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signmeuptoo
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Re: [Rant] Walmart phamacy

I am moving and will be within distance where walking will be possible to a Walgreens. I had 2 medicines transferred to Rite Aide in order to deal with this problem, but I am moving too far away to continue to use them.

Life is much more difficult when you don't have a car or truck, though it is cheaper!

I kept Walmart partly because I thought they were cheaper for some reason and because I could do other things while there. Now I realize the hassle just isn't worth it.

Only 2 occasions with 2 meds was it a shortage issue, and both times they also screwed up on my order as well, and the shortage was ONLY at Walmart because Rite Aide had the meds and said they had no problem getting them.

And the attitude!

Let's not make this what it isn't. It's very poor service. And yes, I could sit on a bench, but I was getting rides there and the rides are invariably in a major hurry and waiting 10 or 15 minutes as it is before the line reaches me, well... And on top of that, they close for an hour every day!

Maybe I should write a letter to the newspaper, I might actually do that.

OTOH, other than this forum, I am kind of a low profile person, and I don't want to attract boat loads of attention from the news, I am camera shy for one thing. I've had reporters try to interview me before, and I am very uncomfortable with it. And local news spends most of their time on fear fear fear.
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said by Fronkman:

said by John2Jonnie:

I take many meds daily, and with the exception of restricted drugs (Schedule/class 1) ...

what schedule I drugs do you take? they aren't legal for use in the united states.

said by thegeek:

said by John2Jonnie:


I take many meds daily, and with the exception of restricted drugs (Schedule/class 1) I purchase all the others from a distributor in India.

please tell me which schedule 1 drugs you are taking as schedule 1 drugs are all considered to have no medicinal


My apologies - it appears I made a bit of a mistake in drug classifications.

Medications I still get locally include Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, Fentanyl - the three strongest. And also Fioricet and Tramadol.



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reply to signmeuptoo
You are bashing them because you cant take 3 mins to verify your prescriptions are correct? I'm sorry but as much as I hate walmart I fail to see the logic here.
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Re: [Rant] Walmart phamacy

Man oh man you get all the good stuff

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All the chain store pharmacies can be pretty bad these days.

It's harder and harder to find a locally owned independent pharmacy, but if they are around, they can be great. And independent pharmacies often are competitive on price, too.

Some states have passed laws ensuring that the healthplans cannot exclude the independents.

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But look (NOT directing this against you personally!), when people started using places like Home Depot and Lowes, that put local hardware stores out of business.

And when people started using chain store pharmacies (especially the superchains like Walmart) that put locally owned pharmacies out of business. And mail order pharmacies have killed local independents too (yes, some customers must use mail order, unfortunately).

So when there is bad service, it shouldn't be a surprise.



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Re: [Rant] Walmart phamacy

said by Bruschi:

You are bashing them because you cant take 3 mins to verify your prescriptions are correct? I'm sorry but as much as I hate walmart I fail to see the logic here.

Please. My complaints go way beyond that, you misrepresent the entire thing. Whether or not I check the scripts is academic, they screwed up EVERY order and SEVERAL meds each order, EVERY month for half a year. They act like I am a criminal. They rush you. They run out of meds when other pharmacies don't. They hang up on you when you call (I've never ever every been unpleasant with them, yet when they have confusion over anything, they just hang up). And, of course, if I wasn't totally bushed and dazed and confused myself right now, I am sure I'd be able to state other objections. Sir, get real, I love how people come and troll.
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said by dvd536:

Man oh man you get all the good stuff


Wish I didn't need them


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reply to signmeuptoo
Again as I said in my original post, if these meds are so important to your well being why the hell are you waiting until you get home to check them?
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I agree with your complaints, but I am not surprised by them.

(Again, this next part is NOT about you personally! )

WalMart is about volume and about pushing the prices so low that the vendors' balls are in a vise.

Now, we all like low prices, but when it means transferring jobs to China, or when it means squeezing American companies so hard that they have to lay off [their] workers, it's not a good thing.

WalMart is so tightfisted that when they make the vendors come to their Arkansas HQ to pay homage and beg to have their products carried by WalMart, they are made to sit on ratty lawn chairs! WalMart won't even provide regular chairs for the visiting businesspeople to sit on! Such is Walmart's disdain and contempt for their fellow businessmen.

WalMart is OK for groceries, socks, and underwear, but I wouldn't buy pharmaceuticals there unless I was limited by my healthplan or by transportation.

This video (Big Box-Mart from the Jib-Jab team) explains it all:
»www.jibjab.com/originals/big_box_mart


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Hey, don't go insulting my home state! You obviously are not from the Deep South. It is an "honor" to be offered lawn chairs probably on the patio. I hope you never visit the Big Island as probably our customs will "insult" you also. (I remember the kindness of Sam Walton when I was a small child many years ago and my father paid him a visit when we were in northern Arkansas).

Wal-Mart does not "make" any vendor come to Bentonville to pay "homage" or "beg" for their products to be carried by Wal-Mart. Vendors are free to go to any store they wish. They can choose Target instead of Wal-Mart or CVS, etc. Yes, Wal-Mart is tight fisted but no vendor is forced to do business with them.

How can you possibly claim Wal-Mart is ok for groceries (the staff of life) but not medications? That makes no sense. I don't buy groceries in Wal-Mart as what they offer in our store is the usual garbage products that most Americans are addicted to and determined to eat because they are suicidal (even though they would not admit it...but making garbage your diet is suicidal). The super Wal-Mart (mine is not one) in the town where I grew up has a fine grocery with lots of fresh fruits and veggies as well as the garbage foods so I would shop the fresh fruits and veggies there.

Prescription medications, on the other hand, are the EXACT SAME medication as what you get at any pharmacy if brand name. If generic, I know with my generic drugs, ALL PHARMACIES in this town carry the SAME generic brand of that drug so it doesn't matter which pharmacy I go to. The only difference is whether or not the pharmacy I go to gives me 90 day supply for 30 day price. Many do not do this. They have to make agreements with my Medicare PPO to do this and some do including WalMart but those that don't then the same drug is about 5 times the cost at their pharmacy than it is at the pharmacies that participate with my Medicare PPO. Of course, all the prices are grossly artificially inflated by the pharmaceutical cartels and manipulation of contrived shortages so the price can be jacked up when the supply "returns", etc. (There is also the FDA's total ineptness regarding targeting manufacturers of raw ingredients and the horrific red tape and hoops they must jump through .. partly designed by the pharmeceutical cartels to try and get the compounding pharmacies shut down so patients are forced to get their drug).

I won't buy prescription medication at Target and will only pay cash in that store because of their sick spying on customers (which goes way beyond what other stores do). As for Safeway, who wants to buy medication in a grocery store? I had to get my flu shot there last fall and that was a very crappy experience. There is no privacy there. In Wal-Mart, there are private areas for consultation where you sit down and others can't hear you. Also, here Wal-Mart is the ONLY pharmacy in town that offers delivery of prescription medication. Plus the delivery is FREE OF CHARGE. That is awesome and has alleviated a worry of mine. How would I get medicine if I was too sick to drive to the store? A taxi would be awfully expensive.

I don't think Wal-Mart is perfect but the rabid folks that get into any thread about Wal-Mart make me want to puke. I think the OP has a legitimate gripe and, as I said earlier, I am sorry to hear about such poor treatment. That doesn't mean though that all Wal-Mart pharmacies are evil places to be avoided at all costs. The rabid Wal-Mart haters should just stay the hell out of these threads.
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My mom takes about that many meds too but here in texas uses the CVS pharmacy. I think she used to use walmart years and years ago though. CVS has been pretty good about filling all her scripts on time and they even do courtesy calls to remind you that they've been filled and to come pick them up. Not quite sure if ghetto-mart does that though.


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said by Mele20:

Hey, don't go insulting my home state! You obviously are not from the Deep South. It is an "honor" to be offered lawn chairs probably on the patio.

I'm not talking about the patio, I'm talking about inside their building. I specifically read that a few years ago in a major publication like Forbes or the WSJ, don't remember which.

And WalMart has amassed so much market power that any manufacturer or supplier who doesn't give in to all their demands is screwed. Yet they are screwed if they do give in as well. This is one reason so many American companies have had to shift so much production and other work overseas, and/or cut back the quality of their products.

said by Mele20:

How can you possibly claim Wal-Mart is ok for groceries (the staff of life) but not medications? That makes no sense.

You missed the whole point of the OP.

When you buy groceries, if you yourself forget to buy bananas, no big deal. But if the pharmacy forgets one of your meds, that IS a big deal.

Moreover---

If you yourself buy the wrong kind of lettuce, no big deal.

But if the pharmacist gives you the wrong dosage of a medication, or the wrong medication altogether, that IS a big deal.

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Man received the wrong prescriptions from a Wal-Mart pharmacist and subsequently died.
»www.bostonherald.com/business/ge···__death/

Teen in coma after wrong dose of medication
»www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=3765921

WalMart professionally rude to other pharmacists
»www.theangrypharmacist.com/archi···der.html

(And yes, such can happen and DOES happen anywhere, but at places like CVS and Walgreens the pharmacy is a major part of their identity and their existence for being. At WalMart it's just one little part of a huge enterprise).


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said by John2Jonnie:


I take many meds daily, and I purchase all the others from a distributor in India.

That's taking a huge and unnecessary chance with your life. Drugs from overseas do not have the quality controls or even the same ingredients or the same dosage or are adulterated within the meaning of section 501(a)(2)(B) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and/or are just counterfeits with all filler. You might think you are getting a drug that is in effect either a poison or just as worse conflicts with the other drugs you are taking. That is playing lotto with your life. Highly not recommended.

This sums it up well.

»www.pharmacychecker.com/aboutop.asp
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Many drugs in India are manufactured in FDA-approved or inspected facilities. In fact, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration inspects more drug manufacturing plants in India than any other country outside the U.S. However, the drug supply in India is not as strongly regulated as it is in the U.S. and some other economically developed countries, such as Canada and the United Kingdom. Consequently, it has a higher rate of counterfeit medication.
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I've dealt with a few pharmacies over the years a while back I go to walgreens to pick up a very common medication for acid reflux I talked to the pharmacists he told me they had not gotten there order delivered and he had called a few walgreens in the general area he was straightforward and stated many different pharmacies are running low on med's not only due to a high demand but there are some counterfeit medicines going around getting into big chain and independent shops and evening into hospitals



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It all depends on where you purchase them, or rather who. I agree, there are many in India that sell out of apartments and who knows where. My support group has members world wide and members in India have checked out the place we purchase from.

In addition there are also members of the group who can have any medication tested. The bottom line is that you have to do your homework.

As an example of price differences: My seizure medication, Trileptal has the generic Oxcarbazepine. Locally here I can purchase a thirty day supply for $435 from Rite Aid. The same thing can be purchased from Walmart for $65, and I purchase a five month plus 2 weeks supply for $97 - and that includes the $20 shipping. I have shown my medication to my Neurologist who has examined them along with what is supplied from Walmart and Rite Aid. Guess what - they are all identical.

Another is my Estrogen. Ten ampoules cost $72 here locally while the ones from India cost $14. And the two are identical, right down to the labeling which shows they were manufactured in India. The only difference I have ever seen was the box they come in. The ones from India are in a plain gray box with black writing - also Heidi writing and maximum allowed selling price. The box sold here in the US is bright white with multicolor printing - and there is also a brochure on the correct way to self inject.

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Many drugs in India are manufactured in FDA-approved or inspected facilities. In fact, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration inspects more drug manufacturing plants in India than any other country outside the U.S.

This is why many US drug companies are importing these same drugs themselves and selling them at HUGE markups.



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said by PX Eliezer:

said by Mele20:

Hey, don't go insulting my home state! You obviously are not from the Deep South. It is an "honor" to be offered lawn chairs probably on the patio.

I'm not talking about the patio, I'm talking about inside their building. I specifically read that a few years ago in a major publication like Forbes or the WSJ, don't remember which.

There was a book "The Wal-Mart Effect" published early 2006. An excerpt from the book, "The Man Who Said No to Wal-Mart", was widely republished around that time:
»www.fastcompany.com/magazine/102···per.html
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Why dont you get them by mail???
My insurance would rather I get them by mail through them as it is cheaper for them and me.
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Even walmart does home delivery:
»www.walmart.com/cp/Pharmacy-Home···/1042239
Free Home Delivery of Your Prescriptions

Walmart.com offers FREE home delivery of all prescriptions, including 90-day generic prescriptions for $10.* Save time by managing your refills or setting up auto refills online. No gimmicks, just hundreds of medications priced to help you save money.
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