dslreports logo
 
    All Forums Hot Topics Gallery
spc

spacer




how-to block ads


Search Topic:
uniqs
54219
share rss forum feed


dirtyjeffer
Anons on ignore, but not due to fear.
Premium
join:2002-02-21
London, ON
reply to vue666

Re: Hard Drive Deals

said by vue666:

EVGA GeForce GT 640 4GB DDR3 - $105 at Futureshop

»www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/ ··· ce2den02

weird...my 896MB GTX 260 is massive compared to that thing...that card kind of looks like a low end card, but i guess with 4 GB of RAM on it...my card barely, and i mean barely, fit in my tower.
--
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

- George Orwell


franklyong
Cisco Geek

join:2004-12-05
Canada
kudos:1
Reviews:
·WIND Mobile
Well I have a 1GB GT640, and the RAM just seems like a gimmick. Like it probably won't take advantage of all that memory before the GPU Core bottlenecks it.
It is approximately the same performance as my 9600GT I have.

In comparison the GTX560 is a much better card and only has 1GB :P.
--
Residence: WRT400N DD-WRT - pfSense P4 2.8GHZ, 1.5GB RAM
Home: Teksavvy Extreme Cable 28/1
WNDR3700 + RT-N13 DD-WRT


Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
The GT640 is a low-end card. Even today the GTX260 is not.

alexpb1

join:2005-06-23
Barrie, ON
reply to elwoodblues
In case anyone is interested, Memory Express has a one-day only deal on those 4TB Seagate Backup USB 3.0 external drives.

$139.99 + $4.99 shipping.
»www.memoryexpress.com/Products/M ··· /MX43639


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to elwoodblues
If memory serves, the Intel iGPU in Ivy Bridge processors is slightly faster than A GeForce 630. That might give you an idea about how low-end a 640 is, not that model numbers are directly related to performance.

Intel's next GPU, in Haswell, should be at least three times faster; it has 250% the execution units, an updated architecture, and up to 128MB of onboard VRAM. Yeah, they're starting to actually put video RAM on CPUs.

At this point, Intel has already rendered the ultra-low-end of the discrete graphics card market irrelevant (why buy a 610 when your iGPU will be substantially more powerful?), and the next generation is going to kick that up a notch... They've been so far behind that they're improving at a much faster pace than nVidia or AMD as they catch up.

This development in GPU power is particularly of note for "retina" displays, since the number one factor holding back performance in high-resolution notebooks is the graphics chip.
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org


urbanriot
Premium
join:2004-10-18
Canada
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Cogeco Cable
reply to alexpb1
said by alexpb1:

In case anyone is interested, Memory Express has a one-day only deal on those 4TB Seagate Backup USB 3.0 external drives.

$139.99 + $4.99 shipping.
»www.memoryexpress.com/Products/M ··· /MX43639

That's the best so far! I'm very excited that 4TB drives have finally come to the price they should have been about a year ago! So excited I used two exclamations in my previous two sentences.

alexpb1

join:2005-06-23
Barrie, ON
said by urbanriot:

said by alexpb1:

In case anyone is interested, Memory Express has a one-day only deal on those 4TB Seagate Backup USB 3.0 external drives.

$139.99 + $4.99 shipping.
»www.memoryexpress.com/Products/M ··· /MX43639

That's the best so far! I'm very excited that 4TB drives have finally come to the price they should have been about a year ago! So excited I used two exclamations in my previous two sentences.

Yeah, I am hoping this $140-$150 starts becoming the norm.
Western Digital is to release their new 5TB Red/Green models by the end of this year, so hopefully it helps drive the price of 3/4TB drives down even further.


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to elwoodblues
WD still hasn't released their 4TB red/green drives


HiVolt
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:22
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
said by Guspaz:

WD still hasn't released their 4TB red/green drives

Yep, I'm looking for 4TB REDs to upgrade one of my NAS boxes...

the 8x3TB RED NAS is working great... quick, quiet and very little energy usage... Idles around 55W, in use around 62W. Compared to my old server which idled around 200W and 250W read/write its quite an improvement.
--
F**K THE NHL. Go Blue Jays 2013!!!

alexpb1

join:2005-06-23
Barrie, ON
reply to elwoodblues
Even better deal:
NCIX just matched the $139.99 price.
They are also offering free shipping too.
Apparently if you already ordered from ME you can contact them and price match the free shipping offer from NCIX and be refunded the difference.

»www.ncix.com/products/?sku=78093 ··· oid=1293


elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
Premium
join:2006-08-30
Somewhere in
kudos:2
reply to alexpb1
I though they hit the wall on the current tech with 4tb?


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to elwoodblues
They top out at about 1 terabit per square inch with PMR, theoretically, after that they move to HAMR, which has been demonstrated already at 1 terabit per square inch. So that's around where the transition point is. Current 1TB/platter drives are somewhere between 566-625 Gbit/sqin depending on the surface area of the platter.

Traditionally, we can fit up to 5 platters in a standard 3.5" drive, meaning current areal densities can support 5TB drives. HGST, however, announced that their new Helium-filled drives will sport 7 platters, which would mean 7TB drives. Once we max out the current-generation technology (perpendicular), it seems like we'll be somewhere around 11-12TB before the current recording technology is maximized. I don't expect them to go that far, though, because there will come a point where it will be REALLY hard to maximize the current technology, and increasingly easier to just jump to HAMR.
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

alexpb1

join:2005-06-23
Barrie, ON
reply to elwoodblues
1.25 TB platters are under development according to some articles I've read. People are speculating whether WD's 5TB drives will be 5x 1TB platters or 4x 1.25 TB.


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to elwoodblues
1.25TB per platter would still be under the 1 terabit per square inch limit, so it's not surprising. Combined with HGST's 7 platter drives...
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

DeViLzzz

join:2004-07-29
Sarnia, ON

1 recommendation

reply to elwoodblues
Hey Western Digital it has been quite awhile now since the flooding that caused you to raise prices. Please return prices to something close to the pre-flood prices ... now !


Styvas
Go Canucks Go
Premium
join:2004-09-15
Hamilton, ON
reply to elwoodblues
Click for full size
Just saw this one at Costco. Seems like a decent price for 3TB.


vue666
Small block Chevies rule
Premium
join:2007-12-07
Halifax, NS
kudos:2
Nice find... my only issue would be it's "Seagate"....


Styvas
Go Canucks Go
Premium
join:2004-09-15
Hamilton, ON
I'm running two similar Seagates right now without problems, but they don't get heavy use, admittedly. The only drive I've had literally fail was a Western Digital quite a while ago.

IamGimli

join:2004-02-28
Canada
kudos:2
reply to Styvas
said by Styvas:

Just saw this one at Costco. Seems like a decent price for 3TB.

That's a clearance price (note the asterisk and the .97 price). If you're thinking about it, don't wait too long as they're on their last pallet of that product.

IamGimli

join:2004-02-28
Canada
kudos:2
reply to dirtyjeffer
said by dirtyjeffer:

weird...my 896MB GTX 260 is massive compared to that thing...that card kind of looks like a low end card, but i guess with 4 GB of RAM on it...my card barely, and i mean barely, fit in my tower.

It may be 4GB but it's DDR3, not GDDR5 like other graphics card. This seems to be more angled at a market that doesn't required high performance but a lot of video memory, probably some sort of CAD software or still picture editing.


Styvas
Go Canucks Go
Premium
join:2004-09-15
Hamilton, ON
reply to IamGimli
Good eye! Unfortunately, I don't actually need one, and don't have a spare hundred lying around to buy it and save it for later.


Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
That's a real good price, I'm tempted to drive up to St. Cats and pick up two.

alexpb1

join:2005-06-23
Barrie, ON
reply to elwoodblues
I have a Seagate Backup Plus 3TB that gets lots of use. It's an excellent drive! Doesn't get anywhere near as warm as my 3TB Seagate Expansion.


urbanriot
Premium
join:2004-10-18
Canada
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Cogeco Cable
reply to Gone
said by Gone:

That's a real good price, I'm tempted to drive up to St. Cats and pick up two.

Yea, now might be a good time if the exchange rate heads up... I saw 4TB for $129 and I thought that was a good deal too.


Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:4
Yeah, I was up at Costco on Sunday and I usually take a look at all that stuff but decided to beeline to what I needed and got out quickly instead.


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to elwoodblues
Buddy pointed out that BestBuy is selling 4TB Hitachi 5400RPM drives for $150 ($170 with $20 recycle rebate). I was tempted, since I need seven and only want the 5400RPM (NOT the 7200RPM), but they're a discontinued drive, so building a RAID array out of a disk you know will be impossible to replace individually isn't a great idea, even if ZFS is supposed to be fine with non-matching drives.
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org


elwoodblues
Elwood Blues
Premium
join:2006-08-30
Somewhere in
kudos:2
Why 5400 and not 7200?


urbanriot
Premium
join:2004-10-18
Canada
kudos:3
A lot of us have 5400 ~ 5900 RPM 'green' drives in our servers, mainly for cost or energy reasons (or both).

NefCanuck

join:2007-06-26
Mississauga, ON
Reviews:
·voip.ms
said by urbanriot:

A lot of us have 5400 ~ 5900 RPM 'green' drives in our servers, mainly for cost or energy reasons (or both).

Don't forget noise concerns too...

5400RPM drives are usually much quieter and as I use my computer room as a broadcasting studio any extra noises picked up by the mic are unwanted

NefCanuck


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to elwoodblues
It's a mass storage file server with a big fat RAID array with a ton of RAM (24GB) and multiple SSD caches (one for ZIL, one for L2ARC), so there isn't any performance improvement from 7200RPM (might have slightly higher IOPS if the SSD caches don't get it, but the GigE port is the bottleneck). As a result, all that 7200RPM gets me is more noise and more power without any benefit.

I live in a 366 sqft one-room apartment, with that server maybe 15 feet from my bed with nothing in between to block the noise. So how loud the drives are is pretty important to me.

EDIT: I'm not sure 7200RPM drives actually have any real use anymore. SSDs have come way down in cost (Crucial has a 960GB model for $600 MSRP now), and 5400 RPM is better suited for mass storage (you don't care about performance if you're using HDDs instead of SSDs)
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org