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Tomek
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join:2002-01-30
Valley Stream, NY

IMEI change

They do that all over Europe. Stolen phones get blacklisted, but thieves change IMEI number and viola! works.

Worst is verizon with stolen phones, they simply re-activate them -_- for anybody who requests it.
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fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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Re: IMEI change

said by Tomek:

Worst is verizon with stolen phones, they simply re-activate them -_- for anybody who requests it.

Verizon actually blacklists ESNs. AT&T doesn't care.

inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

Re: IMEI change

bull shi they only blacklist ESNs that are attached to an account with money owed.
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Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
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Re: IMEI change

said by inteller:

bull shi they only blacklist ESNs that are attached to an account with money owed.

no, they blacklist ESNs of stolen devices too.

Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
Reason for that is different technologies.

You can't exactly change a SIM card in a CDMA phone, because they don't utilize it. As for an at&t phone (GSM), just swap the SIM card.

This worked for me when he switched to VZ and gave me his old Captivate and Aria. Since then, I threw in a StraightTalk SIM card in both of them and they're quite useful.. after I threw on CM9.
Chubbysumo

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Re: IMEI change

said by Simba7:

Reason for that is different technologies.

You can't exactly change a SIM card in a CDMA phone, because they don't utilize it. As for an at&t phone (GSM), just swap the SIM card.

This worked for me when he switched to VZ and gave me his old Captivate and Aria. Since then, I threw in a StraightTalk SIM card in both of them and they're quite useful.. after I threw on CM9.

SIM card based phones go off of 2 things, the IMEI(the individual number assigned to the phone), and the SIM card ID. The SIM info only links the IMEI to a subscriber, but the phone does not work without an IMEI. AT&T has the power to blacklist IMEI numbers, but they have chosen not to.
iFail 5G

join:2011-08-03
said by Simba7:

Reason for that is different technologies.

You can't exactly change a SIM card in a CDMA phone, because they don't utilize it. As for an at&t phone (GSM), just swap the SIM card.

This worked for me when he switched to VZ and gave me his old Captivate and Aria. Since then, I threw in a StraightTalk SIM card in both of them and they're quite useful.. after I threw on CM9.

Newer Verizon LTE phone's have SIM card's and they do still blacklist the handsets.

Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Valley Stream, NY
said by fifty nine:

said by Tomek:

Worst is verizon with stolen phones, they simply re-activate them -_- for anybody who requests it.

Verizon actually blacklists ESNs. AT&T doesn't care.

I never had problems activating stolen phones on verizon network
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Chubbysumo

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Re: IMEI change

said by Tomek:

I never had problems activating stolen phones on verizon network

are you sure they are listed as stolen? See my above comment, they do NOT activate phones that are listed as stolen in their system, unless of course, you are the original purchaser, and you are the one that listed it as "stolen".

Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Valley Stream, NY

Re: IMEI change

said by Chubbysumo:

said by Tomek:

I never had problems activating stolen phones on verizon network

are you sure they are listed as stolen? See my above comment, they do NOT activate phones that are listed as stolen in their system, unless of course, you are the original purchaser, and you are the one that listed it as "stolen".

Maybe it all changed recently, but I my brother had his phone stolen and we found kid that activated it and used it. I then also tried activating phone that was initially lost by my friend (he got a replacement and recovered it few weeks later) and were also able to simply activated it, but that was like 3 years ago
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Chubbysumo

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Re: IMEI change

said by Tomek:

Maybe it all changed recently, but I my brother had his phone stolen and we found kid that activated it and used it. I then also tried activating phone that was initially lost by my friend (he got a replacement and recovered it few weeks later) and were also able to simply activated it, but that was like 3 years ago

again, lost does not mean stolen. The phone has to be reported as stolen, not lost, or verizon will not care. Even if he gets a replacement thru the insurance program, unless he specifies that it was stolen, it does not get blocked. Also, with "your brother", i am betting he didnt report the phone as stolen to verizon, only lost.
iFail 5G

join:2011-08-03
said by Tomek:

said by fifty nine:

said by Tomek:

Worst is verizon with stolen phones, they simply re-activate them -_- for anybody who requests it.

Verizon actually blacklists ESNs. AT&T doesn't care.

I never had problems activating stolen phones on verizon network

Apparently the people you steal them from haven't reported them stolen yet...
Chubbysumo

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said by Tomek:

They do that all over Europe. Stolen phones get blacklisted, but thieves change IMEI number and viola! works.

Its a lot harder to change the imei of newer smartphones, and so this is almost a moot point now.

said by Tomek:

Worst is verizon with stolen phones, they simply re-activate them -_- for anybody who requests it.

no, they dont. If the phone is reported as lost or stolen, unless you bring it in, and can be proven to have the original purchase receipt, they do not reactivate them or allow them. Case in point: friend of my wife "lost" her phone, and went and bought a new one. She found her old phone, but never informed Verizon of it, and gave it to my wife. When my wife went in to turn it on, and use it as a prepaid phone on verizon, the store actually called the police, and she was grilled on how she got it, and they would not unblock it unless her friend came in and showed an ID so they could look up the purchase receipt.

inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

Re: IMEI change

what you describe happens so rarely it is an isolated case. i guarantee if you come in and want to buy a big plan that verizon sales moneky is gonna activate it without question.
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Chubbysumo

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Re: IMEI change

said by inteller:

what you describe happens so rarely it is an isolated case. i guarantee if you come in and want to buy a big plan that verizon sales moneky is gonna activate it without question.

no, up here it happens quite a bit. They are nazis over stolen or lost iphones too.