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<title>Topic &#x27;Re: IPv6 beta&#x27; in forum &#x27;TekSavvy&#x27; - dslreports.com</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 11:46:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : Same. Tunnelling to tunnelbroker.net on @teksavvy.com login is a lot faster during peak hours.<br><br>I know the V6 service is still a beta but the performance (and lack of commentary from TSI on the issue) is a little disappointing.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[notfred posted : Yup, I've had the same as well. After going back and forth in the direct forum I gave up and just did a tunnel from Hurricane Electric via tunnelbroker.net]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 22:31:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[DragonSpyre posted : I am experiencing the exact same problem as well.  Extremely high latency on IPV6 @hsiservice and an inability to pull more then 7mbit on my 15mbit connection.  When I switch back to IPV4 @teksavvy latency is back to normal and full sync speed can be utilized.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 21:45:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : So, doing a brief test again today I'm noticing that IPv6 congestion during primetime still seems to be an issue (whereas standard login congestion seems fine).<br><br>@teksavvy.com: 8ms pings.<br>@hsiservice.net: 100ms pings and jittery like crazy.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 18:48:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[clarknova posted : So I guess this is still a non-starter for the west, since we haven't heard otherwise?<br><small>--<br>db</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 13:31:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Grokko posted : Does anyone have the terminal config for Mikrotik RouterOS 6, minus any identifying info, that I may study? I can get the router connected, and even get DNS responses, but if I ping6 ipv6.google.com from linux, i get:<br><br>PING ipv6.google.com(yyz08s10-in-x11.1e100.net) 56 data bytes<br>From x:x:x:x:x:x Destination unreachable: Address unreachable<br><br>So it appears I'm close, but haven't got the Mikrotik routing yet. Perhaps looking at a working configuration may give me some insight as to what I need to do for routing and firewall.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:36:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[smartel posted : Tonight, it's my turn to get horrendous performance with my IPv6 (@hsiservice.net) account. 389ms ping on speedtest.net with 0.21Mbps download.<br><br>With my @teksavvy.com account everything is normal: 22ms ping and 5.13Mbps download.<br><br>Strange.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2013 22:12:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1849405" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1849405');">eli</a>:</said><p>Is there anything being done about the @hsiservice logins that is having congestions issues?<br> </p></div>I gave up on the native V6 a couple of weeks ago. Hurricane Electric  / TunnelBroker.net 6in4 tunnel is as fast as native even in off peak hours and during peak hours when the @hsiservice.net logins are unusable the 6in4 tunnel via a @teksavvy.com is still fast.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2013 02:01:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[eli posted : Is there anything being done about the @hsiservice logins that is having congestions issues?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:26:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[RobinK posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/990827" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=990827');">RobinK</a>:</said><p>I recently switched to my @teksavvy.com from my @hsiservice login because of the huge congestions issues with the latter and I am still getting my IPv6 address. Has teksavvy enabled IPv6 for standard logins now? Or is this an oddity?<br> </p></div>So you're using @teksavvy.com and your V6 address space is still working? You can ping outside and test-ipv6.com works?<br><br>Maybe they're finally rolling v6 out to production.<br> </p></div>Looks like false alarm. I thought it was working because the only reason I noticed was the IPv6 page indicator in my browser was on for both google and facebook while browsing. But since losing sync last night, I do not have IPv6 connectivity anymore.<br><small>--<br>Argue opinions using facts. Not facts using opinions.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:56:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/990827" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=990827');">RobinK</a>:</said><p>I recently switched to my @teksavvy.com from my @hsiservice login because of the huge congestions issues with the latter and I am still getting my IPv6 address. Has teksavvy enabled IPv6 for standard logins now? Or is this an oddity?<br> </p></div>So you're using @teksavvy.com and your V6 address space is still working? You can ping outside and test-ipv6.com works?<br><br>Maybe they're finally rolling v6 out to production.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:29:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[squircle posted : Well you don't "get" an IPv6 address with either; it's all statically-assigned. So this would be something of your doing, not Teksavvy's.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:08:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[RobinK posted : I recently switched to my @teksavvy.com from my @hsiservice login because of the huge congestions issues with the latter and I am still getting my IPv6 address. Has teksavvy enabled IPv6 for standard logins now? Or is this an oddity?<br><small>--<br>Argue opinions using facts. Not facts using opinions.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:12:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1484420" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1484420');">brad</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1005234" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1005234');">bthornhill</a>:</said><p>Well, according to Cisco it does not support IPv6CP, so their claim of IPv6 support is false, to be blunt.<br><br>The router demands the default gateway be entered, so I'm stalled at this point.  I'm not going to keep dropping $150 routers playing a guessing game.<br> </p></div>Ya, not having IPv6 over PPPoE support would be a pretty big issue for their IPv6 support.<br> </p></div>Seems a pretty big fail on Cisco's part.<br><br>I had issues getting 6rd working on a Cisco E4500 as well (Rogers 6rd BR's). Both a D-link and an ASUS worked fine and are very stable but the E4500 wouldn't even get a ping through.<br><br>Hell, even an Airport Extreme hacked to work on 6rd by manually calculating the prefixes worked.<br><br>Amusing considering the 6rd RFC was written by Cisco.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:03:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[brad posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1005234" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1005234');">bthornhill</a>:</said><p>Well, according to Cisco it does not support IPv6CP, so their claim of IPv6 support is false, to be blunt.<br><br>The router demands the default gateway be entered, so I'm stalled at this point.  I'm not going to keep dropping $150 routers playing a guessing game.<br> </p></div>Ya, not having IPv6 over PPPoE support would be a pretty big issue for their IPv6 support.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:46:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[bthornhill posted : Well, according to Cisco it does not support IPv6CP, so their claim of IPv6 support is false, to be blunt.<br><br>The router demands the default gateway be entered, so I'm stalled at this point.  I'm not going to keep dropping $150 routers playing a guessing game.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:55:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[brad posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1005234" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1005234');">bthornhill</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>WAN IPv6 Address: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::1 <br>WAN Prefix Length: 64<br>WAN IPv6 Gateway: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::1  (same as your address)</p></div>On my router, it kicks back the error "IPv6 Address and Default IPv6 Gateway should not be same."  This makes sense, and I'm not sure how it could work as written...<br><br>The Default IPv6 Gateway is the one missing piece of the puzzle for me since my Cisco apparently doesn't support IPv6CP.<br> </p></div>You couldn't use IPv6 over PPP without IPv6CP support. I don't know the specifics of the UI for your router but you're probably setting the v6 connection mode to PPPoE somewhere and that implies the use of IPv6CP.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[johnwhelan posted : I think the problem is when IPv6 first started to roll out it was more a technical curiosity than anything else.  It was probably fashionable to modify router software which is normally not recommended for ordinary mortals. <br><br>It's been around a number of years now but its beginning to gain some traction with end users for pure functionality reasons.  IPSec is probably the most important but peer to peer is also becoming important and IPv6 offers some advantages here besides the running out of address space whatever.<br><br>Also more home routers support it without modified software.<br><br>To move forward and expand to a wider audience it needs simpler clearer documentation which I think has appeared on this thread.  Thank you very much.<br><br>If someone none technical is told the userid for IPv4 is @teksavvy.com and later IPv6 uses @hsiservice.net there is little reason for them to realise that @hsiservice.net also has IPv4 as well as IPv6.<br><br>Also the terminology used by ASUS is not the same as used by Teksavvy.<br><br>I used to hire librarians 'cause they were intelligent and cheap and get them to write down the steps in terms they could understand.  We had many fewer queries from end users once we did this.  The downside was the agency I hired them from was talking to me one day saying they couldn't quite understand what I did with them, they all seemed very happy to work for me but then went off and got jobs as technical writers afterwards.<br><br>Cheerio John]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 21:16:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1005234" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1005234');">bthornhill</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>WAN IPv6 Address: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::1 <br>WAN Prefix Length: 64<br>WAN IPv6 Gateway: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::1  (same as your address)</p></div>On my router, it kicks back the error "IPv6 Address and Default IPv6 Gateway should not be same."  This makes sense, and I'm not sure how it could work as written...<br><br>The Default IPv6 Gateway is the one missing piece of the puzzle for me since my Cisco apparently doesn't support IPv6CP.<br> </p></div> <br>I know on it's face it shouldn't work. The ASUS firmware seems to require these fields to be filled out but seems to be happy using what is provided by the PPP connection in place. <br><br>I can't remember testing V6 over PPP on a Cisco but I -think- I had it working at some point.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bthornhill posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>WAN IPv6 Address: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::1 <br>WAN Prefix Length: 64<br>WAN IPv6 Gateway: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::1  (same as your address)</p></div>On my router, it kicks back the error "IPv6 Address and Default IPv6 Gateway should not be same."  This makes sense, and I'm not sure how it could work as written...<br><br>The Default IPv6 Gateway is the one missing piece of the puzzle for me since my Cisco apparently doesn't support IPv6CP.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[marcel posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>N66u is easy to configure with TekSavvy.<br><br>Yes, you do use "Static IPv6". In the future hopefully this will move to automatic with DHCPv6-PD but for now static is the way it's done.<br><br>Configure your PPPoE connection for your @hsiservice.net login first and verify that regular IPv4 works fine, then...<br><br>Assuming TekSavvy assigned you:<br><br>IPV6 /64: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::/64<br>IPV6 /56: 2607:f2c0:f00f:bb::/56<br><br>You would fill in the following on your 66u:<br><br>WAN IPv6 Address: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::1 <br>WAN Prefix Length: 64<br>WAN IPv6 Gateway: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::1  (same as your address)<br><br>LAN IPv6 Prefix: 2607:f2c0:f00f:bb::<br>LAN Prefix Length: 56<br>LAN IPv6 Address	: 2607:f2c0:f00f:bb::1<br><br>So, the WAN is your /64 address with "1" on the end (or could be anything, it's just an assignment you give) and a 64 prefix (hence /64).<br><br>The LAN prefix is your /56 without any address (so ending in ::), 56 as the prefix lenght, and your prefix with "1" at the end (or whatever you want) as the LAN address.<br><br>You can leave the DNS servers blank as TSI's v4 name servers resolve AAAA without issue and I've found TSI's v6 name servers be a little unreliable.<br><br>Once this is done you can go to &raquo;<A HREF="http://test-ipv6.com" >test-ipv6.com</A><br><br>If it shows the following:<br><br>Your IPv6 address on the public Internet appears to be XXXX<br><br>then it works. Hope that helps.<br> </p></div>I have almost given up on this, thank you very much this works for my RT-AC66U router as well. I just wish ASUS would give better documentation on how to set this up. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1484420" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1484420');">brad</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1860171" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1860171');">johnwhelan</a>:</said><p>So it appears the new userid is both IPv4 and IPV6 which I didn't appreciate.<br> </p></div>Huh? That's what it is supposed to be. Not making any sense.<br> </p></div>I think he meant appreciate as in 'understand', not that he was unhappy.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 00:36:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[brad posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1860171" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1860171');">johnwhelan</a>:</said><p>So it appears the new userid is both IPv4 and IPV6 which I didn't appreciate.<br> </p></div>Huh? That's what it is supposed to be. Not making any sense.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 23:28:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1860171" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1860171');">johnwhelan</a>:</said><p>So it appears the new userid is both IPv4 and IPV6 which I didn't appreciate.<br> </p></div>Correct. The @hsiservice.net login will give you both traditional IPv4 and IPv6 over PPP natively.<br><br>Enjoy.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[johnwhelan posted : I dug around the WAN settings and eventually stumbled across  PPPoE then it was just a matter of dropping in the new userid.  So it appears the new userid is both IPv4 and IPV6 which I didn't appreciate.<br><br>The test-ipv6.com shows its all working.  I did wonder if I might need to play in Win 7 but apparently not.<br><br>Many Thanks<br><br>Cheerio John]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1860171" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1860171');">johnwhelan</a>:</said><p>I now have the IPV6 setup as static with the addresses in.<br><br>>Configure your PPPoE connection for your @hsiservice.net login first and verify that regular IPv4 works fine, then...<br><br>I'm still running on the old login not the @hsiservice.net so how do I change this?<br><br>Thanks John<br> </p></div>On the left where it says WAN, click that.<br>Change the username to your username @hsiservice.net<br>Click apply.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[johnwhelan posted : I now have the IPV6 setup as static with the addresses in.<br><br>>Configure your PPPoE connection for your @hsiservice.net login first and verify that regular IPv4 works fine, then...<br><br>I'm still running on the old login not the @hsiservice.net so how do I change this?<br><br>Thanks John]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : N66u is easy to configure with TekSavvy.<br><br>Yes, you do use "Static IPv6". In the future hopefully this will move to automatic with DHCPv6-PD but for now static is the way it's done.<br><br>Configure your PPPoE connection for your @hsiservice.net login first and verify that regular IPv4 works fine, then...<br><br>Assuming TekSavvy assigned you:<br><br>IPV6 /64: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::/64<br>IPV6 /56: 2607:f2c0:f00f:bb::/56<br><br>You would fill in the following on your 66u:<br><br>WAN IPv6 Address: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::1 <br>WAN Prefix Length: 64<br>WAN IPv6 Gateway: 2607:f2c0:a000:aa::1  (same as your address)<br><br>LAN IPv6 Prefix: 2607:f2c0:f00f:bb::<br>LAN Prefix Length: 56<br>LAN IPv6 Address	: 2607:f2c0:f00f:bb::1<br><br>So, the WAN is your /64 address with "1" on the end (or could be anything, it's just an assignment you give) and a 64 prefix (hence /64).<br><br>The LAN prefix is your /56 without any address (so ending in ::), 56 as the prefix lenght, and your prefix with "1" at the end (or whatever you want) as the LAN address.<br><br>You can leave the DNS servers blank as TSI's v4 name servers resolve AAAA without issue and I've found TSI's v6 name servers be a little unreliable.<br><br>Once this is done you can go to &raquo;<A HREF="http://test-ipv6.com" >test-ipv6.com</A><br><br>If it shows the following:<br><br>Your IPv6 address on the public Internet appears to be XXXX<br><br>then it works. Hope that helps.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:19:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[johnwhelan posted : It sounds like we need the static IP side but what the values for <br>WAN IPv6 Address	<br>WAN Prefix Length	<br>WAN IPv6 Gateway<br><br>LAN IPv6 Prefix	<br>LAN Prefix Length	<br>LAN IPv6 Address	<br><br>IPv6 DNS Server 1	<br>IPv6 DNS Server 2	<br>IPv6 DNS Server 3<br><br>are I'm unclear.  Perhaps someone can translate the terms into Teksavvyish.<br><br>Thanks John]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:41:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[marcel posted : I have RT-AC66U same options and I have pretty much given up on getting it to work with Teksavvy. I am not an expert on this stuff so I am not really sure who to blame but although I love my router Documentation on how to set up IPv6 simply sux. I wish it was automatic. I think that's what "DHCP-PD" connection would do if it was supported by Teksavvy.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:11:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[johnwhelan posted : I'm not sure how active this thread is but I'd like to add IPv6 to an ASUS rt-n66u running 3.0.0.4.220 firmware.<br><br>The options I get on the router under connection type are <br>Native with DHCP-PD<br>Static IPV6<br>and various tunneling options.<br><br>I have my /56 and /64 numbers from Teksavvy.<br><br>What should I enter and where?<br><br>Thanks John]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:21:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : Still seeing a lot of congestion on @hsiservice.net logins in the evenings. @teksavvy.com to google.ca = 8ms right now, @hsiservice.net to google.ca = 150ms.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 23:25:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1484420" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1484420');">brad</a>:</said><p>iOS supported v6 over HSPA already. The issue was with LTE only on the iPad and Wifi must have been with the iPad only too since it already worked with the iPod and iPhone with 5.x<br></p></div>iPad has supported V6 over Wifi only for a while so it must have been an LTE specific update.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 16:51:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[brad posted : One thing I noticed when testing out dnsmasq's ra-names feature which creates DNS AAAA/PTR records for v6 addies using RA based on comparing MAC addresses with a DHCPv4 request (to me that is pretty nice for a typical home network or smaller corp environments) is that the Boxee Box has v6 support with its embeded Linux distrib. The web browser and web related streaming works over v6 but not the Netflix client or SMB/NFS.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:09:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[brad posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>re: Android our app tests all show it works well in the lab. This is SLAAC configured and with IPv4 DNS servers that will return AAAA records, hence why we never see issues with it I suppose. I do know there are "v6 only" issues with Android for sure.<br> </p></div>You need RFC6106 support to receive the name servers on a v6-only network using RA or DHCPv6 and some environments like universities and corp. will insist on DHCPv6. Without those there is no point worrying about v6 only networks but they're a dependency.<br><br><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>re: iOS the one place iOS wasn't doing well was in V6 over WWAN. At WWDC Apple mentioned that iOS 6 now supports V6 over both Wi-Fi -and- LTE, which I took to mean that a) it didn't support V6 over WWAN previously and possibly b) it won't support V6 over HSPA. I didn't think to clarify with anyone.<br> </p></div>iOS supported v6 over HSPA already. The issue was with LTE only on the iPad and Wifi must have been with the iPad only too since it already worked with the iPod and iPhone with 5.x<br><br><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>re: 360; true enough. The MSDN blogs have some good info about this. It's basically a fork of Windows kernel and is entirely custom on top, using a subset of Win32. Interesting stuff but also suggests that V6 bake-in would need to be intentional.<br> </p></div>That wasn't to imply adding v6 support is impossible or anywhere near it and I think they very much could upgrade the 360 to support v6. But I wouldn't bet on it much with Xbox Durango coming out soon. I'm not sure if it will have it enabled out of the box or supported but it would be down the road just as Wii U/PS4 will.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:00:43 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1484420" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1484420');">brad</a>:</said><p>Unfortunately that is not true. Android has somewhat big warts with its v6 support. No DHCPv6 support, no RFC6106 support, it can't connect to v6-only networks over wireless, no UI support for displaying v6 info, it seems to have issues dropping RA packets/ICMP more than enough to cause problems, issues with its wireless (as in 3G/4G) support. AFAIK all of these issues do not exist with iOS. Apple over all has done a much better job (although they're not 100% perfect).<br><br>360 does NOT use Windows. It along with the original Xbox use their own custom OS. That seems to be a common misconception. It doesn't even use DirectX either but a derivative API.<br> </p></div>re: Android our app tests all show it works well in the lab. This is SLAAC configured and with IPv4 DNS servers that will return AAAA records, hence why we never see issues with it I suppose. I do know there are "v6 only" issues with Android for sure.<br><br>re: iOS the one place iOS wasn't doing well was in V6 over WWAN. At WWDC Apple mentioned that iOS 6 now supports V6 over both Wi-Fi -and- LTE, which I took to mean that a) it didn't support V6 over WWAN previously and possibly b) it won't support V6 over HSPA. I didn't think to clarify with anyone.<br><br>re: 360; true enough. The MSDN blogs have some good info about this. It's basically a fork of Windows kernel and is entirely custom on top, using a subset of Win32. Interesting stuff but also suggests that V6 bake-in would need to be intentional.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:02:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[brad posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>An additional portion of this problem is that there still isn't a very well defined port management system for IPV6 firewalls. <br><br>With V4 we have NAT-PMP and UPnP (gross) to handle this. V6 still doesn't really have a counterpart to tell the firewall to open ports as needed by opening/closing applications.<br><br>The port problem is compounded by address randomization on V6 networks by default in most OS's in SLAAC environments. DHCPv6 can solve this to some extent in that you can configure your router manually to always give your computer a specific address and then manually open ports needed but that's a pretty lousy solution compared to the relatively transparent operating of a NAT with PMP/UPnP support.<br><br>This is one area where Apple can show some real leadership - updating NAT-PMP to work well with IPv6 and really push it as a standard. Alas, Apple seems to care about 0% about IPv6, as evidenced by their V6 stack on OS X (happy eyeballs always on and can't be disabled) and their routers (PPPoE IPv6 completely unsupported).<br> </p></div>Not really true. UPnP has already been updated for IPv6 and there are already implementations out there supporting it now.<br><br>The privacy address issue shouldn't be an issue if the UPnP client is doing its job properly. It should be able to monitor the OS to see the new privacy address being added and as new connections are being made outbound using the new address the UPnP client should know to open the ports with the new IP address too.<br><br>I can't say as I agree about Apple and v6. There execution and implementation has not been perfect but in a lot of regards they have done a better job than most of the other vendors over all.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:56:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[brad posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>Android both support V6 without issue<br><br>Console wise I don't expect Sony or Nintendo to be really -with it- on this issue given their lineage. Since the 360 (and theoretical 720) are Windows based I can see them getting V6 "for free" as part of the operating system stack, but Sony and Nintendo would have to bake V6 in by choice and I don't really see either of them having the foresight.<br> </p></div>Unfortunately that is not true. Android has somewhat big warts with its v6 support. No DHCPv6 support, no RFC6106 support, it can't connect to v6-only networks over wireless, no UI support for displaying v6 info, it seems to have issues dropping RA packets/ICMP more than enough to cause problems, issues with its wireless (as in 3G/4G) support. AFAIK all of these issues do not exist with iOS. Apple over all has done a much better job (although they're not 100% perfect).<br><br>360 does NOT use Windows. It along with the original Xbox use their own custom OS. That seems to be a common misconception. It doesn't even use DirectX either but a derivative API.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:47:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[InvalidError posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>re: vendors - V6 support doesn't depend on hardware. If the device was Wifi or a cell radio and supports V4 it can support V6 via software without issue and almost always does. </p></div>The part about hardware was intended for software/OS in general. The Linux kernel (or Windows) supports millions of things that will never get attached to a tablet since tablets/smartphones/etc. lack the ports required to use them.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:35:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1526081" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1526081');">InvalidError</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>re: tablets/smartphones etc - this is quite untrue. Basically all smartphones and tablets (which basically all run iOS or Android) support IPv6 natively and without issue. </p></div>While I have no doubt that Android devices should technically support IPv6 since they are based on the Linux kernel, their UIs do a very good job not making any mention of it if IPv6 is actually enabled on them.<br><br>What the OS supports is moot if vendors either do not include the hardware/connectors to use it or do not enable those features on their products... and this being Linux we are talking about, compiling a kernel without IPv6 support to save a few hundred KBs on the kernel and related support tools is always an option.<br> </p></div>The UI portion is mixed. The main status screen lacks V6 address display for sure but the APN configuration has V4/V6 configuration for WWAN so it's in there. Most Canadians of course would never notice this as there are no WWAN providers handing out V6 anyways. <br><br>re: vendors - V6 support doesn't depend on hardware. If the device was Wifi or a cell radio and supports V4 it can support V6 via software without issue and almost always does.<br><br>In practice, as an Android developer, I've never seen an Android device in the last couple of years that didn't support V6 if it was offered by the LAN. Leaving out V6 from the kernel to save on resources is pretty much pointless on any modern or quasi-modern device. Testing V6 connectivity where possible is part of the standard test procedure for our connected apps so this is something I've had a pretty good look at.<br><br>And of course, iOS has supported V6 fully and includes status displays to indicate as such when enabled.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:16:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[InvalidError posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>re: tablets/smartphones etc - this is quite untrue. Basically all smartphones and tablets (which basically all run iOS or Android) support IPv6 natively and without issue. </p></div>While I have no doubt that Android devices should technically support IPv6 since they are based on the Linux kernel, their UIs do a very good job not making any mention of it if IPv6 is actually enabled on them.<br><br>What the OS supports is moot if vendors either do not include the hardware/connectors to use it or do not enable those features on their products... and this being Linux we are talking about, compiling a kernel without IPv6 support to save a few hundred KBs on the kernel and related support tools is always an option.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 12:53:10 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1526081" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1526081');">InvalidError</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1484420" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1484420');">brad</a>:</said><p>Another area that will benefit greatly from IPv6 is VoIP. SIP is a total pain with NAT. </p></div>The main reason for the pain is simply the requirement to keep an inbound port open on the accidental firewall created by NAT's IP:port S:D connection tracking: can't forward inbound until you know who to forward the traffic to.<br><br>You would run into many of the same problems with a basic IPv6 firewall that denies inbound by default much the same way NAT routers do.<br> </p></div>An additional portion of this problem is that there still isn't a very well defined port management system for IPV6 firewalls. <br><br>With V4 we have NAT-PMP and UPnP (gross) to handle this. V6 still doesn't really have a counterpart to tell the firewall to open ports as needed by opening/closing applications.<br><br>The port problem is compounded by address randomization on V6 networks by default in most OS's in SLAAC environments. DHCPv6 can solve this to some extent in that you can configure your router manually to always give your computer a specific address and then manually open ports needed but that's a pretty lousy solution compared to the relatively transparent operating of a NAT with PMP/UPnP support.<br><br>This is one area where Apple can show some real leadership - updating NAT-PMP to work well with IPv6 and really push it as a standard. Alas, Apple seems to care about 0% about IPv6, as evidenced by their V6 stack on OS X (happy eyeballs always on and can't be disabled) and their routers (PPPoE IPv6 completely unsupported).<br><br>Sigh. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:41:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1526081" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1526081');">InvalidError</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>At this point it's really not consumer manufacturers that are the hold up anymore. </p></div>The point was that we should have been at this point at least half a decade ago. If consumer hardware and devices had started supporting IPv6 10 years ago, the transition would be practically over by now.<br><br>Today, many devices (tablets, smartphones, smart appliances, etc.) are still IPv4-only.<br> </p></div>No I totally agree with you on what the main point is. The movement to IPV6 should be far further along by now. Google is stating 1.14% of all of their traffic as of today:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.google.com/ipv6/statistics.html" >www.google.com/ipv6/statistics.html</A><br><br>This should be much higher by now.<br><br>re: tablets/smartphones etc - this is quite untrue. Basically all smartphones and tablets (which basically all run iOS or Android) support IPv6 natively and without issue.<br><br>Smart appliances are another issue but are relatively uncommon right now.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:34:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SimplePanda posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1484420" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1484420');">brad</a>:</said><p>Unfortunately so true.<br><br>Although that is true there is also a good percentage of tablets, smartphones and some appliances that do have IPv6 support as well especially if based on iOS, Android, Blackberry 10/Tablet OS's, Symbian, Windows Phone 8.<br><br>Skype not support v6 yet is a pain. That is one of the most visible services still holding out.<br><br>I am also interested to see how Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft handle rolling out v6 for their consoles and online gaming especially with Wii U being out and PS4 / Xbox (Durango) coming out soon.<br> </p></div>iOS and Android both support V6 without issue, as does Windows 8 / Windows RT. That gets you pretty close to all tablets in the market.<br><br>Phone wise, same boat with the exception of pre-BB10 devices that still hold a few market percentage points. Obviously feature/non-smart phones aren't included in this but their general lack of IP connectivity makes that moot.<br><br>Same issue here as well though: carrier support is really the problem, at least in Canada. Verizon and T-Mobile are sending IPV6 over the air now, but nobody in Canada is to my knowledge. Rogers definitely is not, but that's no surprise considering Rogers can't even seem to keep their 6rd BR's up and running.<br><br>Console wise I don't expect Sony or Nintendo to be really -with it- on this issue given their lineage. Since the 360 (and theoretical 720) are Windows based I can see them getting V6 "for free" as part of the operating system stack, but Sony and Nintendo would have to bake V6 in by choice and I don't really see either of them having the foresight.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:21:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[InvalidError posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1484420" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1484420');">brad</a>:</said><p>Another area that will benefit greatly from IPv6 is VoIP. SIP is a total pain with NAT. </p></div>The main reason for the pain is simply the requirement to keep an inbound port open on the accidental firewall created by NAT's IP:port S:D connection tracking: can't forward inbound until you know who to forward the traffic to.<br><br>You would run into many of the same problems with a basic IPv6 firewall that denies inbound by default much the same way NAT routers do.<br><br>As far as I can see, the main potential problem IPv6 does fix for VoIP and similar services is the potential confusion in a scenario where someone owns multiple SIP devices that attempt to connect to the same server while using the same inbound port. On IPv4, the router would have no way to know which client packets belong to since they all have the same signature. Letting UPnP pick the inbound port or configuring clients with different ports both solve this IPv4 problem - assuming the router and SIP client's UPnP implementations are both working properly... though this goes for the IPv6 firewall as well.]]></description>
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<title>Re: IPv6 beta</title>
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<description><![CDATA[brad posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1526081" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1526081');">InvalidError</a>:</said><p>Since much of it is a chicken-and-the-egg problem (ISPs/incumbents are being lazy implementing IPv6 because few consumer modem/routers/devices support it) and consumer equipment manufacturers were being lazy doing IPv6 because no ISP/incumbents/routers supported it, things should start running a lot more smoothly now that the first IPv6 chickens have hatched.<br><br>We have finally reached the stage where people at least starting to notice IPv6 as a checkbox feature (they may not know what it does but they do notice that router/service A advertises support while router/service B does not) when buying routers and some other devices or services.<br><br>I'm curious to see whether or not Sony and Microsoft will choose to check the box or not. Considering how many router-related problems IPv6 would eliminate, it would be a shame if they decided to skip it completely. (As in neither at launch nor future patch.)<br> </p></div>Well, ya, there were a lot of issues that needed to reach a certain point of maturity and availability whether it is OS stack support, apps, IP transit, CDN support, etc etc etc. but we're hitting a sweet spot where enough of these things have happened that the old excuses are nothing but excuses any more.<br><br>I doubt the consoles will have v6 enabled out of the box at this point but I'm betting that support or the framework for supporting v6 exists within the OS now and most likely games are using the AF independent network API as is done for UNIX/Windows apps now. The API would just do the right thing once the v6 stack is enabled with the underlying OS. I could see Nintendo (since Wii U is already out and AFAIK does not support v6) rolling out an update at the end of this year or early next and we'll see how PS4/Xbox goes.<br><br>Another area that will benefit greatly from IPv6 is VoIP. SIP is a total pain with NAT.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 22:23:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: IPv6 beta</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IPv6-beta-28064679</link>
<description><![CDATA[InvalidError posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1484420" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1484420');">brad</a>:</said><p>I am also interested to see how Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft handle rolling out v6 for their consoles and online gaming especially with Wii U being out and PS4 / Xbox (Durango) coming out soon. </p></div>Since much of it is a chicken-and-the-egg problem (ISPs/incumbents are being lazy implementing IPv6 because few consumer modem/routers/devices support it) and consumer equipment manufacturers were being lazy doing IPv6 because no ISP/incumbents/routers supported it, things should start running a lot more smoothly now that the first IPv6 chickens have hatched.<br><br>We have finally reached the stage where people at least starting to notice IPv6 as a checkbox feature (they may not know what it does but they do notice that router/service A advertises support while router/service B does not) when buying routers and some other devices or services.<br><br>I'm curious to see whether or not Sony and Microsoft will choose to check the box or not. Considering how many router-related problems IPv6 would eliminate, it would be a shame if they decided to skip it completely. (As in neither at launch nor future patch.)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 21:56:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: IPv6 beta</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IPv6-beta-28064402</link>
<description><![CDATA[brad posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1526081" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1526081');">InvalidError</a>:</said><p>The point was that we should have been at this point at least half a decade ago. If consumer hardware and devices had started supporting IPv6 10 years ago, the transition would be practically over by now.<br><br>Today, many devices (tablets, smartphones, smart appliances, etc.) are still IPv4-only.<br> </p></div>Unfortunately so true.<br><br>Although that is true there is also a good percentage of tablets, smartphones and some appliances that do have IPv6 support as well especially if based on iOS, Android, Blackberry 10/Tablet OS's, Symbian, Windows Phone 8.<br><br>Skype not support v6 yet is a pain. That is one of the most visible services still holding out.<br><br>I am also interested to see how Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft handle rolling out v6 for their consoles and online gaming especially with Wii U being out and PS4 / Xbox (Durango) coming out soon.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:07:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: IPv6 beta</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IPv6-beta-28064375</link>
<description><![CDATA[brad posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>Carriers are basically the hold-up at this point. If Rogers started doing native IPV6 on their cable network tomorrow the usage of IPV6 on their network would probably hit double digit% on the first day I'd guess, just from people who have it enabled / supported by default and aren't getting addresses.<br><br>Given that -everyone- seems to peer through HE right now I'd guess that Rogers isn't sure that their peering can handle a wide deployment though. TekSavvy is maybe in the same boat.<br> </p></div>I am not sure about double digit % depending on how much of their coverage area is upgraded to enable v6 but they sure would have more than enough users out of the gate. Either way it still provides real users with a diverse collection of CPE in a real world environment via their network.<br><br>TSI is AFAIK running v6 on all of their transit links to Peer 1/Limelight/TATA and Hurricane so capacity is not an issue. The incumbent carriers have transit capacity now and if they needed to turn up sessions through existing links currently carrying v4 traffic only is fairly easy and straightforward. It's just rolling out service at the edge that is the real issue.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 19:56:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: IPv6 beta</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IPv6-beta-28064126</link>
<description><![CDATA[InvalidError posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/878297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=878297');">SimplePanda</a>:</said><p>At this point it's really not consumer manufacturers that are the hold up anymore. </p></div>The point was that we should have been at this point at least half a decade ago. If consumer hardware and devices had started supporting IPv6 10 years ago, the transition would be practically over by now.<br><br>Today, many devices (tablets, smartphones, smart appliances, etc.) are still IPv4-only.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:05:45 EDT</pubDate>
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