 MTB join:2007-06-29 Newport Beach, CA | Can MJimLay be black listed on DSLR? I am sorry is this is not the right place or the proper way to post this information but we should have an honest DSLR community with integrity.
A DSLR member should not renege on a Dedicated Sever or any other offer.
When you have an offer and an acceptance you have a morally and legally binding contract/agreement
A Dedicated server with a fresh load and root access should not have an unknown KVM back door where the seller can view your work, private data and/or simply blow it away to load a different OS without warning. |
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 SteveI know your IP addressConsultant join:2001-03-10 Yorba Linda, CA kudos:5 | "I'll take 'Only One Side of the Story' for $100, Alex" |
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| said by Steve:"I'll take 'Only One Side of the Story' for $100, Alex" Yea, why was the other thread about this locked? I think it would be nice to get the other side of the story here. -- Usenet Block Accounts | Unlimited Accounts |
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 MTB join:2007-06-29 Newport Beach, CA | reply to MTB I think he found out that his 32bit applications did not work on his new quad core. |
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| said by MTB:I think he found out that his 32bit applications did not work on his new quad core. Well yea but stuff like that can talked out, reasonable people will understand things happen. Giving the run around is just a pain to deal with for everybody. -- Usenet Block Accounts | Unlimited Accounts |
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 MTB join:2007-06-29 Newport Beach, CA | reply to MTB MJImlay is refusing to clear up the situation and return the server or the data.
Corenetworks has been informed that they have stolen/illegally obtained data, refuse to return it and seen to think they can hold on to what is essentially stolen property without the owners permission. This is also a violation of their own TOS policy regarding IP property. |
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| reply to MTB Did you pay him for the server? Has that money been returned to you? This is all very weird. I always like to give DSLR long time members the benefit of the doubt but with no comment so far from him, it leaves me scratching my head.
If all of this really doesnt work out well, sell something small in the for sale forum which will give you access to leave feedback and then you can leave appropriate feedback for the dedicated server incident.
If you can prove any sort of damages (monetary or otherwise), and you really want to take it beyond the site, take it to small claims court in CA. -- Usenet Block Accounts | Unlimited Accounts |
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 MTB join:2007-06-29 Newport Beach, CA | reply to MTB I originally paid approx $54.00 $34.95 for setup and $19.95 monthly fee. I would have to look to see if I ate a transaction fee or 2.
He asked me a few times how the server was working. I am not sure if this was because he was curious as to if somebody else got the server running, weather I was just a place holder while he tried to figure out his new server.
I did not hear back from him so I started IMing him because the next payment was due and I also felt that it was time to get the server completely transferred into my name. I also ws asking him about running a vm on that machine since seems to have done tht before.
After I realized that I could no longer access the machine and started contacting corenetworks to figure out the account status I was sent a paypal refund from what appeared to be his sister or wife's account.
Small claims will not work since it is out of the CA juristiction and small claims typically does not award you damages for your own work only work that you have paid for. I would have to file a civil claim in CA, FL or MI perhaps
He did violate my civil rights by using a KVM backdoor to access my personal data which included my php code, work related letters, resume, email backup, financial information, bank and other protected information.
I never knew that anybody had access via KVM. I thought it was an option to be installed. I can also say that in my IM's he side stepped my KVM questions. I did not think it wa a big deal since I was ok with installing debian servers from a basic terminal. |
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 bdnhsv join:2012-01-20 Huntsville, AL | So you got your entire $54 dollars back, correct? As for the data - who knows if he pilfered it. Was the cure for cancer or something? |
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 MTB join:2007-06-29 Newport Beach, CA | reply to MTB Yes I did get money back but also lost lots of time for a person that does not honor an offer and acceptance which is the oldest contract in the land.
He also claims to not know how to read linux/debian data but a quick internet search shows that he does use *ux machines.
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I do not know what is going on here but »imlay,net and one of my old ip addresses »64.85.166.46 point to what looks like a Microsoft page?? |
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| said by MTB:I do not know what is going on here but »imlay,net and one of my old ip addresses »64.85.166.46 point to what looks like a Microsoft page?? Looks like a default page for IIS... (Microsoft proprietary "web server"). |
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 bdnhsv join:2012-01-20 Huntsville, AL | reply to MTB If your data is that sensitive then host it yourself (as was suggested in another forum to you already). If you think you have a legal case then then sue the person and have your day in court. |
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 SteveI know your IP addressConsultant join:2001-03-10 Yorba Linda, CA kudos:5 | reply to MTB said by MTB: He did violate my civil rights by using a KVM backdoor to access my personal data which included my php code, work related letters, resume, email backup, financial information, bank and other protected information. If you seriously believe that a server with keyboard, video and mouse ports could sit in a data center with no possibility of somebody connecting a keyboard, video, or mouse, you really shouldn't be shopping for dedicated servers.
There is no circumstance where you can host remotely without trusting the place housing the box. None.
Edit — maybe you didn't get the services you paid for (in which case that should be made right), but any talk of KVM access and "civil rights" marks you as being so seriously out of touch with the industry that it's very easy to write you off as a nutbar and/or noob. Really, let that part go.
Steve -- Stephen J. Friedl | Unix Wizard | Security Consultant | Orange County, California USA | my web site |
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 | said by Steve:said by MTB: He did violate my civil rights by using a KVM backdoor to access my personal data which included my php code, work related letters, resume, email backup, financial information, bank and other protected information. If you seriously believe that a server with keyboard, video and mouse ports could sit in a data center with no possibility of somebody connecting a keyboard, video, or mouse, you really shouldn't be shopping for dedicated servers. There is no circumstance where you can host remotely without trusting the place housing the box. None. Edit — maybe you didn't get the services you paid for (in which case that should be made right), but any talk of KVM access and "civil rights" marks you as being so seriously out of touch with the industry that it's very easy to write you off as a nutbar and/or noob. Really, let that part go. Steve That is pretty bad practice from any hosting company though. Were the cages not locked? -- »madgenius.com - Reliable, and very affordable web hosting, VPS, and Dedicated solutions.
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 MJimLayAKA FlexBaudPremium join:2004-10-06 Pensacola, FL kudos:2 1 edit | reply to MTB I'm not going to say much as I don't want to get into a battle here. However, you did send me:
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I issued you a refund on PayPal for the full amount (even though you used the server for nearly a month) and then I simply reformatted the server to install windows on it. I did not in anyway "steal" the data, It appears the server was running linux which I have no knowledge of so I wouldn't even know how to even pull anything off it if I wanted to. I don't see how you expect corenetworks or myself to give you any data back when the server was reformatted and you said "It can all be blown away". |
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| said by MJimLay: I don't see how you expect corenetworks or myself to give you any data back when the server was reformatted and you said "It can all be blown away". I don't know what sort of communication you had but it seems like MTB was caught by surprise by all this and lack of communication from you.
So I ask, what if someone else here took the server from you instead and DID put some important stuff on it or some business, revenue generating website? Would it have all been yanked just the same?
To me, a simple "Things fell through need the server back, please have anything you need pulled off within a day or two" seems like it would have been appreciated here. -- Usenet Block Accounts | Unlimited Accounts |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ kudos:1 | reply to MJimLay I'm not taking sides here, but posting IMs verbatim is a major faux pas here. |
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 MJimLayAKA FlexBaudPremium join:2004-10-06 Pensacola, FL kudos:2 | said by AVD:I'm not taking sides here, but posting IMs verbatim is a major faux pas here. Simply trying to point out the facts and make a point. I'm not here to argue with anyone. If I get warned by a mod, then so be it. |
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 statestress magnetPremium,Mod join:2002-02-08 Purgatory kudos:6 | Consider this your warning. |
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 MJimLayAKA FlexBaudPremium join:2004-10-06 Pensacola, FL kudos:2 | said by state:Consider this your warning. Understood. |
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