved. How exactly does this bad behaviour manifest itself? Although its slow and sometimes I notice a fail to connect, it seems to work with my SABnzbd for the most part. |
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 AndrewW join:2009-03-07 Toronto, ON kudos:1 | reply to swintec said by swintec:said by Bark:IM the 139 day post and I'll take a look. The post didn't appear to have any recovery files posted with it either so that does not help things. Success at last!!! None of the paid servers I tried could fill this 139 day old post. It took the combined might of 2 freebee servers, just4today and xsusenet to successfully snag this bad boy. After failing to extract after a second download I once again replaced the corrupted files from a more recent post I found using Binsearch and Eureka, and this time a successful extraction! I was under the impression that just4today's retention was 10 days. Apparently it's a lot better. The speed of the two together was not too bad at about 555KB/sec which is quite a bit faster then when I tested just4today a couple of years ago. |
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 Bark join:2006-03-19 Grand Junction, CO | reply to AndrewW said by AndrewW:...the post I 'm trying to get is still most likely missing from Astraweb given the fact that it was not there a few weeks ago when I tried to download it from them. This part I don't understand because the post that you IM'd is in fine shape on Astraweb. I don't think you want to habitually download 14 GB posts from J4T+XSU and wait... wait... wait for it to finish, or do you? |
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 AndrewW join:2009-03-07 Toronto, ON kudos:1 | No, I definitely do not want to wait. I like it very much when a Usenet provider can saturate my line which means over 3MB/s and not the 555KB/s the Just4today/xsusenet setup gives you. As I said before it didn't work for me previously on Astraweb but this may be related to my weird stalling issue with Astraweb. Besides, Astraweb is there any provider that offers over 1200 day retention and ignores DMCA notices? |
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| said by AndrewW:and ignores DMCA notices? No provider ignores them and Astra does get them, at least from forum chatter I have seen in the gaming area. Some may not GET them that much or at all, but none would ignore them. -- Usenet Block Accounts | Unlimited Accounts |
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