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ErikRP

join:2004-11-06
Winnipeg, MB
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reply to XT0RT

Re: One big sick joke

said by XT0RT:

said by fender:

said by MemphisPCGuy:

irregardless

Pet peeve... The word is regardless. There is no such thing as 'irregardless'.

Believe it or not, the word still exists in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. It's not a common use word, but the 'no such thing' clause is false. /off-topic

Agreed - the word "exists" but where it is found in the dictionary it is more to note that its usage is technically incorrect. It's almost impossible to use it correctly.

In the case of MemphisPCGuy's comment, "As in, does it happen irregardless if you are playing for money or playing for fun?" it should be "regardless", since he's wondering if the disconnects happen either time, no matter what (regardless).

Since the "ir" in irregardless would make the word to mean "not regardless", it's almost impossible to have a situation where the word would ever make sense. Go ahead, try it. I think you'll find it quite a challenge.

/getting seriously off-topic

Lesaonar

join:2000-07-25
Victoria, BC
reply to XT0RT
said by XT0RT:

Not in BC. 19 is the legal adult age.

The age you become an adult is national, not provincial, and is 18yrs of age. The age of majority is the age you can vote and join the military, which is 18.

ilianame

join:2002-06-05
Burnaby, BC
kudos:2
Whatever yall just jelly the guy is making big bucks by pwning n00bz.

ravenchilde_t

join:2012-05-03
said by :

@ravenchilde By any chance do you know the log in username and PW to log into the Cisco? I tried the username and pass stickered to the side but they do not work.

No, I don't know. It also won't work if you are in bridged mode. Are you in bridged mode?

Anon
yes im in bridged mode

ravenchilde

join:2011-04-01
kudos:2
said by [user= :

]yes im in bridged mode

Then you can't access the unit. You'll want to investigate your router DHCP lease times, and try bypassing it if problems persist.

kevinds
Premium
join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:3
Reviews:
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Have you tried, connecting your XBox directly to the modem, getting an external IP on your XBox?

And yes, if your Live connection drops, your game will drop too, all of the games, require a Live Gold connection to play.
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XT0RT
S3x, Drugs, War

join:2001-07-28
Edmonton, AB

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reply to Lesaonar
said by Lesaonar:

said by XT0RT:

Not in BC. 19 is the legal adult age.

The age you become an adult is national, not provincial, and is 18yrs of age. The age of majority is the age you can vote and join the military, which is 18.

The Federal Government doesn't set the rules on drivers' licenses, Provincial elections, and purchases of vices such as alcohol and tobacco products. You're partially right, but as long as he is in BC, he's subject to the Province's Age of Majority act. Remember how legal statutes work - Provincial before Federal. Even the RCMP has to operate in that fashion.
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ravenchilde

join:2011-04-01
kudos:2
rat-hole alert

Flamesfan

join:2011-03-28
Can you play online games without an XBL Gold account? You need to the connection to XBL to play games online. But you are correct though. The 2 services are fine. It's probably your Xbox or your router. The node split will only affect the bandwidth in your area, if you are getting 60Mb p/s then it's not a saturation problem (Some people on here pray for 60 Mb p/s).

Have you tried gaming when directly to the modem? Have you replaced your network cable? Have you borrowed a friends Xbox and tried it at your house? Have you tried your xbox at a friends house? How long is the cable between your router/modem and your xbox?

Have you talked to ShawSean yet?

Edit: missed the second page, removed questions


swintec
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join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME
kudos:5
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Only one other person mentioned it I think, but why not plug your XBox directly into the modem and play for awhile to see how that works? It doesnt get more straight forward than that.
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Chuckcar OTT

@teksavvy.com
Sounds to me like you'll need to amp up your tournament skills. Paying for 100 meg and getting 60 sounds good to someone like me from Ontario where just getting one-tenth that speed at twice the price with much lower caps is the norm.

Cornat

join:2011-10-17
Kelowna, BC
Forgive me if this info has been mentioned, I skimmed everything quickly.

1. Does the modem go offline when your connection drops? Notice any lights change on the modem?
2. Tried direct to the modem to rule out the router?
3. Notice any connection drops on anything other than your XBOX? Run a continuous ping from a PC?
4. If said modem is dropping offline, and levels are fine, and the techs haven't noticed an issue with your neighbours after numerous service calls, bypass the powerbar. I've seen powerbars cause modems to flap.

Edit: Just noticed OP hasn't been here in over a week, w/e, I'll leave this here just in case.


Oilersfan74

@shawcable.net
The problem is those gateway modems, ea servers have had problems with routers for years. until recently i would plug in directly to the older style Shaw modem and never had any problems, I hosted the games most of the time and rarely had any lag and never discconnected. when I switched from broadband25 to 50 I needed this new gateway which has been nothing but problems, like I used to get if I plugged into a router instead of straight into the modem


Rivalman
Rival

join:2004-01-18
Hmm, I'm going to suggest something that may not seem like a good idea at first, but try it.

Get rid of that power amp on the modem connection.
Use it as a splitter for all your tv connections, but for whichever wire connects to your modem don't use the power amp.

From what I know, these modems don't like those amplifier circuts as the modem is looking for a certain level of signal. Bascially your cable signal is screaming at your modem, this can cause it to flap.

Try it and see what happens,
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Flamesfan

join:2011-03-28
Except you don't know if his modem needs that amp or not... Arbitrarily deciding that a piece of equipment needs to be removed without knowing any factual information is a pretty ignorant suggestion.

I think it's safe to say with the rework of his household wiring, at least one of the techs have verified the signal quality.

We need to troubleshoot the devices on his connection at this point.


swintec
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join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME
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I've always known it to be bad form to put modems on amps. A two way splitter with the drop from the street going into it and then one leg to the modem and the other leg into the amp for TVs is the better setup. Any noise on the line at all gets...well, amplified which modems can not stand. Maybe noise recently got on the line in the neighborhood? If signal levels off the street straight to the modem are no good, then a bigger problem is happening.
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kevinds
Premium
join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:3
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reply to Rivalman
If the signal levels are good where they are, with an amp,

The amp is required. Usual amp is 12 to 21db increase.

Dropping 17db of signal, will definately not be good for a modem, that needs it.

Putting an amp in to boost the signal, then attenuating the signal to reduce it to good levels for the modem, is not good.

An amp can be bad for a modem, it can also be good, if it is needed.
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swintec
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join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME
kudos:5
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said by kevinds:

If the signal levels are good where they are, with an amp,

The amp is required. Usual amp is 12 to 21db increase.

Dropping 17db of signal, will definately not be good for a modem, that needs it.

Putting an amp in to boost the signal, then attenuating the signal to reduce it to good levels for the modem, is not good.

An amp can be bad for a modem, it can also be good, if it is needed.

A drop coming into the house and having signal split once should be more than fine for a modem to work, if it isnt, there is a problem outside of the house. Possibly just needs to have that segment rebalanced or maybe it is worse who knows. You never know when noise is going to get on the line and an amp will make it far worse.
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Rivalman
Rival

join:2004-01-18
Yes, just like swintec said, a straight connection from the pole to one splitter should be fine for the modem, otherwise there might be an issue outside.
An amp is a "duct-tape" solution, it really isn't a great fix. Any issues with the line will be amplified by the amp and right into the modem.

I'm just suggesting to try it without the amp involved and see if that fixes the issue. If not, then there is a good chance the issue is outside the house.

There are some amps that work with modems, and Shaw does use them, but the techs will tell you that in a perfect world the modem shouldn't be behind the amp.

Just try it without the amp, then you'll know,
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kevinds
Premium
join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
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Reviews:
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I'm not disagreeing that amps are a band-aid solution, often they are.

If your drop is 'just before' the next line amp, you will be on the longer length of wire, and the signal may be too low without the amp.

If the levels are good, with the amp, lets say Rx 0.0 Tx 45, removing a +17db amp, would put your signal around -17 Tx 60 (different amps boost the return differently than others, some more some less), the signal will be very poor.

If his levels are Rx +9, removing a +17 amp wouldn't be nearly as bad, if we knew what the good signal levels are currently, then could be decided if removing it would be a good idea.

My drop currently, has the opposite problem, de-mark location has a signal of Rx +29. I have two attenuators before the first 4-way splitter, -10 and -6. If I was to bypass, and plug into the de-mark, I would have very poor signal - not weak, but poor.

Amps can not be removed, just because they are there, without figuring out why they are there in the first place, and being able to determine if they are actually needed.

If you want to try removing the amp, I suggest calling tech support, checking levels, removing the amp, and checking levels again (removing the amp, does not just mean unplugging it's power). Because there was more work done with the wiring, after it was installed. Also check the line for attenuators after the amp to the modem, and remove them at the same time.
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Flamesfan

join:2011-03-28
So I just want to recap this entire situation.

We have a modem that is online, while xbox live is dropping its network connection. We don't know if the modem is dropping or the router. The OP has a new modem, new wiring in his house and multiple calls confirming his signal is ok but fluctuating, and we want to continue troubleshooting the RF signal instead of bypassing his router for an hour?


Rivalman
Rival

join:2004-01-18
Not a router he can bypass, it's the combo unit from Shaw. Unless he goes bridged mode and hooks up a router. Check the original post.
And yes, the amp can make the signal "fine" but can cause flapping as well.
It also looks as though Shaw is not currently able to enable bridge mode in purchased modems, ShawSean, can you confirm or deny this?
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kevinds
Premium
join:2003-05-01
Calgary, AB
kudos:3
Reviews:
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The OP said it was in bridge mode.

And yes, I suggested plugging the XBox into the modem to get an external Shaw address, removing any/all NAT.

That was early on page 2, I haven't seen a responce indicating what the result was, so I am still waiting for that.

The unfortunate part of the network settings on the XBox is that unless you are in Test connection, it will not respond to ICMP (ping).
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