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[General] 45 day notice to switch from dsl to uverse

I have never been though a forced "service upgrade", nor am I currently a customer. But they are pushing an "Internet only" version of U-verse. They are probably upgrading their end to IPDSLAM, which is not compatible with ADSL.

Here is a link to the U-verse forum, and here is their IPDSLAM FAQ.
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Thanks for the info... If this is the case then I guess this isn't a big deal

reply to kh2002
You will get the Internet only option on U-Verse. ATT has made this clear in the past. If your area is serviced by U-Verse - any form- you will be forced to upgrade or face service disconnection.

If your area has FTTN U-Verse you will get faster speeds than the IPDSL but will require a totally new modem.

This is being done to ALL aDSL customers on the ATT network. This is also a great way of them getting rid of any CLECs and resellers on their network as once you are upgraded; you basically can NOT get moved back to the old network.

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To clarify ALL ATT DSL customers will eventually be moved over to U-verse. All other customers that are served from RT's/CEV's from other CLECS will still be able to use the old network for the time being. From what upper has said after 2012 no new CLEC orders will be allowed for the legacy stuff that are on RT/CEV's. If you are CO based you'll be able to keep your legacy circuit obviously because we dont own that equipment.

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The top speed of the ATT uverse offering at my location is half what I am getting via aDSL through the CO. Should I move service to a CLEC now to lock in current speeds and avoid being forced to a lower speed uverse requiring a modem upgrade?

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Another member posted a copy of a att letter with this info

reply to kh2002
While I understand the current notice seems to be limited to residential DSL customers, does anyone know if business DSL customers are going to be forced to migrate?

Business customers will likely not be forced, because U-verse causes too many problems with VOIP phone systems. It's also basically impossible to use bridging with U-verse hardware.

In fact, right now, businesses can get DSL in U-verse areas simply by claiming that they need "bridge mode" on their router. AT&T will override the lockout for ordering DSL service and allow you to get it, even if you are in a U-verse area.

There is a "modem only" option with U-Verse (assuming you have either ADSL2+ or VDSL2 single pair U-Verse). The "modem only" option supports Internet Only, and only dynamic IPs. It does not support IPTV TV service nor VoIP Phone service

For ADSL2+ IPDSLAM U-Verse, there is the black model Motorola 2210 (not the gray model).

For VDSL2 FTTN U-Verse, this is the dark blue model Motorola 2310

The Motorola 2210/2310 technically do not have a true "bridge mode" -- but they have an "IP Pass-through" mode which has the modem pass the public IP directly to a 3rd party router or other device connected to the modem

If you have BPON FTTP U-Verse or VDSL2 FTTN Pair Bonded U-Verse, there are no "modem only" options available. BPON FTTP must use either a rented 2Wire/Pace 3800/3801 Gateway (modem/router), and VDSL2 FTTN Pair Bonded must use the rented i3812 iNID Gateway system

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Does the AT&T Uverse changeover from DSL mean hardline phones will not be landline anymore.

Another way to say that.. Landline phones are a physical direct connection (nearly) to other landline phones.

There's no latency (delay)
There's no noise (to speak of).
There's a quality to the connection which could be called 'intimate'.

An aunt has Uverse in the Central Valley CA and her, what looks like a landline, phone has a distinct delay similar to cell phones.

If you've changed over from DSL to Uverse could you comment on
any difference in your phone line quality or latency delay.

Thanks!

Depends if you stay with POTS or if you switch to U-Verse VoIP

U-Verse Internet and/or U-Verse TV does NOT require a switch to U-Voice VoIP.

U-Verse ADSL2+, VDSL2, and BPON all work fine line shared with POTS

AT&T didn't give me much good information.
What I did get was a similar answer saying that if staying with POTS
my phone would be 'the same'.

My current charges are $28 for basic phone and $40 for DSL (6mb).

That's 'too much' especially in this economy and compared to what we paid
in 2009 and 2010 (and before) for the same thing.

The best choice, for me, seems to be to go to 12 mo guaranteed pricing from
Sonic for total of $40 for phone and 6mb DSL. With no caps also.

After 12 months maybe AT&T will rethink what they're charging people.