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Ott_Cable

@teksavvy.com

reply to freejazz_RdJ

Re: A new low for Bell....

May be banks' ATM could be cutting in that business (if there were profits to be made).

1, 2, 3 solved already. 4 could be piggy back on the bank's traffic.

It is the #5 having a business case part isn't there and the problem of people plugging up the ATM machine to make a 10 minutes call.

freejazz_RdJ

join:2009-03-10
kudos:1

said by Ott_Cable :

May be banks' ATM could be cutting in that business (if there were profits to be made).

If you're a customer of the bank, a call will be $1.00. If you use another bank, calls will be $2.50.

peterboro
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join:2006-11-03
Peterborough, ON

reply to thestealth
They can put it up to $10.00 for all I care as my calls from payphones are all free across North America.



Ott_Cable

@teksavvy.com

reply to freejazz_RdJ
BTW I did have to call up my bank while in Hong Kong on pay phone WiFi hotspot on my netbook as I was having problem with their new online setup.

It would not be so strange for ATM customers that might want to phone in for ATM related problems or emergency or things that can't be solved (e.g. password reset) without talking to a live person. Most people have cellphone, but the % is low in Canada.



urbanriot
Premium
join:2004-10-18
Canada
kudos:3

reply to thestealth
I don't care what the costs are, as long as 911 stays free.



globalnite

@ctbctelecom.com.br

reply to thestealth
If the CRTC is going to regulate payphones (a dying business), why don't they mandate the cable companies (who are gushing with cash from cable TV, internet, home phone) to provide payphones as well?


LondonOntGuy

join:2004-05-12
London, ON
Reviews:
·Execulink Telecom

reply to thestealth

said by freejazz_RdJ:

3. Space. I believe in some cases the payphone operator is asked to pay an property owner for having the payphone there.

With Hell, it's the business owner that pays if he wants to have a payphone inside or outside his shop. In Hell's eyes, a payphone will bring a paying customer into the shop.

What a great scam they have going. The shop owner not only pays for the power to run the damn thing, they also pay Hell for the privilege of having one as well.

telco_mtl

join:2012-01-06

said by LondonOntGuy:

said by freejazz_RdJ:

3. Space. I believe in some cases the payphone operator is asked to pay an property owner for having the payphone there.

With Hell, it's the business owner that pays if he wants to have a payphone inside or outside his shop. In Hell's eyes, a payphone will bring a paying customer into the shop.

What a great scam they have going. The shop owner not only pays for the power to run the damn thing, they also pay Hell for the privilege of having one as well.

when i worked in a restaurant our agreement (in the 90s) was somthing like if the phone brought in less than 50$ a month we had to pay, and over 50$ a month we got comissions on the phone.


nitzguy
Premium
join:2002-07-11
Sudbury, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL

reply to PX Eliezer

said by PX Eliezer:

said by Vomio:

Is there anything like a CRTC reg. that stops private individuals from offering payphones.

I'm thinking something like pay VoIP units in high traffic areas like convenience stores etc..

Here in the USA, pay phones are virtually extinct except for airports and such and even in that case they are getting far less common.

Yes, we had lots of private companies (NOT the phone companies) offering public payphone service several years ago, but that market has totally dried up. No one uses pay phones!!

I just saw a comment the other day from such a guy (private pay phone operator). He was lamenting that in what used to be busy locations, his phones now averaged maybe 3 calls a day. He was leaving the business.

Made famous in the 2008 Comedy Cult Classic "The Hangover"...

Alan: Do you have a payphone bank?
Caesars Hotel Clerk: A what?
Alan: You know, a bank of payphones, I'm getting no signal, is your hotel pager friendly?
Hotel Clerk: well, there's a phone in your room.
Alan: That'll work.

...I'm paraphrasing of course I can't remember the whole sequence 100%, but you get the idea .

We just took the payphone out at work, with improved cell service to our area and the fact that we were able to get local calls for free from a phone installed in the lunch room, I don't think anyone used it.

prairiesky

join:2008-12-08
canada
kudos:2

reply to thestealth
relevant

»journalstar.com/news/state-and-r···a4f.html



milnoc

join:2001-03-05
H3B
kudos:1

reply to jfmezei

said by jfmezei:

BTW, in the montreal metro, the phones keep telling me to pickup thge receptor. Should I ? What should I do afterwards ?

Pick up the receiver, then put it down again. The phone will now display the current time.

At least that's what I see them used for these days.

I once used the phones to do my banking for free. The bank's phone number was a toll-free number.
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ThatGuy

join:2011-08-14
Wheatley, ON
Reviews:
·TELUS
·Xplornet
·WAVEDIRECT

reply to jfmezei

said by jfmezei:

Oops: forgot: payphones are also needed in rural areas without any coverage in case of emergencies.

Pay phones in rural areas??? I've lived on a farm for the majority of my life... somewhere where the phone lines CAN'T HANDLE FULL SPEED DIAL up, let alone prospect of DSL or cable! I have never, ever seen a "RURAL PAYPHONE"... the idea of it is ludicrous! Where to place it for 'convenient use'? Not to mention the burden on large corporations like Bell, Cogeco, Rogers, Shaw & Telus who focus on areas where it's easier to make money, large population centers where they get more bang for their buck for investing in infrastructure! I'd prefer they look into providing internet service in rural areas before they dream up "RURAL PAYPHONES"

While I don't like Bell charging far more than it needs... it is a pay service, the more it costs, the less it's used... with cell phones these days, who uses a pay phone anyway? If you're stranded & need help, hopefully a restaurant/gas station/convenience store will let you use their phone... let Bell price themselves out of the competition, that is if there is any competition for MONOPOLIES like the telecoms! I know there are smaller independants, but they're regularly screwed over by the big companies & government doesn't seem to care (as gov't seems to be in bed with big business).

I'll end my rant now...

jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
kudos:22

In Québec, most truly rural villages have a payphone neat the dépanneur. These must not be allowed to go in areas without reliable mobile service.


gobnaitt

join:2012-02-03

reply to thestealth
Hospital lobbies always have a bank of pay phones. I see people using them all the time.



Ott_Cable

@teksavvy.com

Hospitals don't like people using cellphones claiming that they might interfere with medical equipments.



LazMan
Premium
join:2003-03-26
canada

reply to InvalidError

said by InvalidError:

said by alienzzz:

Now, how does Telus provide POTS service in Bell territory? Do they have their own COs? Do they rent lines from (b)Hell?

They do not own COs in Quebec. Most of what Telus does in QC/ON is powered by Bell and vice-versa in Telus-land. Telus is most likely leasing Bell lines.

TELUS is the ILEC in part of Quebec (the former QuebecTel region) - and provides residential and business phone, internet and TV service... From their own CO's and remotes.

For the rest of PQ and ON, where TELUS is a CLEC - some equipment is colocated in Bell CO's, some's in TELUS POP's, data centres, and CO's...

Services are delivered via TELUS owned cable, leased facitities from other companies, or Bell last mile - depending on what works best in a given situation...


LazMan
Premium
join:2003-03-26
canada

reply to thestealth
Payphones are money losers (this thread's been hashed over several times...)

They are maintenance intensive (have to be cleaned, repaired, and serviced regularly). Coins are expensive to sort, count, and handle. Revenue sharing models with property owners typically slice any profits left over in half...

There were white label pay-phone operators in the late 90's and early 2000's - they've gone the way of the Dodo for a reason - there's no money in the service anymore...

ILEC's are mandated to provide coin service - and a buck a call wouldn't seem outragous to me as a "break-even" number on the service...


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