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bctrainers

join:2004-08-03
Olathe, KS
reply to FenixSucks

Re: Qwest CenturyLink YouTube Service failure under deliver

Alright, this issue is not on the ISP end. The youtube flash player and HTML5 player have some sort of absolutely weird bandwidth limiter on the youtube.com website.

Pulling the raw MP4 file from the youtube CDN (which is the exact same location where your flash video is loading from on youtube.com) shows absolutely no speed decreases. I get maximum speed downloading the 1080 MP4 media. My DSL speed is 10mbps down, and on the video mp4's, I get near 10mbps or smack dab on the spot 10mbps.
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--bc

ArizonaSteve

join:2004-01-31
Apache Junction, AZ
There's no bandwidth limiter on the youtube website, why would there be, that's just silly. I can play videos in HD with no problems. You guys are just being paranoid.


mooch
No Booing Allowed

join:2001-11-11
Dublin, OH
Reviews:
·Embarq Now Centu..
All I know is that I can take my laptop to several friends place who have no more bandwidth than me (who don't have Centurylink) and they have no issues with buffering.

That same laptop used on my Centurylink 6 meg connection and I'm annoyed by buffering.

Sooo, same laptop having two different results...
- Laptop with Centurylink will choke when streaming Youtube
- Laptop with another ISP with same or less bandwidth the laptop streams Youtube fine.

How much more clear cut can it be that Centurylink is either doing something shady or just downright flaky and unreliable. And forget about streaming anything in the evening with Centurylink as my bandwidth in the evening is ridiculously lousy.
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ex Hughesnet customer - thank goodness!


mooch
No Booing Allowed

join:2001-11-11
Dublin, OH
Reviews:
·Embarq Now Centu..
Oh furthmore, to prove some thing is fishy with Centurylink...When streaming youtube will result in buffering, I can then go ahead and download the youtube vid instead and bitmeter shows the download blazing along at 5-6 meg. There's no way a vid should buffer when 5-6 meg of bandwidth is available.

From my experience...Centurylink and FLAKY DSL service are synonymous.
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ex Hughesnet customer - thank goodness!


mooch
No Booing Allowed

join:2001-11-11
Dublin, OH
Reviews:
·Embarq Now Centu..
Arizona Steve, I'm glad Centurylink is working well for you. For the first two months I had the service, I didn't have any issues either. Happy as a clam, I was!

That's no longer the case, the service is awful and tech support has been useless and total waste of time.

I truly hope your connection continues to treat you well, but in the meantime, don't try to convince me that the lousy service Centurylink is now providing me is a figment of my imagination.
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ex-Hughesnet customer. Now I have Centurylink who's inconsistent service is just as frustrating.


bctrainers

join:2004-08-03
Olathe, KS
reply to ArizonaSteve
said by ArizonaSteve:

There's no bandwidth limiter on the youtube website, why would there be, that's just silly. I can play videos in HD with no problems. You guys are just being paranoid.

No, I'm not being paranoid.

All I am saying is that this issue isn't on the ISP end, it's more so on YouTube's end. When you load a video of any quality, it will always download it in bursts. Well, that's how it has always been for me via WiMax @ Sprint, CenturyLink, Comcast, and SuddenLink. )
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--bc


mooch
No Booing Allowed

join:2001-11-11
Dublin, OH
Reviews:
·Embarq Now Centu..
said by bctrainers:

said by ArizonaSteve:

There's no bandwidth limiter on the youtube website, why would there be, that's just silly. I can play videos in HD with no problems. You guys are just being paranoid.

No, I'm not being paranoid.

All I am saying is that this issue isn't on the ISP end, it's more so on YouTube's end. When you load a video of any quality, it will always download it in bursts. Well, that's how it has always been for me via WiMax @ Sprint, CenturyLink, Comcast, and SuddenLink. )

As mentioned above, I have no issues with my laptop when streaming youtube via ATT or Verizon DSL. Only with Centurylink does streaming choke on the laptop, how is that you can say it's not related to Centurylink?
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ex-Hughesnet customer. Now I have Centurylink who's inconsistent service is just as frustrating.


xsbell

join:2008-12-22
Canada
kudos:8
Reviews:
·Primus Telecommu..
reply to bctrainers
said by bctrainers:

All I am saying is that this issue isn't on the ISP end, it's more so on YouTube's end. When you load a video of any quality, it will always download it in bursts. Well, that's how it has always been for me via WiMax @ Sprint, CenturyLink, Comcast, and SuddenLink. )

It probably is CL's problem, like not having enough, or having too many congested cache servers. They need to ask Google to send them more.

You can try changing your DNS server to hopefully avoid CL's youtube cache servers.

ArizonaSteve

join:2004-01-31
Apache Junction, AZ

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reply to mooch
It's obvious you have a problem but it's just with you connection as you proved by playing videos at a friends house. I don't think they are doing anything to it so it's probably just your connection that's flaky and unreliable.

ArizonaSteve

join:2004-01-31
Apache Junction, AZ
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·CenturyLink

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reply to mooch
Well I couldn't play videos either when I first had 1.5Mb service, it was just too slow and flaky, but after upgrading to 20Mb everything works fine. I highly recommend the 20Mb or even 40Mb service if you can get it. I hope everyone doesn't jump on it and cause it to get congested though, like Virgin Mobile wireless did after it first came out. It worked good the first month then slowed down so much that it wouldn't even open a webpage running at 17kb. so now I'm stuck with an $80 USB dongle that I can't use for anything.

ArizonaSteve

join:2004-01-31
Apache Junction, AZ
Reviews:
·voip.ms
·CenturyLink
reply to bctrainers
It does download in bursts but that seems to be related more to the Flash player than anything else. The player determines how much data is downloaded and kept in a small buffer so it can keep ahead of the video that's playing so it won't run out of data and stop to buffer. That's quite a different process that just downloading the file to play it off line.