Recovery Fund

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dennismurphy Put me on hold? I'll put YOU on hold Premium join:2002-11-19 Parsippany, NJ	Recovery Fund Justin - how about setting up a Recovery Fund to help offset the massive expense of this ordeal? I'd certainly throw some bucks in - this site is worth so much more to me than the $10 I paid eons ago .... Got a Paypal address?
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HiVolt Premium join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON kudos:18	Agreed, for some of us its been 10+ years here and it was odd being away for this long. I'd pitch in. -- BUCK FELL ,,!,,('-'),,!,,
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GlennAllen Sunny with highs in the 80s join:2002-11-17 Richmond, VA	reply to dennismurphy I'd say to send the bill to whoever was supposed to be providing [uninterruptible] backup power.
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Spike Premium join:2008-05-16 Toronto, ON 2 edits	reply to GlennAllen Re: Recovery Fund said by GlennAllen: I'd say to send the bill to whoever was supposed to be providing [uninterruptible] backup power. Any piece of equipment can fail, if you're not prepared to handle it then its not the datacenters fault... Being prepared is the key. In our case, its a 16 slot LTO3 changer with daily mysql dumps.
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usa2k Blessed Premium,MVM join:2003-01-26 Redford, MI kudos:3 Reviews: ·WOW Internet and.. ·VOIPo	reply to dennismurphy said by dennismurphy: Justin - how about setting up a Recovery Fund to help offset the massive expense of this ordeal? I'd certainly throw some bucks in - this site is worth so much more to me than the $10 I paid eons ago .... Got a Paypal address? Agreed. $10 or $20 from half the membership I bet would go a long way! What do you think Justin? -- Jim, VoIP 12/2002, VOIPo 2/2007 FAH-Tool~Pets~Join Artist-247
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garys_2k Premium join:2004-05-07 Farmington, MI	reply to dennismurphy Works for me, sure.
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GlennAllen Sunny with highs in the 80s join:2002-11-17 Richmond, VA	reply to Spike Well, yeah--that's my point. When those you pay for "preparedness" don't deliver on what you're paying them for, it is their fault.
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graniterock join:2003-03-14 London, ON Reviews: ·WIND Mobile ·TekSavvy Cable ·TekSavvy DSL	reply to usa2k said by usa2k: Agreed. $10 or $20 from half the membership I bet would go a long way! What do you think Justin? I remember correctly I think he said he had 1 000 000 registrations of whiche 10% were active members? 1 000 000 * .1 / 2 * $10 = $500 000 But yeah... I would contribute to the virtual hat. If not perhaps once the site is running again buying some tool points or upgrading to premium might be the best way to support the site.
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Arne Bolen Happy Anveo customer Premium join:2009-06-21 Planet Earth kudos:4	reply to dennismurphy I suggest Justin adds the Flattr crowd funding system to the DSLR site. -- Voip News
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snappakazoo Inconceivable join:2000-09-10 Wyckoff, NJ	reply to dennismurphy Add me to the list of minimally active users willing to donate. -- Let me 'splain. [pause] No, there is too much. Let me sum up.
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iknow_t join:2012-05-03	reply to dennismurphy how about someone with experience with an MD 3000 help justin out recovering the good copy of the site, it was on a raid 10 setup.. no one responded so far, so he had to spend thousands of dollars to get what he got so far, one would think someone would have experience with this setup..
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JJJohnson join:2001-08-25 Fort Collins, CO	reply to dennismurphy I'll help him find his daily backup of the database. Does he remember approximately where he last saw it?
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iknow_t join:2012-05-03	reply to Spike said by Spike: said by GlennAllen: I'd say to send the bill to whoever was supposed to be providing [uninterruptible] backup power. Any piece of equipment can fail, if you're not prepared to handle it then its not the datacenters fault... Being prepared is the key. In our case, its a 16 slot LTO3 changer with daily mysql dumps. actually, this is the THIRD time they lost all power because the battery for the generator failed. the other TWO times the servers were brought back online quickly. this time, there was corruption in the SQL database.. »www.webhostingtalk.com/showthrea···t=614624 this link is one of them, there is another, too. the fault lies with the datacenter for not maintaining the batteries properly.
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JJJohnson join:2001-08-25 Fort Collins, CO	said by iknow_t: actually, this is the THIRD time they lost all power because the battery for the generator failed. the other TWO times the servers were brought back online quickly. this time, there was corruption in the SQL database. »www.webhostingtalk.com/showthrea···t=614624 this link is one of them, there is another, too. the fault lies with the datacenter for not maintaining the batteries properly. Fool me once, shame on you... Should have been out of there within days after the second incident.
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TamaraB Question The Current Paradigm Premium join:2000-11-08 Da Bronx Reviews: ·Optimum Online ·Clearwire Wireless	reply to GlennAllen said by GlennAllen: I'd say to send the bill to whoever was supposed to be providing [uninterruptible] backup power. When I co-located servers at data centers, I always installed my own UPS'. If power to my equipment failed, indicating something really really bad has happened, my UPS would kick in and trigger an immediate shutdown, then wait cold for me to physically bring them back up. This saved my butt twice when the rack my servers were in was cut off from AC power; once due to an electrician shorting out a cable under the floor, and another time when some datacenter tech tripped the wrong breaker. Neither case involved a general datacenter power fail. Bottom line; the server owner is ultimately responsible for the safety of the co-located hardware. If your servers are unnaware of an imminent power failure, you are SOL! Bob -- Would you ever go over to Czechoslovakia, and marry me daughter for me?"
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GlennAllen Sunny with highs in the 80s join:2002-11-17 Richmond, VA	Then if your UPS' failed, it would be the fault of the UPS manufacturer--which would invoke their warranty I presume (unless, of course, it/they failed due to your own failure to replace an old battery). My point, however, is still the same: if you're paying someone to provide such uninterruptible backup power, and that someone fails to provide such power when it becomes needed, then--bottom lilne--it's that someone's fault for not providing that power as contracted.
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BronsCon join:2003-10-24 Concord, CA	reply to dennismurphy I'm pretty broke right now, in the middle of moving, but I'd chip in $5. More after I'm done unpacking boxes, if the fund is still open.
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TamaraB Question The Current Paradigm Premium join:2000-11-08 Da Bronx Reviews: ·Optimum Online ·Clearwire Wireless	reply to GlennAllen said by GlennAllen: .... if that someone fails to provide such power when it becomes needed, then--bottom lilne--it's that someone's fault for not providing that power as contracted. Fault is irrelevant, as is blame. Every colo contract I have ever seen absolves the colo facility of any damages if they fail to live up to anything. If BBR had a few UPS' on their rack, the cost would be nothing compared to what is now being incurred. I doubt Nac.net can be sued for the damage, they, I am sure, have their asses covered. Bob -- Would you ever go over to Czechoslovakia, and marry me daughter for me?"
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GlennAllen Sunny with highs in the 80s join:2002-11-17 Richmond, VA	You're just making the assumption that BBR didn't contract with anyone to provide uninterruptible backup power. I make no such assumption, so I still stand by my original statement.
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