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Re: Standard Broadband

reply to Immortal
Does anyone know who they peer with? I rather not get stuck with a ISP who only has one transit provider with horrible routing.

If anyone on the service can run a traceroute to the following addresses it would be appreciated.

voip.freephoneline.ca
toronto.voip.ms

Thanks

I have them installed at my home in Milton, in speaking to them they have three large upstream providers and also peer with a number of other networks via some private peering arrangements. From what I can tell they peer with Cogent, NAC, and Bell.

Network seems solid had it installed now for a few weeks, they also have a number of licensed backhaul links between their sites.

reply to Immortal
I'm not too sure if I am allowed to post this but there is a deal right here. »takeitandgo.ca/localdeals/show/M···and-deal

I purchased, and will pay $199 for the install. I will test it out and let everyone know when it is installed. 15/1.5 Mbps Unlimited Usage for $44 dollars/month isn't too bad I guess.

reply to Immortal
So I just got my service installed and I must say I'm impressed!

Installed came on time and installed the fixed wireless device.

It looks like this installed - you can barely see it from the street/sidewalk.

Tracing route to google.ca [74.125.226.63]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  DD-WRT [192.168.1.1]
  2     3 ms     6 ms     4 ms  199.115.90-1.ip.mltn.standardbroadband.ca [199.1
15.90.1]
  3    24 ms     6 ms     8 ms  10.2.98.1
  4    14 ms     8 ms     8 ms  64.250.95.217
  5    12 ms    27 ms    21 ms  ge0-0-427.tor.toron02core1.iasl.com [206.210.107
.193]
  6    12 ms    23 ms    16 ms  206.210.108.242
  7    15 ms    12 ms    14 ms  gw-google.torontointernetxchange.net [206.108.34
.6]
  8    24 ms    18 ms    14 ms  216.239.47.114
  9    21 ms    13 ms    14 ms  64.233.175.132
 10     *       20 ms    17 ms  yyz06s06-in-f31.1e100.net [74.125.226.63]
Trace complete.
 

Tracing route to dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  DD-WRT [192.168.1.1]
  2     3 ms    23 ms    14 ms  199.115.90-1.ip.mltn.standardbroadband.ca [199.1
15.90.1]
  3     7 ms    23 ms     6 ms  10.2.98.1
  4     8 ms     8 ms     8 ms  64.250.95.217
  5    27 ms    14 ms    25 ms  ge0-0-427.tor.toron02core1.iasl.com [206.210.107
.193]
  6    24 ms    21 ms    59 ms  69.77.176.21
  7    17 ms    13 ms    12 ms  66.199.34.62
  8    15 ms    22 ms    27 ms  66.199.39.106
  9    66 ms    45 ms    57 ms  gw-nac.torontointernetxchange.net [206.108.34.38
]
 10    35 ms    66 ms    41 ms  0.e1-4.tbr1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.122]
 11    40 ms    48 ms    29 ms  vlan804.esd1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.2]
 12    29 ms    39 ms    27 ms  www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]
 
Trace complete.
 

Peering and latency looks good. Nice.

I've been playing with the internet connection I see that they peer with

TORIX
Cogent
Cogeco Data Services

reply to Immortal
How its their customer service and support and reliability?

reply to Immortal
I just signed up, installation on Monday. It looks very good, and I haven't seen anything in this forum yet that makes me think it was a bad idea I am looking forward to getting off cable

How'd the install go? And how is the service?

reply to Immortal
Bah, tried for this but they couldn't get a signal at my place . Had my hopes up as I'm in an internet dead zone in Halton Hills :(:(

reply to Immortal
Has anyone on their end bothered to proof the site? Grammar, spelling is horrendous

»standardbroadbandhome.ca/service···tinstall

"The typical subscriber unit (Fig 1.) is 9.5 inches in diameter, 2 inches think and weighs less than 2lbs."

"you can see what a typical installation looks like, the antenna is kept close to the roof so that it is out of site as much as possible from the ground. "

"The installation team will test the service to ensure that the service is working in your home before they leave. "

"Our system does require that you Line-Of-Site to one of our broadcast towers," - Don't even know where to begin with this one.

*Sigh*

reply to Immortal
I think that you will find these guys will not be in business to long. I have done some research on the radios they are using and have been informed that they are not licensed to be used in Canada. I would stay away from this company.

From what I see they have FCC approval but not Industry Canada. It is easy to check. A quick call to Industry Canada will confirm it.

Well it is a crime to use an unapproved radio, Especialy with an unapproved antenna combonation.

If the radio's they are using have no second harmonic (Or third or fourth if they are really poorly designed I doubt industry canada will even care)

That said point to multipoint 5ghz with indoor unapproved radio's could be really deadly to licensed backhauls and in the greater toronto area on the effect of this would be much higher.

Licensed equipment is normally designed to have no interference what so ever.

As a second harmonic for a 5ghz band router would be in 10.4-12ghz range.

A second harmonic is a second signal that is emitted at twice the desired frequency poorer radio's trash the whole band on the way up harmonics with sometimes up to 4 of these.

The FCC will sometimes approve devices that emit these if they have low gain precisely tuned antennas that do not irradiate the second harmonic with much power for indoor use only.

The issue of second harmonics is why you cannot legally attach higher gain antenna's to any router that has not been approved with higher gain antennas.

Unless someone is interfering with a protected microwave frequency, a radio repeater or a radio station I doubt it would be worth the time and man power to track it down.

That all said if they are using a radio with a second harmonic emission in the states I think the fine is in the tune of $5000 for each day it was in operation to cover the cost of tracking it down the out of band emissions and the damages done to the company’s it was interfering with. Canada probably has similar laws.

If you don't mind me asking what radio's are they using and what is the fcc id ?.

I don't know the details, but it looks like they're using mikrotik hardware with a 3.6GHz Wimax radio, and I'd guess that it might be 802.11y-related rather than 802.16. I'd love to know the exact hardware and the FCC ID, too.

Though like I said, getting Industry Canada certification is a heck of a lot easier than FCC, at least based on what I've heard from people in that line of work.

reply to mlerner

It's not the CRTC's decision, Industry Canada manages the spectrum and the ones with the deepest pockets can do what they want with it.