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drew Radiant Premium Member join:2002-07-10 Port Orchard, WA 1 recommendation	drew to sk1939 Premium Member 2012-Mar-14 1:18 pm to sk1939 Re: AOL Email and other things to prevent you from being hired I don't want to derail the thread too much... I'm probably (much) younger than you. I don't buy into the Dad's aren't responsible for the babies thing. My wife and I are equal partners in raising our children. Ultimately, I will have to account for my wife and my children, but we're partners on handling them. I'm hugely pro-family and see no reason that a "man" should not be able to take extended periods of time off to bring a new child into his home. Women are able to, but men are not? Strange. In reality, we're white collar workers here and it's not as big of a deal for you and me. But for the guy down the street changing the oil in my neighbor's car, he has no such thing. He's hoping his wife gives birth on a Friday night so that he has the weekend off to spend with her and the new baby before he has to go back to work on Monday.
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DarkLogix Texan and Proud Premium Member join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX 1 recommendation	DarkLogix Premium Member 2012-Mar-14 2:35 pm I agree a father should have more time with the new born and the recovering wife. I'd want the father to be there to run to the store and any other thing to better allow the wife to rest and care for the new born and not try going to the store whith the new born. the first (however long it takes to recover) the father should be there to help and support them.
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sk1939 Premium Member join:2010-10-23 Frederick, MD ARRIS SB8200 Ubiquiti UDM-Pro Juniper SRX320	sk1939 to drew Premium Member 2012-Mar-14 1:46 pm to drew I believe that Dads are responsible for children, and should be equal in raising them, but I fail to see what they can do for infants/newborns, that's really the mothers responsibility and domain. I fail to see the reason behind a man having to take extended time off because of a new born. A man did not give birth, does not have to nurse, care, or deal with the medical issues that stem from having recently given birth. True, 1st world issues so to speak. Blue collar workers have a vastly different perspective, but many of them I'm sure would agree in that maternity leave is really for women.
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drew Radiant Premium Member join:2002-07-10 Port Orchard, WA 1 recommendation	drew Premium Member 2012-Mar-14 1:48 pm I think the discussion is wandering a bit too much here. I'll just say that I highly, highly disagree with you and leave it at that. But a bit of snark first quote: maternity leave is really for women. It sure is. Paternity leave... that's another matter.
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Immer Gentleman Premium Member join:2010-01-07 Evans, GA 2 recommendations	Immer to sk1939 Premium Member 2012-Mar-14 3:16 pm to sk1939 said by sk1939: but I fail to see what they can do for infants/newborns, that's really the mothers responsibility and domain...or deal with the medical issues that stem from having recently given birth. I have no idea where this tangent started; however, I shall plead the case within your limited vision. Mom could really use the help. A woman with a third degree tear, or an overly ambitious episiotomy has limited range of motion for several days. Not everyone can have extended family come and stay with mom. Finally... mom needs sleep. It is good for the infant to be held by dad... but that is outside your vision, so suffice it to say that mom can sleep better if dad is holding the infant from time to time. My firm gave me 10days paternity leave... to be taken in whatever increments I deemed necessary for the rest of the fiscal year. It was wonderful. 4 days spent to help the wife once extended family left... 4 days spent when the older son was ill (complicating things for infant and recovering mommy), and 2 more days for getting the newborn registered for insurance and getting a passport.
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sk1939 Premium Member join:2010-10-23 Frederick, MD ARRIS SB8200 Ubiquiti UDM-Pro Juniper SRX320	sk1939 Premium Member 2012-Mar-14 4:42 pm Started with this: »Re: AOL Email and other things to prevent you from being hired I do admit to my vision being limited, since I can't empathize with any of the aforementioned scenarios, and knowing next to nothing about kids (other than having been one). I can see where it would be beneficial, but at the same time isn't that what vacation and sick days are for? For the passport, couldn't you have just done that AFTER work?
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nonymous (banned) join:2003-09-08 Glendale, AZ	nonymous (banned) to sk1939 Member 2012-Mar-14 7:53 pm to sk1939 said by sk1939: I believe that Dads are responsible for children, and should be equal in raising them, but I fail to see what they can do for infants/newborns, that's really the mothers responsibility and domain. I fail to see the reason behind a man having to take extended time off because of a new born. A man did not give birth, does not have to nurse, care, or deal with the medical issues that stem from having recently given birth. True, 1st world issues so to speak. Blue collar workers have a vastly different perspective, but many of them I'm sure would agree in that maternity leave is really for women. I took a week off. Helped my wife recover from c section. Got to know my newborn son. It was fun and work. Not just sitting around watching my wife do everything. (She would have killed me if I did.) My wife went back to work part time later. I did try to minimize my overtime. Sure I could have just work my ass off and let my wife stay home. Still there is more of a safety net with two jobs even if one is part time. Plus she liked getting out to work when I was home or a babysitter. Since we both work if my son gets sick all of a sudden and can not go to school and our backups fail at last minute depending on what we have at work that day drives who stays home. Plus when newborn sure my wife nursed and not me. Yet diaper changes, cuddling, washing up etc. can be done by either adult. Once the nursing stage is over then most stuff is interchangeable.
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Bink63 Namedrop THIS Premium Member join:2002-10-06 Everywhere	Bink63 to sk1939 Premium Member 2012-Mar-14 10:01 pm to sk1939 said by sk1939: Started with this: »Re: AOL Email and other things to prevent you from being hired I do admit to my vision being limited, since I can't empathize with any of the aforementioned scenarios, and knowing next to nothing about kids (other than having been one). I can see where it would be beneficial, but at the same time isn't that what vacation and sick days are for? For the passport, couldn't you have just done that AFTER work? Couldn't you have just quoted my post?
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sk1939 Premium Member join:2010-10-23 Frederick, MD ARRIS SB8200 Ubiquiti UDM-Pro Juniper SRX320	sk1939 Premium Member 2012-Mar-14 10:17 pm said by Bink63: Couldn't you have just quoted my post? Easier to provide the whole conversation thread for perspective.
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Immer Gentleman Premium Member join:2010-01-07 Evans, GA	Immer to sk1939 Premium Member 2012-Mar-15 9:56 am to sk1939 said by sk1939: For the passport, couldn't you have just done that AFTER work? No. Passport office hours fall in the middle of my work day. Sick days and Vacation days (at my firm they all fall under PTO) are for routine needs. Having kids is anything but routine. Most fathers burn through all of their vacation and sick time for a baby... then we have to come to work when we are sick... because the rest of the year is toast.
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Exodus Your Daddy Premium Member join:2001-11-26 Earth	Exodus to sk1939 Premium Member 2012-Mar-15 1:08 pm to sk1939 Do you frequently advise on things that you have no experience with?
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sk1939 Premium Member join:2010-10-23 Frederick, MD	sk1939 Premium Member 2012-Mar-15 1:30 pm Not usually; I believe that as a supervisor it's good to gain perspective though.
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Exodus Your Daddy Premium Member join:2001-11-26 Earth	Exodus Premium Member 2012-Mar-15 1:31 pm You want perspective? Get someone knocked up.
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DarkLogix Texan and Proud Premium Member join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX	DarkLogix Premium Member 2012-Mar-15 8:05 pm Wait what? you're telling him to go knock someone up just to gain perspective on what it is to be a parent?
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sk1939 Premium Member join:2010-10-23 Frederick, MD	sk1939 to Exodus Premium Member 2012-Mar-15 1:46 pm to Exodus Not likely to happen anytime soon.
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Exodus Your Daddy Premium Member join:2001-11-26 Earth	Exodus to DarkLogix Premium Member 2012-Mar-15 8:11 pm to DarkLogix At least one person.
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