 siljalineI'm lovin' that double widePremium
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Re: End of Windows XP support means beginning of security... Unless the link indicates otherwise shearer  those would be firm dates at this time. But we all know of Win 98 but we won't go there. |
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Re: Nice.
It's the only lappy I own, so no cables like that lying around. Not worth buying one for it either as I got it for free many years ago. 
I use it to surf around in the living room when Nascar is on...the only thing I don't watch online on the main box.
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| said by caffeinator:...so no cables like that lying around.
Having been around and working with PC's since the 80's I have a large collection of adapters/boards/etc. Trouble is I can never find them... quickly anyway 
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| I do too, but for PC's only.
I know what ya mean about finding stuff as I "need" a RS-232 serial cable for an old UPS I got for $9 the other day, but can I find one?
Meh!  |
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Re: End of Windows XP support means beginning of security... My quad core processor on a 32bit board with 4 gigs of memory is quite happy with XP. I have not even attempted to "update" my XP from the Microsoft site in a year or so, and I remain totally free of viruses and malware. I know how to protect myself and would remain as careful even if I had the latest, greatest, MS OS.
I have a great many legacy apps that are not easily compatible with newer windows versions; and replacements for them are either non existent or expensive. Screw that!
Finally, I question the morality of people who disdain XP users simply because XP is an "old" OS. I'm old, myself, and functioning quite well, tyvm. |
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Re: Last time I moved I bought a whole bunch of those zip-lock freezer bags (large) and put all like-cables in one bag (e.g. serial in one, parallel in another, USB in another etc). I still have to find the bag I need but at least the cables I want are in there (maybe).
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| said by StuartMW:I still have to find the bag I need but at least the cables I want are in there (maybe).
Haha! Yeah, I know my serial cable is in the box with my old Cisco 678...wherever that may be. Too lazy to search ATM. 
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Re: End of Windows XP support means beginning of security... said by waldstein:My quad core processor on a 32bit board with 4 gigs of memory is quite happy with XP. I have not even attempted to "update" my XP from the Microsoft site in a year or so, and I remain totally free of viruses and malware. I know how to protect myself and would remain as careful even if I had the latest, greatest, MS OS. Yeah..I do however let my XP VM update (notify only).
Over 75 updates from a vanilla SP3 install. But, now I have a perfectly working and customized 2.5GB up-to-date XPpro exported appliance that's good to go.
said by waldstein:Finally, I question the morality of people who disdain XP users simply because XP is an "old" OS. I'm old, myself, and functioning quite well, tyvm.
Same here man.
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Re: Hmm, I should consider doing that with the WinME box I keep around just to run some software for my watch (old school Timex Datalink, oh yeah). I wonder if it will actually work in the VM.
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| said by sivran: I wonder if it will actually work in the VM.
Should do unless you need to use USB. That doesn't work in VPC 2007 but might in Win7 (?).
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Changing your browser agent won't make the page work any better with the non-proprietary IE coding.
Win 98se had many limitations which were fixed with future operating systems, it's how things go. Just because you're either too broke, or too attached to it is your problem. Nobody is supporting it anymore. You would be far better off using a used p4 computer somebody was throwing away with XP, or ubuntu than that machine.
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Re: End of Windows XP support means beginning of security... said by caffeinator:My old PIII Win2K box is as secure as it was in 2004, it's just not that useful anymore.
My old 2000's era apps and games run faster in a XP VM on my C2D than they could possibly do in hardware from their era. It's the best of both worlds.
Let the old dogs lie, I say.
I wouldn't be so sure about that, unless you haven't used Windows Update on that Win2K box since 2004... Microsoft stopped providing security patches for Win2K on July 13, 2010. Therefore any security holes after that date are wide open.
I agree though, running whatever old apps you need on a modern OS in a VM is much preferable over running an ancient OS.
said by waldstein:My quad core processor on a 32bit board with 4 gigs of memory is quite happy with XP. I have not even attempted to "update" my XP from the Microsoft site in a year or so, and I remain totally free of viruses and malware. I know how to protect myself and would remain as careful even if I had the latest, greatest, MS OS.
I have a great many legacy apps that are not easily compatible with newer windows versions; and replacements for them are either non existent or expensive. Screw that!
Finally, I question the morality of people who disdain XP users simply because XP is an "old" OS. I'm old, myself, and functioning quite well, tyvm.
Quad core doesn't mean anything, what is it a Core 2? Getting some age on it, though it would still be a nice CPU with a modern OS (Vista/7.) If you don't ever update XP, then you have nothing to worry about (except trojans, rootkits, malware, etc. ,) as MS will simply stop providing more updates for XP in two years from now. By then your machine will be pretty outdated, and the security holes in your OS will have grown immensely. If you're okay with "remaining careful" that's fine, but sooner or later you will have a script exploit or something come through (unless you hardly ever browse the Internet) and you will regret not ever updating Windows. Hell you could already have a rootkit and not even know it. Free country though, I just hope that your machine won't be a candidate as a DDoS zombie or a botnet.
As for "morality," it's an operating system, not a living being. I never will understand people becoming attached to unsentimental inanimate objects (or in this case, ancient software.) It's one thing to like retro stuff, but to think that you can go forever on an old system, and that companies like Microsoft should spend money on obsolete software, is beyond me. |
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| reply to daveinpoway
I wouldn't have a problem with this if Vista and 7 weren't steaming piles of shit. I ran 7 the other day for less than 30 minutes before I nuked it off my system. Leave it to M$ to fuck up something as simple as a 'search' function on the O/S, and make it way more complicated than it has to be. |
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| said by LondonOntGuy:I wouldn't have a problem with this if Vista and 7 weren't steaming piles of shit. I ran 7 the other day for less than 30 minutes before I nuked it off my system. Leave it to M$ to fuck up something as simple as a 'search' function on the O/S, and make it way more complicated than it has to be.
Are you serious, or just not well?
As a very devoted Win98SEWin2K/WinXP guy, I can say Win7 blows the clotted junk off of every M$ OS it predeceases.
Period.
If you do not have the hardware to run Win7 well. Then, you're more poor than a guy on SSI. Because I do thanks to CL and Ebay.
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Far as I know, that's the only way to search. That's what I hate mostly about 7. To me, it's clumsy and annoying. I like being able to pull up any folder and be able to search for a certain file in it or it's sub-folders. |
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| It isn't, but I'm not gonna confuse ya with DOS commands if you think that is the only way....C'mon....who actually searches often?
I know where my stuff is.
I have progs, pics, vids, downloads, etc all where I want them.
Do you not know how file folders work?
I have c:\tmp for downloads, c:\temp for extracted d/l's and chit i want to keep
Etc.
I make Windows do what *I* want.
Manage yer shit and you won't need to search. Define download dirs for yer browsers...know where files go. Do not DL to Desktop.
When I DO need to search for some obscure file, I use the BETTER search in Total Commander. It can search my entire C: in seconds.
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| Dude, I have 3 externals and my 1TB main HDD broken up into several smaller partitions. I know how to organize my shit, most of the time.
Maybe I'll just go to Ubuntu or some other variation of Linux after XP support is completely removed. |
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3 edits | I wasn't talking about partitioning or drives, but basic file folder usage and organization. I know where files are on 12yo HDD's or my Mom's computer over the phone...because I use a standard system that hasn't really changed since DOS 3.3.
I could boot up my Pentium 233MX from 1996 right now, and know where things are at. I have about 10 computers spanning over 30+ years of computing including a Macintosh LC 575 that works as good as the day it was made, I know nearly every file of mine on all of them.
I do hope you know GREP if you go *nix... |
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