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battleop

join:2005-09-28
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reply to fifty nine

Re: Not a smart meter problem

You really think they are doing this for your bottom line?

25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to iamwhatiam
yes it does. How do you figure its not? It is limited due to the amount of people you put on it. You can only go so far. Once you hit that cap you're done.

TheMG
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join:2007-09-04
Canada
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·NorthWest Tel
reply to battleop
said by battleop:

And now they can bill you more per Kw during peak hours. Don't think they are not thinking about forcing you to do your laundry at 3am because the rates are cheaper.

Peak/off-peak mechanical meters have been around for decades. This is not something new.

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
reply to fifty nine
"AND there is limited generation capacity"

thats what I meant when I said bandwidth was unlimited. Sure the pipe may be oversold and it may not be sending full speed out to you, but it doesn't have a limited generation capacity.

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
reply to DavePR
Its not exactly deregulation's fault. in fact some government regulation only permits there to be one telco or cableco or powerco per city or what have you.

InvalidError

join:2008-02-03
kudos:5
reply to iamwhatiam
A 1Gbps link has 1Gbps of bandwidth, it isn't unlimited, you cannot push more than 1Gbps through it. If you want to increase bandwidth, you have to upgrade equipment and possibly the wiring.

While fiber may have theoretically infinite bandwidth, physical, practical, technical, economical, etc. constraints limits usable bandwidth to a tiny fraction of that, meaning that the achievable bandwidth at a particular moment in time is always very much finite. While speeds in excess of 3Tbps/strand have been demonstrated, the laser setups required to make it happen are not practical for everyday deployments, which is why those fancy arrangements are almost exclusively applied to trans-oceanic and other similar situations where pulling a new cable or pulling cables with gobs of spare strands is not an option. On trans-oceanic cables, each extra strand means one extra amplifier every 120km or so, so the number of strands that can be carried is limited by power.

While you may have lots of bandwidth between two points, it will never be unlimited.

zoomer

join:2007-09-06
Rochester, NY
reply to bbbc
Utilities are regulated entities. If everything remains the same, average users will see no change to their bill. Users who actively try to shift their consumption to off peak times save utilities from ramping expensive peak generation, and are compensated for their trouble. These who demand that their AC, washer, dryer, dishwasher and charging electric car all be done at these couple hours around 7pm and 7am can do so, and pay for the convenience.


dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4
reply to battleop
said by battleop:

So you are excited to see your power bill go up?

mine went up 240% after getting my "mandatory" smartmeter!


iamwhatiam

@verizon.net
reply to InvalidError
You, too, should try looking up the term "limited resource" as it applies to "non-renewable" and [not to] "renewable"... and learn what each means as well as the situations where it's appropriate to use the term "limited resource" (which ain't here).


nonamesleft

join:2011-11-07
Manitowoc, WI
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to fifty nine
said by fifty nine:

My utility is not a corporation.

I'm sure it sucks to be on one that is though!

Utility's are NOT your friend, even if it isn't a large corporation. They will all find ways to milk your pocket-book.


skeechan
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join:2012-01-26
AA169|170
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·Clear Wireless
·Cox HSI
·Verizon FiOS

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reply to DavePR
No they didn't. Distribution in the area is exclusively Edison. You don't have a choice in power distributor. And even for the energy source, ESP choice was suspended during this period (there was no "direct access" program), you had no 'choice' in sourcing energy.

Edison at the time (late 1990's to 2003 when the field was named for them) had a captive audience and simply wasted ratepayer dollars.


skeechan
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reply to 25139889
No, some other advertiser would have done it, just as we have STAPLES Center and had the GREAT WESTERN forum. Even now, there isn't a brand name on the park, it's Angel Stadium. There is zero justification for Edison spending ratepayer money to advertise.

jp10558
Premium
join:2005-06-24
Willseyville, NY
reply to 88615298
Strange, our hot water heater is propane - uses no electricity as far as I know beyond the switching gear...

jp10558
Premium
join:2005-06-24
Willseyville, NY
reply to TheMG
I was wondering about this. My grandmother used to talk about "night rate" electricity and running the clothes dryer at night ...


88615298
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join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to jp10558
said by jp10558:

Strange, our hot water heater is propane - uses no electricity as far as I know beyond the switching gear...

good for you. You are in the minority. most people have electric water heaters.


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to dvd536
said by dvd536:

said by battleop:

So you are excited to see your power bill go up?

mine went up 240% after getting my "mandatory" smartmeter!

bullshit. If it did it wasn't because of the smart meter. PROOF or you fuck goats in the ass.

jp10558
Premium
join:2005-06-24
Willseyville, NY
reply to 88615298
said by 88615298:

said by jp10558:

Strange, our hot water heater is propane - uses no electricity as far as I know beyond the switching gear...

good for you. You are in the minority. most people have electric water heaters.

Must be a city thing. My neighboors have Oil furnace that runs the hot water heater, next ones over also have propane. I wonder if rural folks use non-electric water heaters mostly or if I'm in an unusual area...
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Anonymous_
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127.0.0.1
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reply to fifty nine
said by fifty nine:

This has nothing to do with smart meters. You can use a magnet on an old fashioned mechanical meter and slow them down to steal electricity (yes, it's stealing.)

the only people stealing is the Power Co with the outrages rates. charging 2-3x the market price

the normal price should be 0.07 per kwh from water turbine type.

most charge upto .25 per kwh fossil fuels

fossil fuels are NOT cheaper. as they claim.