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chances14

join:2010-03-03
Michigan
reply to ArrayList

Re: Cut the cord...

I find it funny when people completely miss the point of someone's post. My point was that the same people who say tv is bad, are also some of the people who spend all their time on the Internet, which can be just as bad as tv



ArrayList
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Internet has the capability of interacting with other people. TV does not. Unless you spend all of your time online on one site, you cannot compare the two.


chances14

join:2010-03-03
Michigan

Yes you can. Go look at the first post in this thread in which I originally responded too. You can't tell me that the same principles in that post don't apply to the Internet as well



dslfan90

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reply to ArrayList

said by ArrayList:

Internet has the capability of interacting with other people. TV does not.

Absolutely not true.


ArrayList
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said by dslfan90 :

said by ArrayList:

Internet has the capability of interacting with other people. TV does not.

Absolutely not true.

so, you are saying that it is not the case that Internet has the capabiltiy of interacting with other people?

I'm doing it right now, unless you are a robot.

I have never seen a case, where I could interact with other people through my Television.


ArrayList
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reply to chances14

Some people have access to the internet everywhere. I've used it when I went camping before to help me find information on how to treat a rash.

I see your point and it is a bit of a stretch to be honest.



dslfan90

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reply to ArrayList

If you never watch TV and have made that choice, that is fine for you. Others make different choices. It doesn't make you right and someone else wrong. It also does not make you better than anyone else.



ArrayList
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Of course it doesn't. But I'm not stuck with a big ugly tv bill every month for programming that I cannot watch because I'm too busy out being awesome.

Keep in mind that in 2020 the average cable tv customer will be dumping about $25k into cable tv every decade. Sounds like a great investment /s


chances14

join:2010-03-03
Michigan
reply to ArrayList

said by ArrayList:

I see your point and it is a bit of a stretch

Not really. Internet addiction is real and prevalent in today's society ,which can lead to the points that was made in the original post in this thread in some cases, just like with tv. Seems like everyone just has to have a smartphone these days


dslfan90

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I have a niece who sends about 3,000 text messages a month and spends about 1,500 minutes a month talking on her cell phone. She also spend many, many hours surfing on her desktop on the internet. Are these activities healthier, more fulfilling and better than watching TV?



ArrayList
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reply to chances14

said by chances14:

said by ArrayList:

I see your point and it is a bit of a stretch

Internet addiction is real and prevalent in today's society

sources??? I'll buy that it is real, but prevalent I don't think so.


ArrayList
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said by dslfan90 :

I have a niece who sends about 3,000 text messages a month and spends about 1,500 minutes a month talking on her cell phone. She also spend many, many hours surfing on her desktop on the internet. Are these activities healthier, more fulfilling and better than watching TV?

at least she is talking with her peers. If she was in front of a TV she wouldn't be talking to anyone.

I guess next you are going to say that it isn't health to communicate with other human beings?


dslfan90

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You are ridiculous. It's not possible to have a meaningful discussion with you. Apparently, doing more fulfilling things than watching TV is not paying off for you.



ArrayList
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Oh oh I have another plus for the Internet. There are trolls. Does your fancy TV have trolls?



ArrayList
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reply to dslfan90

And I don't know why you gave up? I asked questions and I would like an answer.


Mele20
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reply to ArrayList

said by ArrayList:

said by dslfan90 :

I have a niece who sends about 3,000 text messages a month and spends about 1,500 minutes a month talking on her cell phone. She also spend many, many hours surfing on her desktop on the internet. Are these activities healthier, more fulfilling and better than watching TV?

at least she is talking with her peers. If she was in front of a TV she wouldn't be talking to anyone.

I guess next you are going to say that it isn't health to communicate with other human beings?

I guess you never heard of a SMART TV? Or a Rasberry pi attached to your TV.
--
When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson


ArrayList
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said by Mele20:

I guess you never heard of a SMART TV? Or a Rasberry pi attached to your TV.

Is that a line item on your cable bill? If not, I wasn't considering it as a part of TV Service.


milnoc

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reply to ArrayList

said by ArrayList:

Oh oh I have another plus for the Internet. There are trolls. Does your fancy TV have trolls?

Does Fox News count?


Cjones

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said by dslfan90 :

I have a niece who sends about 3,000 text messages a month and spends about 1,500 minutes a month talking on her cell phone. She also spend many, many hours surfing on her desktop on the internet. Are these activities healthier, more fulfilling and better than watching TV?

As to the text messages and conversation, yes. How much "healthier, more fulfilling and better" they are depends on the content, but if you ask me which is behaving in a better way, a person sitting in front of a screen consuming content or one talking to people, even about trivialities, I'd say the talker is very probably, if not certainly, in a better state. As for the desktop, it depends how much time is spent consuming and how much producing. That time which is spent consuming is of the same quality as time in front of a TV, how good depends on what is being consumed. That time spent producing is better than the time in front of the TV.


dslfan90

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said by Cjones :

As to the text messages and conversation, yes. How much "healthier, more fulfilling and better" they are depends on the content, but if you ask me which is behaving in a better way, a person sitting in front of a screen consuming content or one talking to people, even about trivialities, I'd say the talker is very probably, if not certainly, in a better state. As for the desktop, it depends how much time is spent consuming and how much producing. That time which is spent consuming is of the same quality as time in front of a TV, how good depends on what is being consumed. That time spent producing is better than the time in front of the TV.

More opinions! Please provider the authoritative sources to support your statements. I now know that those are required in order to offer an opinion.


Cjones

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Authoritative sources... Interesting. Before, you asked for studies. I'd be glad to provide them if you can provide studies proving the following

adding two things to two other things always equals four things.
It is better to teach children to read than to make them work fourteen hours a day in sweatshops.
It is worse to pour your toxic waste into rivers than not to produce toxic waste at all.
The game of baseball has three bases and a home plate.

Are these things supported by studies? If so, where are the studies? If they're not supported by studies, are they not true? There are other ways of determining whether a thing is true, that is, other ways of supporting a view or argument. Relying on studies and sources is not the only one, or even the best.



dslfan90

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In other words, you cannot provide sources. That's what I thought.



Cjones

@rogers.com

In other words, I provide reasons, not sources. If you will not listen to reason, then all the sources on the planet will do nothing for you, they depend on reason, too. If and when you'd like to argue with reasons, rather than from authority which is useless in this context, it would be good to hear from you.



dslfan90

@sbcglobal.net

When you have something to offer other than your personal slanted opinions, it would be good to hear from you.