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The Network Port on the back of the Ultra TV Players

Am I able to connect my Ultra TV players to my hardwired gigabit network? I would prefer to use that over the wireless for reliability sake.
hudiat
join:2011-10-13

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They are not wireless. They communicate over coax. They use Moca networking.
jeremypetz
join:2012-04-01

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They have to use the network in order to pick up the data from a DLNA server.
hudiat
join:2011-10-13

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I didnt realize you meant for dlna. However, DLNA does work over Moca, not saying ultra uses it as I don't know which it uses. But both are possible.
sgc7
join:2011-11-02
Naperville, IL

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Connecting the MPs over Ethernet is not supported. All features are supported over MoCA.
alan92rttt
join:2012-02-27

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When I ordered UltraTV the rep told me the MP's connected to the gateway wirelessly. The OP may have been told the same thing.
jeremypetz
join:2012-04-01

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Yes. that is exactly what i was told.

Just_Dan
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The media players will only connect using MoCA over the coax in your home. They can't use Ethernet, and they aren't even capable of any sort of wireless connection themselves.
jeremypetz
join:2012-04-01

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What is the minimum safe RF signal to have at an end point for the players?

Just_Dan
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The media players use MoCA, and the signal comes from the gateway. MoCA operates around 1200mhz.

As MoCA works differently than traditional cable television wiring architectures, time must be taken to understand the differences between the two. The basic components of the home network include cable, splitters & amplifiers.

Traditional home wiring cable loss
Cable loss RG-6 (@100 feet)
1.0dBmv @30 MHz
1.5dBmv @55 MHz
5.5dBmv @750MHz

MoCA home wiring cable loss
Cable loss RG-6 (@100 feet)
7.0dBmv @ 1.2GHz

Splitter loss up to 1 GHz
Two Way - 2x 3.5dBmv
Three Way - 1x 3.5dBmv & 2x 7.0dBmv
Four Way - 4x 7.0dBmv
Eight Way - 8x 11.0dBmv

Splitter loss at 1.2 GHz
Two Way - about 6dBmv @ 1.2 GHz
Three Way - about 10dBmv @ 1.2 GHz
Four Way - about 10dBmv @ 1.2 GHz
Eight Way - about 14dBmv @ 1.2 GHz

Traditional house amplifiers don't pass MoCA frequencies well if at all in the reverse path, however, do pass the MoCA band reasonably well on the forward path even though the upper band limit indicates a pass band up to 1000MHz.

All MoCA traffic is between a media gateway and up to five media players. In general, the maximum cable distance supported between the media gateway and the media players is about 150 feet or 10dBmv of cable and the maximum splitter attenuation permitted is about 30dBmv or a total link loss of 40dBmV between the media gateway and media players.
RemyL75
join:2001-06-07
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I got the media players to connect to my home network using the ethernet on the back of the players. But it overrides the coax connection they have with the Media Gateway. Had to disconnect them from the ethernet and hit the reset button on the back of the boxes to get them to see the Gateway and work properly again.

I will say that while I had them connected to my home network, they saw my server (before I connected it directly to the Gateway) and I was able to watch video from it through the boxes. So they are able to use the ethernet ports to some degree, but they will not give you any Live TV functions or let you view your DVR recordings.
jeremypetz
join:2012-04-01

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RemyL75,

Did you see a performance improvement when you connected them via Ethernet? Did it resolve disconnection issues between the player and the gateway?
sgc7
join:2011-11-02
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If there is a disconnect between them, new wiring should fix it. When WOW! completely rewired my house (including the drop cable) it finally fixed the disconnection issues. I'm still having strange speed test and ping issues, but the account-specific issues have been resolved. There are still many universal bugs (ones I've seen on multiple UTV setups) but those are to be worked out in the future.
RemyL75
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Well it played the videos on my server flawlessly, but I had no access to Live TV or any other options that were from the Gateway. So I cannot say for sure that an ethernet connection will resolve connection issues.