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Brano
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USG series FW 3.00 Comparison

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I needed to do this for some other project. ...maybe somebody will find it useful

lorennerol
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Very helpful. Thank you!


Kirby Smith

join:2001-01-26
Derry, NH
reply to Brano

Thanks

kirby



mozerd
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reply to Brano

Nice comparison chart --- would be very helpful if you can add a column specifying the CPU/speed being utilized.



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CPU type and speed is not available in official documentation.
But if folks here can supply that info for various models I can add it.

Also whether a unit has FAN or not might be of interest to someone.

What I know:
USG 50: CPU CN50xx, no fans
USG 200: CPU MPC8343e, no fans

The CPU info can be obtained from CLI> psm atsh



mozerd
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said by Brano:

What I know:
USG 50: CPU CN50xx, no fans
USG 200: CPU MPC8343e, no fans

The CPU info can be obtained from CLI> psm atsh

Info I can provide

For USG 100: CPU MPC8343e, no fans

Maybe Anav can get ZyXEL to provide Processor Speed for each model --- its ridiculas that info is not readily and publically available.

Apparently the MPC8343e has clock speeds scaling to 400 MHz so we need to know how ZyXELL configured the CPU speed -- and this applies to all models.
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Brano
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Additional info from here »Does USG 100 and 200 use the same Freescale 8343 400MHz CPU?

Summary:
USG 20W: CPU CN50xx, one fan
USG 50: CPU CN50xx, no fans, ?
USG 100: CPU MPC8343e, no fans, 266MHz (unconfirmed)
USG 200: CPU MPC8343e, no fans, 400MHz (chip MPC8343EVRAGDB = 400MHz)
USG 300: CPU MPC8347e, fan(s) yes, ?

Freescale MPC8343e part numbers and speeds table »www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/sit···ch=false



Anav
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reply to Brano

The three 00 definitely has fans LOL



Gork
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Bountiful, UT
reply to Brano

USG 20W: CPU CN50xx, one fan



mozerd
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I would also suggest that a column be added for the Number of Users each model is optimised for.

USG 100: 25 users
USG 200: 50 users
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claykin

join:2003-08-22
Fort Lauderdale, FL
reply to Brano

My USG50 with 3.00BDS2 cannot push more than 90Mb/s through Firewall over wired LAN (LAN2 -> LAN1) or visa versa. When I connect same 2 devices to same LAN, throughput increases dramatically.

I have BWM turned off. CPU does not climb above 42% while transferring a single large file, so the USG50 doesn't appear to be overworked. I think I'm missing something... Any ideas?

I probably should have posted this in its own thread...



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Can't comment really (ask ZyXEL) but here's what I've heard from ZyXel in various threads.
1) The advertised speeds are both ways, one way speed would be half of that number.
2) The fine print for SPI test from the datasheet says

quote:
Testing Methodologies: Maximum performance based on RFC 2544 (UDP packets, 1,518 bytes).


claykin

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So, in other words......your mileage may vary.

said by Brano:

Can't comment really (ask ZyXEL) but here's what I've heard from ZyXel in various threads.
1) The advertised speeds are both ways, one way speed would be half of that number.
2) The fine print for SPI test from the datasheet says

quote:
Testing Methodologies: Maximum performance based on RFC 2544 (UDP packets, 1,518 bytes).


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I don't think we have block diagrams for all modes of the USG. It is plausible that if two ports are assigned to LAN1, the router functions mostly stay out of the way for traffic between them, and much of IPTables' functionality is not used.

I imagine that if the three LAN and one DMZ port were all reassigned to LAN1, the LAN side of the router would act as a somewhat managed switch.

kirby



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2 recommendations

Can't edit the first post, so here's updated table
- added Device High Availability info
- Front Panel info (from manual)





mozerd
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reply to Brano

For the USG 300

max number of users: 75



mozerd
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Just got an update from ZyXEL which defines the number of users for each of the named models shown --- and some update throughput specs.


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said by mozerd:

Just got an update from ZyXEL which defines the number of users for each of the named models shown --- and some update throughput specs.


Excellent Info - Thanks!

Since the USG20 is not mentioned here what would the "Business Size" be? One or two users perhaps? Most locations that we presently use the older 2+ have only two (2) users. If so, it would appear to be the logical upgrade for those locals (especially since we're on fumes and need to pinch pennies.)

Can we also assume that the CPU for the USG20 & USG20W are the same? Are they basically the same device other than the added WiFi?

Thanks again for such invaluable info!


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USG20(W) should be more than sufficient replacement for 2+.



KahunaNui

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Thanks Brano!



KahunaNui

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said by Brano:

USG20(W) should be more than sufficient replacement for 2+.


We can hope and pray that these are as stable as these 2+s have been for so many years. Was reading some reviews on NE that claimed it started out great and then stability deteriorated.

However, whenever we read reviews we take into consideration the source (we don't know them) and their knowledge level. Also the FW can make a huge difference.

But never used one with a fan in it that I can recall. I'm a bit nervous about that.


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USG 50 has no fan. Better CPU and not much price difference.