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Pd0xxx_

@comcast.net

[DTA] Disney Jr.?

Seems Disney Jr. is getting its own channel starting March 23rd. Any comcast employees know details? We have digital preferred (I think) downstairs with the digital box. In our bedoom, we have a DTA adapter hooked up and get a decreased number of channels there. We currently get the normal Disney channel via the DTA. Will we get the new Disney JR. channel there as well? Or just via the living room digital box? Thanks!


telcodad
Premium
join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:15
The Disney Junior channel (»www.disneyjuniorthechannel.com/) will be replacing SOAPnet on Comcast systems on March 23rd.

While SOAPnet is on the Digital Preferred tier, according to this item on the Zap2it site, it sounds like Disney Junior will be on the Basic tier: »tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/0···/115890/

"Disney Junior, a 24-hour basic cable/satellite channel expressly for kids age 2-7 and their parents/caregivers, will launch FRIDAY, MARCH 23 (12:00 midnight, ET/PT) in the U.S."

andyross
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-04
Schaumburg, IL
In cable terms, basic cable is what Comcast now calls Digital Starter (or Expanded Basic.) What some people think of basic (locals/public access) is Limited Basic.

In most areas, DTA's get the Starter tier if you subscribe to Starter or higher, so hopefully it will be available on them. Technically, Comcast may also have to alter the encryption to the lower level used by DTA's.


telcodad
Premium
join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:15
said by andyross:

In most areas, DTA's get the Starter tier if you subscribe to Starter or higher, so hopefully it will be available on them. Technically, Comcast may also have to alter the encryption to the lower level used by DTA's.

Yes, the reverse case is what's happening with the TCM and truTV channels in many areas this year - they have been moved to the Preferred Digital tier and customers have found they are now missing on their DTAs: »[DTA] TCM Moved from Dig. Starter to Dig. Premium

So far, these channels are still working on my DTAs. I read somewhere that these channels were always on the Preferred Digital tier in original Comcast systems, but were grandfathered on the Starter/Expanded Basic tier for systems that had been taken over by Comcast.

The cable system in my area was originally operated by Storer Communications (»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storer_Communications), so that's why we probably can still watch TCM on our DTAs. Don't know how much longer this will last though.

andyross
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-04
Schaumburg, IL
I'm in an area that has been Comcast for a long time (was AT&T Broadband, TCI before that, Cablenet before that.)

TCM and truTV (formerly Court TV) were always part of expanded basic and are still part of Starter here. In fact, TCM is still available as analog!

Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
TCM is limited basic only in some araes.

Some areas in Chicago land have speed in expanded / starter others in sports pack. (other comcast systems out side of the Chicago area have speed in stater)

BUT COMCARP F* us over when they where rolling the DTA by moveing CLTV (CSN +) to starter (Back then DTA did not get starter) so you had to pay $7+ per tv to get CSN +.

Why did not move CSN + to it's own channel or use on the help channels you know the ones with the same videos that CSN + HD (info HD) shows when off air?

Now they use 101 for CSN + SD and starter is on the DTA.

useing CLTV for RSN over flows is a old analog cable leftover that should of ended with the analog trun off / dta roll out.

But we also had SCIFI in Preferred for a long time (other systems still had in analog)

ajwees41
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Omaha, NE
reply to telcodad
don't assume it will Comcast and Disney need to have an agreement just like any channel


mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
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comcast and disney reached a 7 year or 10 year agreement in january.

»www.comcast.com/About/PressRelea···ect=true


mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
reply to Pd0xxx_
someone goofed on the february bill:

IMPORTANT INFORMATION: On April 23, 2012, Disney Junior
will replace SOAPnet on Digital Preferred channel 120.

I think they meant March 23rd.

Mgsports

join:2004-11-11
Olathe, KS
reply to Pd0xxx_
Not all cable systems will add it on that date. Hopefully HD launches on that Date to on systems that add it on that day with other Channels and moves.


telcodad
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join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
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Yes, as the TVGuide.com article (»www.tvguide.com/News/Disney-Juni···380.aspx) on the Disney Junior channel debut states at the end:

"Some viewers will still receive SoapNet after March 22, the company said. "SoapNet will continue to have wide distribution for some time with many distributors choosing to carry both networks until such date as SoapNet fully sunsets," Disney says."

Russ6

join:2011-03-17
Houston, TX
kudos:1
In Houston, Disney Junior will be available on 4/17/12 on a new channel, 344. Soapnet is on 329 and is not mentioned in the announcement.


rrr

@comcast.net
i checked the guide listings for soapnet on 3/24 and soapnet programming is still there whys that


mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
I don't think all comcast systems are changing over on the 23rd. Check your bill from february to see the announcement.

Russ6

join:2011-03-17
Houston, TX
kudos:1
reply to rrr
said by rrr :

i checked the guide listings for soapnet on 3/24 and soapnet programming is still there whys that

Today is 3/19 and the changes are scheduled for 3/23 or later. Also, as others have posted not all systems are making the same changes (some systems are keeping Soapnet until the network goes away) and the date may be different for getting Disney Jr in some systems.
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Dan A

join:2008-01-03
Kendall Park, NJ
I checked my bill for Comcast of Central New Jersey the date is April 3. That may be when the new Comcast ABC/Disney contract takes effect meaing I can finaly use the Watch ESPN app on my Iphone around the same time.

"News from Comcast
IMPORTANT INFORMATION: On April 3, 2012, Disney Junior will replace SOAPnet on Digital Preferred channel 120."

Russ6

join:2011-03-17
Houston, TX
kudos:1
said by Dan A:

I checked my bill for Comcast of Central New Jersey the date is April 3. That may be when the new Comcast ABC/Disney contract takes effect meaing I can finaly use the Watch ESPN app on my Iphone around the same time.

"News from Comcast
IMPORTANT INFORMATION: On April 3, 2012, Disney Junior will replace SOAPnet on Digital Preferred channel 120."

I don't think getting the ESPN app is connected with the date April 3, 2012. That date is when your Comcast system will replace SOAPnet with Disney Junior.
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mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
reply to Dan A
it already took effect. Don't know what the holdup with the watchespn stuff is but you can watch espn content on demand now.


telcodad
Premium
join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:15
reply to andyross
From a Comcast employee post today in the Comcast Help and Support - Channels and Programming Forum (»forums.comcast.com/t5/Channels-a···nel_Prog ):

"Disney Junior will be available in our Digital Preferred package."

So, the DTAs will not be able to display it.


telcodad
Premium
join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:15
reply to telcodad
said by telcodad:

Yes, the reverse case is what's happening with the TCM and truTV channels in many areas this year - they have been moved to the Preferred Digital tier and customers have found they are now missing on their DTAs: »[DTA] TCM Moved from Dig. Starter to Dig. Premium

So far, these channels are still working on my DTAs. I read somewhere that these channels were always on the Preferred Digital tier in original Comcast systems, but were grandfathered on the Starter/Expanded Basic tier for systems that had been taken over by Comcast.

The cable system in my area was originally operated by Storer Communications (»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storer_Communications), so that's why we probably can still watch TCM on our DTAs. Don't know how much longer this will last though.

Looks like there may be another reason that I still can watch TCM with my DTAs (there is FiOS in my area):

FCC: Cable operators charge 31% less for expanded basic channels in competitive markets
FierceCable - March 20, 2012
»www.fiercecable.com/story/fcc-ca···12-03-20

"The FCC concludes that the significant decrease in price per channel that cable operators charge in markets where they face competition from cable overbuilders shows that "operators in effective competition communities carry more channels on expanded basic than operators in noncompetitive communities."

Comcast and other pay TV distributors have moved niche networks such as Turner Classic Movies and some regional sports channels from expanded basic to more expensive programming tiers. The FCC data shows that operators are less likely to kick expanded basic channels onto more expensive tiers in highly competitive markets, where they are more apt to market a large package of expanded basic channels to customers.

For the year ending Dec. 31, 2010, cable operators in markets that faced competition from both satellite rivals DirecTV and Dish Network, in addition to at least one competing cable provider such as Verizon, offered 129 expanded basic channels to subscribers. In non-competitive markets, cable operators carried 112 expanded basic channels, according to the FCC report."


Mountlaurel

@comcast.net
I would like to see "Boomerang Channel" added to my area

andyross
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-04
Schaumburg, IL
reply to Pd0xxx_
Here in the Chicago area, Disney Jr is already available as a new channel 125. It's currently just in a loop about what will be airing until 11pm CT, when regular programming starts. Soapnet is still on 109.

Diagnostics show it has 'ENC' for encryption, so it's full encryption that will require a cable box. Pretty much means it will be Preferred Tier or higher. DTA compatible channels are either unencrypted (blank) or 'UNE' in the cable box diagnostics.


mountlaurel

@comcast.net
Still not see Disney Jr on channel 120 here on Garden State, NJ system.


telcodad
Premium
join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:15
We're not getting it yet in Monmouth County either.

Here is what is shown on the Disney Junior Channel website (»www.disneyjuniorthechannel.com/) when I put in my zip code and select "Comcast":

"Great news!
Comcast will offer Disney Junior, the channel in your area.

Starting March 23 in select Comcast markets, your family will be able to tune in to Disney Junior, the channel. The channel will be available to all Comcast customers by April 26, 2012. In the meantime, join our Facebook page, or click here (»disney.go.com/disneyjunior/disne···or-on-tv) to find out more about Disney Junior on TV - our shows and schedule."

I guess our markets aren't "select" enough.


jblues

join:2001-04-28
Allen Park, MI
reply to Pd0xxx_
We have it here on a NEW channel number (151) - SD only. It says on the channel there is an HD version, but we don't have it.

FYI - SoapNet is still there on Channel 120 too.


mountlaurel

@comcast.net
Disney Jr now available on channel 120 on Garden State,NJ system.


telcodad
Premium
join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:15
Just checked, same here in Monmouth County, NJ. It's also showing on channel 120, replacing SOAPnet.

Confirmed that I can not get it on my DTAs, so it must be on the Preferred Tier here.


Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:4
reply to mountlaurel
R.I.P. SOAPnet


mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
still get soapnet here