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FFH
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join:2002-03-03
Tavistock NJ
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Promise of no more FIOS is merely convenient

Verizon's claim of no more FIOS expansion is merely one of convenience to get the Senate committee to give a go ahead to their cable deal. No promise made now is a guarantee that Verizon won't change their mind in the future with a new CEO or changed economic conditions. So, I wouldn't sign on to the idea that FIOS is now dead forever more.



S_engineer
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join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL

said by FFH:

So, I wouldn't sign on to the idea that FIOS is now dead forever more.

It doesn't matter, if you've got the general counsel for a top tier company telling a Congressional committee that part of the decision making process involves how much the likes of Moffet with punish them....then theres multiple problems. Among them are : Why didn't anyone in congress leap at that statement?....do fortune 500 companies now have to guage how Wall Street feels everytime they want to expand?....or, how do we de-couple a companies desired direction from traders that want to milk every last penny out of antiquated technologies?
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"Thanks for the dance... and cut yourself a slice'a throat! "
- Curly (HOI POLLOI, 1935)


TrainBuff
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Buffalo, NY
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reply to FFH

»www.buffalonews.com/business/art···6755.ece

This was in the morning paper.


openbox9
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Germany
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reply to S_engineer

said by S_engineer:

do fortune 500 companies now have to guage how Wall Street feels everytime they want to expand?

Businesses have always needed to pander to investors. After all, they attract investors by earning them returns on their investments.

Kearnstd
Space Elf
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And investors no longer want to wait out the long haul, they live purely by the quarter. if a company does not profit highly in a quarter they see it as a forever loss.
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[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports


openbox9
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Germany
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That is not true in an absolute sense. Many unprofitable growth companies have investors in for the "long haul" (what does that mean anyway?).



S_engineer
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Chicago, IL

1 recommendation

the average stock is held for 22 seconds...this is thanks to algorithmic trading...the same type that caused the flash crash. It's not about the company anymore...its all speculation....and that's what need to be addressed
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"Thanks for the dance... and cut yourself a slice'a throat! "
- Curly (HOI POLLOI, 1935)


openbox9
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Germany
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For a portion of the market, that is correct. For a bigger section of investors, that is not true at all. I don't have a problem with algorithmic trading per se, after all, it does add liquidity to the market. When I start having an issue is when algorithmic (or any other active trading scheme) begins to manipulate the market unfairly in favor of a minority versus the broader market, e.g. the "flash crash".

So back to your original question, what exactly is the issue with companies needing to please their investors?



tschmidt
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reply to S_engineer

said by S_engineer:

the average stock is held for 22 seconds...this is thanks to algorithmic trading...

Verizon policies aside I agree that short term stock market focus makes it very difficult for corporate management to make long term strategic decisions.

I like the idea of a stock transaction tax. It has minimal impact on long term holdings but will discourage short term trading. Equity purchases should be determined because you are comfortable with the long term prospect of the the company not what its stock will do in the next minute, hour or even the next quarter. Any company can be profitable for a quarter.

/tom