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Re: High Speed Rail Environmental Plan Approved

After billions ($3B+) of federal stimulus dollars pledged to build a new rail line, the project is plagued with problems. This will ultimately cost $118 Billion (gotta watch):

»cnn.com/video/?/video/be ··· rail.cnn

Perspective $118 Billion = 559,000,000 (yep, 559 Million) round trip advance purchase air fares between Los Angeles and San Francisco. Basically enough to pay for round trip air fares 4 times a year for every man, woman, and child in the State of California for the next 6 years.

No_Strings

join:2001-11-22
The OC

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Kill it now.

aztecnology
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Quite the boondoggle...

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Carmichael, CA

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California high-speed rail board votes to hire new CEO.

Read more here: »www.sacbee.com/2012/05/3 ··· link=cpy

It looks like it's chugging along......

Boricua
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said by No_Strings:

A horrible waste of money we don't have, to build an outmoded thing we don't need. The estimates are ballooning already and they haven't moved a single shovel of dirt.

This.

I think if they would've thought this out back in the 70s or maybe 80s, then they wouldn't be having all these problems with critics. With budget deficit pegged at 16 B, I think it's time these people let it go. California is NOT in ANY position to do this. Japan and Europe had their sh*t together decades ago. These people should've planed it then.
PrntRhd
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There is much more to the massive funding than just the rail project itself.
Including the TransBay Transit Center project as the northern High Speed Rail terminus which has been funded and is under construction:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa ··· elopment
Which includes a 61 story (down from 80) office tower.
I don't know how this all will be funded.
banner
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Agree with the environmentalists concerned about the the environmental impact between Fresno and that other place. Air can't get any filthier.

Eleven endangered species, including the San Joaquin kit fox, would be affected, according to federal biologists. Massive emissions from diesel-powered heavy equipment could foul the already filthy air. Dozens of rivers, canals and wetlands fed from the rugged peaks of the Sierra Nevada would be crossed, creating other knotty issues.

»www.latimes.com/news/loc ··· y?page=1