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Martin
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join:2005-05-05
@bell.ca
kudos:3

Changement important Bell Fibe Internet

Dès le 6 mai prochain, il y aura une refonte des forfaits Bell Internet, dorénavant les services Internet Fibe sur FTTH offriront la même vitesse autant en download qu'en upload sauf pour Fibe 5.

Il y aura Fibe 5/1 avec 15Gb de bande passante, Fibe 15/15 avec 75Gb, Fibe 25/25 avec 125Gb, Fibe 50/50 250Gb et Fibe 175/175 300Gb.

Sur cuivre, ce sera Bell Internet 5 donc jusqu'à 5/800 avec 15Gb pour les clients qui ne peuvent se qualifier pour Fibe5 sinon il y aura Fibe 5/1 15Gb, 15/10 75Gb et 25/10 125Gb.



Frank_IT
Premium
join:2003-11-01
Montreal

Salut,

est ce que les clients existant seront ajuste? (jai 50/10 la..)



Martin
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join:2005-05-05
@bell.ca
kudos:3
reply to Martin

Oui tous les clients actuels auront été migré dans les deux semaines suivant le 6 mai prochain.



BliZZardX
Premium
join:2002-08-18
Toronto, ON

3 edits

Thank you Martin. Is the 7Mbps upload add-on for Fibe 7/10/12/16 (in ON/QC) being upgraded to 10Mbps? Will the add-on system still exist or will new plans include faster upload for everyone except the lowest packages?


glussier

join:2002-11-12
Montreal, QC
reply to Martin

Est-ce que c'est seulement pour la ville de Québec, ou Montréal pourra en profiter?



Martin
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@bell.ca
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1 edit
reply to Martin

D'après les infos que nous avons eu, ce sera pour tout le territoire déservie par Bell Canada incluant le Québec et l'Ontario.

Il y aura plus de Fibe 6, 7, 10, 12 ou 16, ils sont supprimé et remplacé par Fibe 5 et 15, pour ceux déjà abonné à 6, 7, 10, 12 ou 16, je crois qu'ils pourront le conserver mais ne profiteront pas de l'upgrade de l'upload, ceux qui voudront plus, ils devront changer leur forfait pour Fibe 5 ou 15.

Et les plans Essentiel et Essentiel+ sont aussi remplacé par Bell Internet 5.



Frank_IT
Premium
join:2003-11-01
Montreal
reply to Martin

Martin... le 50/50.. est-ce qu'on va garder le meme prix que 50/10 ?


SLAMtech

join:2009-12-03
kudos:1
reply to BliZZardX

The theme is good/better/best so anyone who can receive better or above will qualify for up to 10 Mb/s upload.

Although if you are currently on a plan and are getting fibe 16/12/10 then you will most likely need to call in as the 2wire is only rated as high as adsl2+ and a sager is required.

Fibe 175/175 is now available to all ontarions over FTTH and all FTTH speeds are synchronous now.

Well official changes aren't out yet but will be soon.


fernboy61_t

join:2012-05-04
Quebec, QC
reply to Martin

Martin,

Est ce que le rabais de 40$/mois sur le Fibe 50 va toujours s'appliquer?

Si oui, c'est vraiment une bonne décision. Le 250GB de cap est interessant.


zorxd

join:2010-02-05
Quebec, QC
Reviews:
·Acanac

1 edit
reply to Martin

ça se peut pas il me semble... pour faire du 15/10 ça prend du VDSL2

Qu'est-ce qu'ils vont faire avec ceux qui n'ont que l'ADSL2+ de disponible? Du 15/1?

Pour le reste, j'attends de voir pour le croire. Du 50/50 250 Go pour 40$? Avec Bell?



BliZZardX
Premium
join:2002-08-18
Toronto, ON
reply to Martin

That's good they are reducing the packages, there were too many before

So what are the prices for Fibe 5 and Fibe 15, will they be the same cost in both provinces?



XanderLo

join:2002-06-19
Boucherville, QC
reply to Martin

Bonjour,

Je ne veux pas faire de thread hijacking, mais je suis jaloux de ces changements. Voici les stats actuelles de ma ligne via le 2Wire unlocked : »www.dropbox.com/s/rhnxaa4id9d2rd···tats.png

Ça me semble pas excellent mais je crois que ça s'est amélioré depuis que des techniciens Bell (ExpertTech) ont fait des travaux sur ma rue. Selon le site de Bell, FibeTV devrait être disponible d'ici 1 mois. J'ai parlé aux field techs directement et ils m'ont dit que je devrais avoir un attainable rate de 40mbps quand ça sera terminé dans le quartier. Ils ont parlé de me donner 2 pairs à la place d'une (fils ;p).

Avec les stats ci-dessus, pensez-vous qu'ils pourraient au moins me mettre sur le "vrai" profile Fibe 16? (19.5mbps) ?

Merci!
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BliZZardX
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Toronto, ON
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Bell want to reserve about 30Mbps per pair for IPTV (7Mbps x 3 HDTVs, 3Mbps x 3 SDTVs), the left over bandwidth is scraps for Internet service.

Bell don't offer Fibe TV unless your loop length is less than 800 meters. So in short, yes you can get Fibe 16 (Fibe 15 now), you should be able to get Fibe 25 too.

If he is telling your attainable is 40Mbps, you will not qualify for Fibe TV... however you'll still be able to get up to 40Mbps internet ONLY (no IPTV).

They don't do pair bonding yet either, so not sure why he mentioned it. But everybody should have copper 2 pairs coming to their home at minimum, at least it's been this way for a long time.


zorxd

join:2010-02-05
Quebec, QC
reply to XanderLo

T'es en ADSL2+
Une fois en VDSL2 (avec un autre modem), c'est pas mal sûr que tu vas pouvoir faire 19.5 Mbps



XanderLo

join:2002-06-19
Boucherville, QC
reply to BliZZardX

said by BliZZardX:

Bell want to reserve about 30Mbps per pair for IPTV (7Mbit x 3 HDTVs, 3Mbit x 3 SDTVs), the left over bandwidth is scraps for Internet service.

Bell don't offer Fibe TV unless your loop length is less than 800 meters. So in short, yes you can get Fibe 16 (Fibe 15 now), you should be able to get Fibe 25 too.

If he is telling your attainable is 40Mbps, you will not qualify for Fibe TV...

They don't do pair bonding yet either, so not sure why he mentioned it. But everybody should have copper 2 pairs coming to their home at minimum, at least it's been this way for a long time.

Hello,

He was not talking about my home specifically but the neighborhood after they'd be done with the network reconditioning, about the attainable 40mbps. He was not being very specific.

About the pair thing, he said something like my home being more than 600m away from the node (700-800m I think) so I'd be using an additional pair for increased bandwidth, and that I'd need to call relatively fast once FibeTV is available or it might get sold out (because they can't have all the neighbourhood on 2 pairs). Does that make sense?

So am I correct in assuming that you checked my posted line stats and you judge that it could handle 19.5mbps sync (as opposed to the actual 14mbps) ?

Thanks!
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XanderLo

join:2002-06-19
Boucherville, QC
reply to zorxd

said by zorxd:

T'es en ADSL2+
Une fois en VDSL2 (avec un autre modem), c'est pas mal sûr que tu vas pouvoir faire 19.5 Mbps

Avec VDSL2, j'aimerais bien avoir le 25/10 mais bon...

Je demande à propos du 19.5mbps parce que j'ai présentement Fibe 16 et j'aimerais bien avoir ce dont je paie pour. Donc, en attendant FibeTV (VDSL2), je demande votre avis pour savoir si je devrais pousser pour que Bell change mon profil à 19mbps ou si c'est inutile avec ces stats?

Merci.
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zorxd

join:2010-02-05
Quebec, QC

Selon moi c'est inutile. Tu devrais te partir un fil sur le sujet si tu veux en discuter plus amplement.



BliZZardX
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join:2002-08-18
Toronto, ON
Reviews:
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reply to XanderLo

You can't make a comparison with ADSL2+ line stats, often Fibe will be activated on a newly installed separate remote closer to your home. Basically in between every ADSL2+ remote, they need to stick a new VDSL2 remote. They have to half the distance.


zorxd

join:2010-02-05
Quebec, QC

yeah but I don't think anyone with VDSL2 can't get 19.5 Mbps down. Bell will tell you ou can't get VDSL2 if you are too far.



XanderLo

join:2002-06-19
Boucherville, QC
reply to Martin

Yes I understand that. My main question was if the line stats posted previously would allow 19.5mbps ADSL2+ sync (since my profile was set to 14mbps months ago before the changes).

Thanks.
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zorxd

join:2010-02-05
Quebec, QC

as I said I don't think so


SLAMtech

join:2009-12-03
kudos:1
reply to Martin

Most of the time adsl2+ and vdsl2 are run from the exact same equipment in the field, all that is done is the port gets changed from one setting to the next. Unless fed from a CO then the equipment may change.

Anything up to 19 Mb/s down that bell offers is set to adsl2+ with 1 Mb/s up. Anything with higher upload is set to vdsl2.

Distance is always key and I can guarantee that with just 3 internet packages available that some people will be forced to pay for the 15/10 package but is just far enough that they wont get full downlaod and uplaod but just close enough there line can handle more than 5.

If you are fortunate to have FTTH then you don't ever need to worry about a damn thing...... bastards


Anon
reply to zorxd

Est-ce normal que les agents de Bell ne soient pas encore au courant de ce changement ?



Frank_IT
Premium
join:2003-11-01
Montreal

said by :

Est-ce normal que les agents de Bell ne soient pas encore au courant de ce changement ?

oui parce que ce n'est pas encore offert.


XanderLo

join:2002-06-19
Boucherville, QC
reply to SLAMtech

said by SLAMtech:

Most of the time adsl2+ and vdsl2 are run from the exact same equipment in the field, all that is done is the port gets changed from one setting to the next. Unless fed from a CO then the equipment may change.

Anything up to 19 Mb/s down that bell offers is set to adsl2+ with 1 Mb/s up. Anything with higher upload is set to vdsl2.

Distance is always key and I can guarantee that with just 3 internet packages available that some people will be forced to pay for the 15/10 package but is just far enough that they wont get full downlaod and uplaod but just close enough there line can handle more than 5.

If you are fortunate to have FTTH then you don't ever need to worry about a damn thing...... bastards

I totally agree with you. I think that will only cause more frustration for Bell Internet customers. The Bell Internet network is very small and even people in cities directly neighbour to Montreal (like me) got bad signal. Bell is working to improve the network but it's a work in progress... for how many years or decades?

trep_t

join:2012-05-04
reply to Martin

Pour les prix est-ce qu'ils vont changer?



Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to Martin

If wholesale customers also get automatically upgraded from 25/7 to 25/10... I will probably cancel my second 25/7 line :P

It's fun bonding 2x 25/7 into a single 50/14, but it costs a fortune and I think that 10 megs of upstream is kind of a magic number...
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Martin
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join:2005-05-05
@bell.ca
kudos:3

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reply to Martin

Ceux qui ont déjà le rabais de 40$ sur le Fibe50/10 vont le conserver et profiteront du 50/50. Pour les nouveaux abonnés qui n'ont toujours pas passé leur commande du Fibe50 avec 40$ de rabais avec un trio Internet, télé et téléphonie, la promo du 40$ sera remplacé par une autre promo un peu moins généreuse.


zorxd

join:2010-02-05
Quebec, QC
Reviews:
·Acanac

said by Martin:

Ceux qui ont déjà le rabais de 40$ sur le Fibe50/10 vont le conserver et profiteront du 50/50 250GB.

Wow, c'est presque trop beau pour le croire


Martin
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join:2005-05-05
@bell.ca
kudos:3
reply to Martin

Tous les clients actuels abonné à Fibe50 et 175 seront mis à jour gratuitement au cours des deux prochaines semaines sans aucun frais supplémentaire tout en conservant leur rabais.