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Dunga Bee
Put A Little Butter On It

join:2004-07-26
USA
reply to Brom

Re: [game] Newbie F11

Here is the deal. I had a bunch of stuff going on at work and I thought I saw a vote pattern of drew backing up another player and jumped on it without really reviewing things. My mistake. What I was mostly trying to avoid was a lull like in the last game where nothing was happening for long stretches (maybe that is normal though?). I wanted to continue the banter and so forth but was careless in doing so.

With regard to drew's vote calling me out, to me (inexperience noted), it seemed like a very fast vote without a request for more info. You've voted for me, but at also asked for an explanation. His vote seemed more like this:

"Hey, look at that major mistake, let's hurry up and lynch him".

It seems that it is working as well. That is how I read his vote and thus why my vote is on him as I suspect him trying to get a rush to judgement on me.

Your vote on the other hand, seems like a follower vote and not as suspect in my mind, although that would be a good mafia play as well. Obviously I need to learn the general methods at work here because everyone has different styles.

I guess this is my style evolving too.

My mistake was just a mistake of being too careless in reading what was happening and trying to keep the discussion moving and my vote on drew was one of my own gut feel in reading what I think was his play on me.

You can keep your vote on me if you like but hopefully that explains things better.

Off topic, tough loss for the Bucs yesterday, can't score any runs. Big game tonight though!


ProtusMose
Immortal. Eternal.
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Bellevue, NE
kudos:4
The Tampa Bay Bucs play baseball now?


drew
Radiant
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6
reply to Dunga Bee
You're new and we didn't cover this topic in the last game.

Common strategy to vote someone and see how they react.

Let's just say that you've reacted ... poorly.
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For you to shine, shine your light on me


Dunga Bee
Put A Little Butter On It

join:2004-07-26
USA
reply to ProtusMose
said by ProtusMose:

The Tampa Bay Bucs play baseball now?

Pirates. I noticed his avatar was the Pirate logo. Penguins play tonight. That was the reference to the big game. No conspiracy theory. I just live in the same area.



Dunga Bee
Put A Little Butter On It

join:2004-07-26
USA
reply to drew
said by drew:

So, Brom, you feel that Dunga's action (mistake) warrants bringing him to L-1?

While I appreciate the sentiment, this is exactly what I would do if I was mafia. Since I suspect you, you are stepping up in a lukewarm defense of me to act more town like.

Again, my theory only, just sayin...


Brom
Let's go Bucs

join:2010-10-26
Pittsburgh, PA
reply to drew
I'm pretty sure I only brought him to L-2, and yes I feel that it was warranted.

And Dunga, while drew's vote may have been fast from your point of view, it didn't put you in any real danger of being lynched yet. That's also a reason why I voted, because your reaction to an L-3 vote seemed off to me.


tmodelt

join:2010-05-06
Fletcher, NC
reply to Kristopher
checking in for the day. I am not voting for Dunga just yet he is a newb so for now he gets a pass.


Jobbie
Keep It Simple
Premium
join:2010-08-24
Mexico
kudos:5
reply to Brom
This is what I am seeing, It is an overreaction to a vote that is not putting him on danger.

While me know both Dunga and forty are still "newish" i don't believe that gives them a free pass, all the opposite the voting from the older players will show them what reactions are "scummy" like and to be careful with their posting. Here even a bad bold formatting or a super quick vote can get you lynched.

My vote stands right now.
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"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."


Kristopher
Tarquin
Premium
join:2002-10-11
Tyrinaria
kudos:4
reply to Kristopher
Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 5

DungaBee - 3 - Jobbie, drew, Brom (L-2)
ProtusMose - 1 - Blockfire (L-4)
drew - 2 - ProtusMose, DungaBee (L-3)
Archivis - 1 - tmodelt (L-4)

Players not voting: Archivis, f0rtys3ven
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Dunga Bee
Put A Little Butter On It

join:2004-07-26
USA
reply to Brom
said by Brom:

...your reaction to an L-3 vote seemed off to me.


Aha! That was a bit of a light bulb moment for me. I never thought of that aspect of the game.

I just see a vote as a vote other than the hammer vote. I see your point now. I felt like any vote has meaning and reacted accordingly. I see your point now about the significance or lack of based on how close the vote places you to an actual lynch.

I also do not want or expect any leniency for being new. You may choose not to vote based on a mistake because I am new and you are uncertain if my mistake was real or fake or whatever. But, don't keep me alive just because I am new and you think I should get to play longer or something like that.


drew
Radiant
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6
reply to Brom
said by Brom:

I'm pretty sure I only brought him to L-2, and yes I feel that it was warranted.

You're correct. My mistake.


f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI
reply to Kristopher
I voted night.

You missed it. Bot page 2.


drew
Radiant
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6
I was just about to ask...

You're paying enough attention to vote night and then clarify the mod's mistake, but don't feel compelled to discuss Dunga other than a "Lynching noobs day one isn't nice. Dicks." comment?


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flickr | 'Cause I've been waiting, all my life just waiting
For you to shine, shine your light on me


Jobbie
Keep It Simple
Premium
join:2010-08-24
Mexico
kudos:5
reply to f0rtys3ven
What are you talking about we are still on page 1.


ProtusMose
Immortal. Eternal.
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join:2001-10-03
Bellevue, NE
kudos:4
Reviews:
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said by Jobbie:

What are you talking about we are still on page 1.

He hasn't been in a 14,000 post crazy game yet. It took me 3 games to switch to 100ppp.


drew
Radiant
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6
You've been here (DSLR) longer than I have and JUST now turned to 100ppp?


Dunga Bee
Put A Little Butter On It

join:2004-07-26
USA
reply to Jobbie
said by Jobbie:

What are you talking about we are still on page 1.

I am using the "watch" mode of viewing the thread which places newest on top. Good idea or no?


Jobbie
Keep It Simple
Premium
join:2010-08-24
Mexico
kudos:5
said by Dunga Bee:

said by Jobbie:

What are you talking about we are still on page 1.

I am using the "watch" mode of viewing the thread which places newest on top. Good idea or no?

It hink it will make it hard when you want to go through what happened on previous days.

See Drew's comment above.
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"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."


ProtusMose
Immortal. Eternal.
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Bellevue, NE
kudos:4
reply to drew
Didn't switch until middle of last year.


f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI
reply to drew
I am on page 3.

No I don't feel compelled to discuss Dunga. Its Day 1.

Hes chatty its not a sin. Chattiness got me lynched last game. Hence me no chatty.


drew
Radiant
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6
reply to Jobbie
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Dunga Bee
Put A Little Butter On It

join:2004-07-26
USA
OK, I switched to 100ppp and will use normal mode and see how that works for me.

Thanks.


drew
Radiant
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6
reply to f0rtys3ven
said by f0rtys3ven:

No I don't feel compelled to discuss Dunga. Its Day 1.

Hes chatty its not a sin. Chattiness got me lynched last game. Hence me no chatty.

So if this conversation was taking place on day 2, you'd comment?

And you think that his mistake and responses are just "chatty?"
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flickr | 'Cause I've been waiting, all my life just waiting
For you to shine, shine your light on me


f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI
If he makes it to day 2 than sure I'll comment.

And you can read my previous statements to get what I think, I believe my thoughts are above your question.


drew
Radiant
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6
Your previous statements in this thread don't answer my questions.


f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI
reply to drew
said by drew:

Your previous statements in this thread don't answer my questions.

No?

said by f0rtys3ven:

No I don't feel compelled to discuss Dunga. Its Day 1.

Hes chatty its not a sin.

Obviously thats what I think or I wouldn't have typed it.
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I guess words are a motherfucker, they can be great. Or they can degrade, or even worse, they can teach hate. It's like these kids hang on every single statement we make.


drew
Radiant
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6
You're being obtuse.

FoS: 47


Brom
Let's go Bucs

join:2010-10-26
Pittsburgh, PA
reply to f0rtys3ven
said by f0rtys3ven:

No I don't feel compelled to discuss Dunga. Its Day 1.

What do you feel compelled to discuss?


f0rtys3ven
47

join:2011-09-01
Lansing, MI
IDK what do you wanna talk about?


drew
Radiant
Premium
join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
kudos:6
You're awful at this game.
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