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Telco

join:2008-12-19
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Re: Gov't FTTH

The Aussies have got it right on this front. Much like interstates, their Federal government is building a wholesale FTTH network, which any carrier can use to resell a service.

This is the ONLY way we will ever bring competition to America. With FIOS and Uverse roll-outs effectively over, the vast majority of Americans are stuck at the whims of monopolies.

On a side note, it's also just laughable to read about the 100MB/s services offered in France and then see how little they pay for it. Reaganites truly screwed us up and put us years behind the rest of the world.

Republicans appoint their cronies into key positions in the FCC, FDA, USDA etc and then hamper their ability to do anything. But hey, at least we waste more on defense than the next 17 nations combined. What an achievement, considering it also has the lowest ROI of any tax dollar spent.

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join:2008-02-17
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said by Telco See ProfileReaganites truly screwed us up and put us years behind the rest of the world.

Republicans appoint their cronies into key positions in the FCC, FDA, USDA etc and then hamper their ability to do anything. But hey, at least we waste more on defense than the next 17 nations combined. What an achievement, considering it also has the lowest ROhI of any tax dollar spent.

It must be different on your planet. On my planet Mr. Hope and Change runs the party that controls our FCC.

In my reality Reagan was president before the internet or FCC regulation of it.

25139889

join:2011-10-25
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reply to Telco
FiOS was over the minute it started being built. The uptake on it was over rated and anyone could have told you that they would have NEVER gotten the amount of customers that were projected anytime soon.

The same will happen with any other network. You going to force a customer to switch? I don't think so.

And the Aussies also owned that phone network some time. You try doing that in the US and see how fast the FCC and alike are not in court.

The USDA and the FDA do their jobs. That they were created for - the FCC does NOT and tries to do what ever they want until they're sued.

Telco

join:2008-12-19
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Well said, as RWers do indeed live on their own planet. The Big Government world has handed it to America yet your dimwitted ilk still spew out the same baseless nonsense and failed minimum government creed from Reagan.

Obama has been in office for 3 years, he cannot repair all of the damage done by RWers and certainly not overnight. This is just another thing on the list that needs to be repaired.

Telco

join:2008-12-19

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I thought you said we had lots of choice.

Therefore, we need a new agency that handles all forms of communication. One guess which party will totally oppose this? Hint: the idiot speaker is from your state.

By the way, the Aussies are building a brand new, from the ground on up, wholesale FTTH network.

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said by Telco:

Well said, as RWers do indeed live on their own planet. The Big Government world has handed it to America yet your dimwitted ilk still spew out the same baseless nonsense and failed minimum government creed from Reagan.

Obama has been in office for 3 years, he cannot repair all of the damage done by RWers and certainly not overnight. This is just another thing on the list that needs to be repaired.

Telco,
The Democrats have had total control over government during the first part of the Obama administration. If something is seriously wrong at the FCC, it is pointless to blame Republicans. Blame the only party that has had the power to change things, in case you can't figure it out, that would be the Democrats. Personally I don't advise blaming either party, the issues are very complex and transcend political beliefs.

Democrats have had total control of both houses and the executive twice in the recent past (LBJ and Obama), before that you'd need to go to FDR. The last time Republicans had similar control, was when they were engaged in the military (and incidentally the political) defeat of Democrats during and shortly after the Civil War.

Karl wrote loving prose as news about Obama and the Hope and Change he promised early on. It turns out, 3 years later, things haven't improved much, if anything they have regressed. The most open administration in history (the current Obama administration) is the most closed. The end of revolving doors between regulators and the regulated per candidate Obama is if anything worse than ever under President Obama. Obama has hired many RIAA attorney's to help guide our DOJ.

It makes no sense to blast either party imo. Both have great warts. However, to blame Republicans for the current FCC regulatory fiasco, is ludicrous.

The electric and telephone utilities were given status as "natural monopolies" long ago and were exempt from many federal anti-trust rules. Initially the electrical and phone companies controlled the telephone poles, later cable came along. Each monopoly was in a separate business that needed to use the same easements (rights of way). All relied on wire, and telephone poles or underground conduit.

Within the past few decades as internet has proliferated, two of the utilities have crossed over into each others monopoly. Creating an accidental, and unintentional duopoly for most customers in the U.S.

The duopoly is enforced by federal, state and local law, and by regulation at the same levels. The only party that has had the power to unilaterally change it was the Democrats during the early part of Obama's first term.

To blast Republicans (outside the Blue Room) as you do, doesn't really help imo.
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Telco

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They never had a supermajority, so without it nothing can move forward. Certainly not when you have an opposing party whose underlying mantra is do nothing and will vote against anything and everything.

They also have the recession handed to them to focus on; therefore, though important, issues such as broadband have to come second.

My argument is not (R) vs (D) oriented. I am merely stating where both parties stand on the issues and how they have voted in the past on it. How a senator or rep votes on an issue is there for all to see, it's not based on opinions or personal feelings.

The fact that we rank so poorly and that the private sector has left us ranked about 20th for broadband in the world means nothing.

The GOP creed is government is bad and the private sector (like MCI) is always best, therefore, they could not care less about facts or where we rank.

To some Ohioan like Boehner, 3mb/s DSL is more than enough. Too bad I don't even have access to that. It's Comcast or nothing for me.

It's amazing how after 30 years of failed Reaganomics, the GOP still beats the same drum and refuses to take responsibility for the consequences of zero government and minimal investment in America.

Let's put it another way, it's no coincidence that the majority of state senators that voted in favor of legislation preventing localities and counties from installing their own FTTH network are republican.

Republicans have not proposed a new idea in 30 years. It's always the same old tired cliche of less government, lower taxes, drill for oil, and no regulation. Moreover, it's a party that ignores the demographics of its own voting base, while claiming to be the experts on technology; even when almost no technological innovation comes out of Red States.

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said by Telco:

They never had a supermajority,

60 votes in the Senate and a majority of control in the House is a supermajority. With that you can pass ANYTHING. Before complaining about politicians, learn a bit about the system.
said by Telco:

My argument is not (R) vs (D) oriented.

Yes it is, you mindlessly blame Republicans while both parties have issues. It's unfortunate to see stuff like this outside the Blue Room.
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reply to Telco
said by Telco:

Well said, as RWers do indeed live on their own planet. The Big Government world has handed it to America yet your dimwitted ilk still spew out the same baseless nonsense and failed minimum government creed from Reagan.

Obama has been in office for 3 years, he cannot repair all of the damage done by RWers and certainly not overnight. This is just another thing on the list that needs to be repaired.

Dude. The FCC Chief,, Julius Genachowski, was appointed directly by Obama and holds the majority vote. It's his fault the FCC has done nothing to address competition. Obama is almost as bad as his predecessor. Look at how he's utterly failed to stand up or regulate the big banks, or his extension of the Bush tax cuts, or wimping out of real healthcare change.

Telco

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Last time any party had the 60 minimum required was in 1977. Explaining why nothing is ever accomplished in this country.

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said by Telco:

Last time any party had the 60 minimum required was in 1977. Explaining why nothing is ever accomplished in this country.

You are in error. When Arlen Specter switched parties and became a Democrat and Al Franken won, Democrats held 60 seats in U.S. Senate.

Al Franken, the 60th Democrat in the U.S. Senate was sworn in on July 7, 2009.

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