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jackie999

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Acanac IPTV hopefully by July

While DSLr was gone, Paul over in the Acanac community forums announced their intention to introduce IPTV. They are/were looking for signatures/comments to file with the CRTC.

What little I know of it,
You must be a customer of Acanac to subscribe
It will even be available to 6Mbps DSL(if that's all you have)
STB's will be wifi enabled but no HDD (price approx $50)
They're hoping to be ready in July

Anyway - always good to see healthy competition

Lynn, feel free to correct me if I've got something wrong....

And where the heck is the Acanac adhoc forums here...?


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said by jackie999:

And where the heck is the Acanac adhoc forums here...?

»Acanac


BliZZardX
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reply to jackie999
What's the channel line up?


jackie999

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I'll just quote his response when asked the same question in the other forums,

quote:
We are going to be extremely aggressive with our TV offerings. I wont list any specific pricing details just yet in case they are used against us during the upcoming CRTC hearings.

As for launch dates I am hoping for sometime in July.


BliZZardX
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Are they looking for feedback? Is Acanac customer exclusivity temporary? (I'm not switching ISPs just for TV...)

Are they selling packages?

All I am looking for is a la carte HD news, sports and foreign language channels.


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said by BliZZardX:

Are they selling packages?

All I am looking for is a la carte HD news, sports and foreign language channels.

They'll probably have to have a base package like cable and satellite providers are required to have - probably falling under the cable variation on the rules (or something similar), rather than the satellite ones.


Rickkins

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reply to jackie999
Should be an interesting summer for tv viewers, as Blusky is supposed to come online as well.

»www.bluskyhdtv.ca/index.html


jackie999

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reply to BliZZardX
I think a la carte is what everyone wants - there were some discussions over on the other forum about it - but until they launch it's just a guessing game. As far as I know it's only for their own subscribers.
I was mainly just alerting peeps that it may become available..something to look forward to! I'll try and post the link here, maybe it'll stick,
»community.acanac.com/acanac/view···f14b08a6
any questions you might have, have likely been asked and answered there.

As for switching providers just for TV - I would - I don't care who I'm with..who ever has the best price has my business.


jackie999

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reply to Rickkins
Looks interesting Rickkins - HDTV via satellite...I have a few dishes on my house all ready to aim



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I'm still waiting for somebody to put the "I" in "IPTV". You know, an Internet Protocol TeleVision service that I can subscribe to over the Internet. It's great that companies like Acanac and Colba are offering IPTV (power to 'em), but none of these services are actually delivered over the Internet.
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said by Guspaz:

I'm still waiting for somebody to put the "I" in "IPTV". You know, an Internet Protocol TeleVision service that I can subscribe to over the Internet. It's great that companies like Acanac and Colba are offering IPTV (power to 'em), but none of these services are actually delivered over the Internet.

A market that open would be neat. But the unicast/multicast issue would put the " true internet" operator at a disadvantage vs. the private net operator. Will HD be economically feasible at $22/mbps of AHSSPI?

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said by freejazz_RdJ:

Will HD be economically feasible at $22/mbps of AHSSPI?

Nothing is economical at that price.

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reply to Guspaz
What Paul from Acanac said is that the CRTC do not allows them to offer TV on an open network such as the internet so they can only offer it to their custommers.
It's not like Colba, they do not control the DSLAM. So I don't think they can multicast.
Yes, it will be at $22000/Gbps. That's why they will only offer a maximum bitrate of 4 Mbps (maybe more for paid movies). So it will be low HD quality, not unlike netflix.



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said by zorxd:

So it will be low HD quality, not unlike netflix.

Netflix has some higher quality streams... I'm assuming the bandwith will be limited from Acanac's side?
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zorxd

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All digital TV provider must do some form of transcoding and they have to choose a bitrate. Acanac chose 4 Mbps.



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4 megs? Not even worth it especially with no guarantee of link quality.



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Yeah that's pretty weak...

More information here:

»hometheater.about.com/od/interne···Vudu.htm

said by about.com :
As a guideline, Swasey suggested the following minimum internet speeds for Netflix:

1 Mb/s for viewing on a laptop computer

2 Mb/s for viewing standard definition video on a TV

4 Mb/s for viewing High Definition video

5 Mb/s or more for the best audio and video experience

(snip)

Vudu Suggested Streaming Speed:

(snip)
1.0 - 2.3 Mb/s for SD — Standard definition video

2.3 Mb/s - 4.5 Mbs for HD — High definition 720p resolution video

4.5 Mb/s - 9 Mb/s for HDX — Full high definition 1080p resolution video and high definition audio

Over 9 Mb/s for 3-D HD movies

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said by jackie999:

I think a la carte is what everyone wants

And not that fake a la carte Rogers trialed in london... Have a base package of just the local networks (CTV, Global, CBC, maybe the weather network, CTV2, TVO, SRC) for something like $10 and charge $2 a channel on top or $5 for "Premium" channels like the movie network.

And DON'T restrict it to Acanac customers... I'm not downgrading my internet for their TV service...


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said by mlerner:

4 megs? Not even worth it especially with no guarantee of link quality.

In the next few weeks I will post some small videos showing-casing the quality. At 4Mbps I personally find it indistinguishable from Bell's or Rogers HD.

As for the guaranteed link quality it's a trade off. We chose to go with HLS for the very reason of real time bit-rate changes. This type of technology will more or less eliminate buffering. We have been running tests for a few months now and I have yet to see a buffering type situation in my regular day to day internet usage.

We have also had discussions on implementing QOS, however I am personally against taking this type of approach. It's a slippery slope when one starts to prioritize traffic. It would also make me a big time
hypocrite.


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reply to BGB

said by BGB:

said by jackie999:

I think a la carte is what everyone wants

And not that fake a la carte Rogers trialed in london... Have a base package of just the local networks (CTV, Global, CBC, maybe the weather network, CTV2, TVO, SRC) for something like $10 and charge $2 a channel on top or $5 for "Premium" channels like the movie network.

And DON'T restrict it to Acanac customers... I'm not downgrading my internet for their TV service...

When ever possible we will allow a la carte plans. As for the restrictions on the Acanac and Distributel network it's not our choice. Under the current BDU framework the service has to be offered under a closed network.
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