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ekster
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Re: Game Rules Thread

Because drew wants you. Bad.



drew
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You love 16 year olds. Jim See Profile told me.



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Kristopher
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This?

Standard game rules apply.
No posting after night. You post at your own risk after Twilight. No editing posts.
Do not give people thumbs up.
You are only allowed private communication if stated in your PM.
One ghost post per person per game. While OT silliness is not discouraged, we don't want to ruin the gaming experience for everyone. If you do post, don’t give out game info in it, and don't do it during the night phase.
A cast Vote will automatically nullify the previous Vote.
It is at the Game Mods discretion whether or not a post after night by an active player should result in a Mod Kill. The same goes with Editing of Posts or Thumbs. Everything is situational.
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Archivis
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Editing and thumbs should stay banned. We're trying to avoid game breaks.



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said by Jim:

Why are you stirring shit up?

The real answer is so that people don't get upset if a mod kill is not enforced. I know it seems silly, but as a game mod, I've had to deal with angry folks via PM over shit like this before. I'm eliminating that by a slight adjustment.
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said by Kristopher:

This?

Standard game rules apply.
No posting after night. You post at your own risk after Twilight. No editing posts.
Do not give people thumbs up.
You are only allowed private communication if stated in your PM.
One ghost post per person per game. While OT silliness is not discouraged, we don't want to ruin the gaming experience for everyone. If you do post, don’t give out game info in it, and don't do it during the night phase.
If Archivis is playing, it's always a good idea to lynch him as soon as possible.
A cast Vote will automatically nullify the previous Vote.
It is at the Game Mods discretion whether or not a post after night by an active player should result in a Mod Kill. The same goes with Editing of Posts or Thumbs. Everything is situational.


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Jobbie
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I still believe that ghost posts should be less punished as long as they keep it low.

After night posts by active players should end a modkill, that is the nature of the game, this means a L-0 Twighlight vote count should be posted giving enough time for people to post their final ideas of the game..
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ekster
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Sorry. I only get angry if it's Arch.



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said by Jobbie:

I still believe that ghost posts should be less punished as long as they keep it low.

After night posts by active players should end a modkill, that is the nature of the game, this means a L-0 Twighlight vote count should be posted giving enough time for people to post their final ideas for the day.

Fixed me.
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umadbro?

Also, I try not to modkill folks unless they go out of their way to break a rule. I fully understand games that exceed a few hundred posts and you try to respond, only to find that it went to night.
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How about this. It opens up all rules to the discretion of the mod without being specific. An example. Someone accidentally gives a thumbs up to an off topic comment they found amusing. Or gives a thumbs up to the mod (I always allow this). Or an edit to a post that did not contain game info. While I can't think of really any edit post that wouldn't result in a mod kill, short of a new player mistake, the thumbs thing is possible. Besides, the thumbs rule is only enforceable through reporting by the player on the receiving end. This rule has always had a large loophole due to that alone. Thoughts?

Standard game rules apply.
No posting after night. You post at your own risk after Twilight.
No editing posts.
Do not give people thumbs up.
You are only allowed private communication if stated in your PM.
One ghost post per person per game. While OT silliness is not discouraged, we don't want to ruin the gaming experience for everyone. If you do post, don’t give out game info in it, and don't do it during the night phase.
A cast Vote will automatically nullify the previous Vote.
It is at the Game Mods discretion whether or not a broken rule should result in a Mod Kill. Everything is situational.
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That is why a L-0 vote count with a twighlight warning should be always when modding and give enough time for people to get their last posts before calling night phase.
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Jobbie
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Standard game rules apply.
No posting after night. You post at your own risk after Twilight.
No editing posts.
Do not give people thumbs up.
You are only allowed private communication if stated in your PM.
One ghost post per person per game. While OT silliness is not discouraged, we don't want to ruin the gaming experience for everyone. If you do post, don’t give out game info in it, and don't do it during the night phase.
A cast Vote will automatically nullify the previous Vote.
It is at the Game Mods discretion whether or not a broken rule should result in a Mod Kill

I just took the Everything is situational out of the last rule.
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ekster
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The last one sums it up pretty well, I find.

And Arch, always, bro.



Kristopher
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What he's referring to is a game that someone is out of for a day or so. They come back and start reading 150 posts. One hits home (an attack on them, or something they see), and they reply to it without reading up to the end to find out that Twilight OR Night has been called. We've been lenient with that in the past, as it's happened quite a few times in our larger format games.
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said by Jobbie:

Standard game rules apply.
No posting after night. You post at your own risk after Twilight.
No editing posts.
Do not give people thumbs up.
You are only allowed private communication if stated in your PM.
One ghost post per person per game. While OT silliness is not discouraged, we don't want to ruin the gaming experience for everyone. If you do post, don’t give out game info in it, and don't do it during the night phase.
A cast Vote will automatically nullify the previous Vote.
It is at the Game Mods discretion whether or not a broken rule should result in a Mod Kill

I just took the Everything is situational out of the last rule.

That works for me.
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drew
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Since ghost posts can't result in a modkill... what's the punishment?



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said by Kristopher:

What he's referring to is a game that someone is out of for a day or so. They come back and start reading 150 posts. One hits home (an attack on them, or something they see), and they reply to it without reading up to the end to find out that Twilight OR Night has been called. We've been lenient with that in the past, as it's happened quite a few times in our larger format games.

Yeah your last rule covers that point, it just needs to be noted as a "Mod Warning" or something for the offender after his/her post.
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said by drew:

Since ghost posts can't result in a modkill... what's the punishment?

A big FU next time the player tries to join a game?


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I believe abuse of any rule should get a warning and if necesary a ban from the games, which i dont think we would get to that point since most of the people do it within reason.
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said by ekster:

said by drew:

Since ghost posts can't result in a modkill... what's the punishment?

A big FU next time the player tries to join a game?

You said it better.
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Archivis
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If that doesn't work, Jobbie can just say, "Come on, guys."



Kristopher
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Answering both drew and commenting on Jobbie's post here:

As with a ghost post, a Mod Warning essentially does nothing. Everyone knows the nature of the rules and why they are there. It's been working fine, and this rule change isn't really even necessary, but I wanted to tweak it a little just to clarify for the protection of the mod if they do not perform a mod kill for a violation. We've never been able to punish ghosts, aside from the original "you will never play one of my games again" rule. Never saw that enforced. But, it's the real answer. If a player refuses to listen to a mod and posts as a ghost over and over and over, disrupting the game, they can be excluded from future games and reported to a real mod if they continue to harass the forums. I don't foresee that happening in the future, and would never dream any current players would do that, but if it would happen, that's the avenue that would be taken.

Warnings are a moot point. If a post after night is done, and it's an obvious mistake on the players part, I don't want to punish the player and their affiliation for it. That's the bottom line, I guess.
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I can provide a mp3 file with a recording during a LoL game for mod use.



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said by Jobbie:

I can provide a mp3 file with a recording during a LoL game for mod use.

Yes, we need this. Just so everyone can understand the pain and shame we feel when we hear it.
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said by Kristopher:

Warnings are a moot point. If a post after night is done, and it's an obvious mistake on the players part, I don't want to punish the player and their affiliation for it.

I agree with this.
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I like this.

At what point during those three words do you disconnect?



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I normally say it when I reconnect and I find everybody dead.



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I've adjusted my game rules as such:

Game Rules
Standard game rules apply.
No posting after night. You post at your own risk after Twilight.
No editing posts.
Do not give people thumbs up.
You are only allowed private communication if stated in your PM.
One ghost post per person per game. While OT silliness is not discouraged, we don't want to ruin the gaming experience for everyone. If you do post, don’t give out game info in it, and don't do it during the night phase.
A cast Vote will automatically nullify the previous Vote.
It is at the Game Mods discretion whether or not a broken rule should result in a Mod Kill.

Thanks for the input everyone.
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